Should Ice Climbers be banned?

[ADHD]

Seems like if you get grabbed your done for

 

[Sabrewulf238]

How? It's not like they can do that much damage when one grabs you, and besides I think every character has thier strengths and weaknesses so it all balances out.

Plus they wern't banned in melee why should they be banned in brawl?

 

[Tristan_win]

How? It's not like they can do that much damage when one grabs you, and besides I think every character has thier strengths and weaknesses so it all balances out.

Plus they wern't banned in melee why should they be banned in brawl?

Because one grab can and has mean a instant kill with the Ice Climbers ever since the later years in Melee and with the removal of L canceling and general safe approaches plus with the shield grabbing game buff Ice Climbers are a extremely deadly character to try to attack.

Also Ice Climbers them selves weren't banned from any real tournaments but a lot areas did banned wobbling and now with muti ways to do grab infinites we will either have to banned every single infinite grab combo or set some sort of limiter, again.

Overall though something as huge as this isn’t decided by us the “unproven” but by the backroom.

 

[Ørion]

I agree with Tristan win that this will be decided by the backroom, but I hope they don't ban the ice climbers.. I think that it is unfair to ban any character. You could easily say that in melee, fox, falco, shiek, and marth were all better and they should all have been banned. Imo, if you dont like it, then play as them lol.

 

[Tofu Beast]

the backroom scares me...

 

[Bowser King]

I really dont thin they will be even if there grabs are really good.

 

[6footninja]

the backroom scares me...

I gotta say, that was creative .

On topic: If you're going to ban Ice Climbers, then theres a few other characters we could consider, hm? Dededes' chain grabs? No? See, its not as powerful, but lays out a sick combo if a good player gets you with Dededes grab. And its near impossible to escape if you're using mewium-heavy weight "land" combat characters.

Yes it's ridiculous, but I put it in the same aisle as this.

 

[Spire]

Ice Climbers are still my top "Wtf" character(s) -- over G&W and R.O.B. I've never been too happy with their inclusion. Oh well, diversity wins.

 

[Rebel581]

IC have a much better grab range than DDD from what I've seen.

 

[MidniteBlaze]

I'm not expert, but I believe the Climbers have always been a unique character to use and requires quite some skill to use really well. I see no point to ban them. There are an advanced char, plus if you kill the partner, there goes climbers means of recovery.

 

[Gamer_Mason]

I don't think any character should be banned. just the infinites that raise the question XD

 

[Yuna]

I doubt the ICs themselves will be banned unless their infinites and broken combos prove way too hard, time-consuming and just extensive to ban (like if he'd have to literally ban 75 different things). We'll most likely just see a ban of the techniques since from what we know so far (last time I checked), they literally shut down every single other character in the game except ICs (meaning, if you don't want to lose, you'll have to go ICs).

When a character does that, we usually ban them, or in Smash's case, the techniques (since the ICs aren't incredibly overpowered overall, it's just these specific chaingrabs).

 

[Cero]

ugh...ICs + shield buffs = FTW!!!
sure it takes enormous amounts of practice...and the timing's different for each character
but once people start to get really good with it (like frame perfect and able to pull it out of their *** consistently) then's the time we might see potential bans
oh well-only the backroom can decide eventually

 

[EternalCrusade]

Theres no reason for Ice Climbers to be banned, but if those chain grabs DO end up becoming a big enough problem, then that will be banned to a certain point.

 

[kamekasu]

Compare it to Akuma in Super Turbo. He was so outrageously overpowered that he's been banned from all ST tournaments. I don't think the situation will become so dire in Brawl, but I also think it's unfair to ban legitimate tactics. I thought it was stupid of any tournament to ban Wobbling in the first place.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Grimer belongs to the Backroom- NOT smash backroom.

 

[JNS]

you know how many people can actually pull off the IC infinites? i doubt more than a few and anyways they have a ton of other weaknesses that can be exploited

If fox didn't get banned in melee the IC's wont

 

[Yuna]

you know how many people can actually pull off the IC infinites? i doubt more than a few and anyways they have a ton of other weaknesses that can be exploited

If fox didn't get banned in melee the IC's wont

1) Doesn't matter how many people can do. If they can do it, it's bad enough.
2) Fox couldn't kill you anywhere on the stage from a single hit. The ICs only need one single grab. Fox had to shinespike you outside of the stage.

 

[Twin Dreams]

Actually, it's possible to live from shine spikes.


The risk/reward for the IC's instant kill on anyone is that of a grab.


Risk = A missed grab that has a split second of them being wide open. You may get a hit or two, maybe a combo.

Reward = Instant death on the person grabbed.

 

[Psychoace]

I think some people will ban it and others won't end of story, in my opinion.

 

[Twin Dreams]

People who don't ban it --- Expect me. I would like the instant wins.

 

[Mic_128]

There is no discussion at all to ban any character in the SBR and rightly so. Learn to adapt. If IC's start winning lots of tournaments because of chain grabs, then it'll be looked at.

 

[uremog]

never think something's so hard to pull off that only a few people will do it. if anyone can do it and it's a winning move, everyone will start doing it.

 

[Resident_Smash_Genius]

I sincerely doubt that everyone will pick up IC soley because of the instant kill grabs. BTW, there are ways of getting around the chain grabs. The person chaining has to be ready for escape attempts. The only thing that makes it easier than before is the pivot grab. The increased range increment makes it easier to start the chain.

Also, most people I know still can't desync properly/consistantly and the learning curve is incredably steep.

 

[JawaJedi]

I think that it wouldn't be fair to Ice Climber mains that didn't use the chaingrabs if they did get banned because SOME people do. I think it would make more sense just to ban to chaingrab itself.

 

[6footninja]

you know how many people can actually pull off the IC infinites? i doubt more than a few and anyways they have a ton of other weaknesses that can be exploited

If fox didn't get banned in melee the IC's wont

If people are playing competitively for the $$$. I think they would practice it until they can pull it off at any moment possible.

 

[Ninjack]

you don't really back up you're argument that well do you? ^_^