Social Skyworld Hub - "Soaring through the Skys"

[EnGarde]

Odd... I'm not finding the thread you made... Do you remember the title of the thread?

Here is the original link to it. It was originally listed in the Pit Directory thread, and was always in the Pit sub-forum (not Dark Pit). The original title of the thread was Master at Arms: Pit and Dark Pit's Side Specials (something like that lol). http://smashboards.com/threads/master-at-arms-pit-and-dark-pits-side-specials.400020/

 

[Sensane]

A new thread for Dark Pit is kinda wierd, but then again lucina has her own thread, so I guess there's that.

 

[CHOMPY]

It's so that we have somewhere else to move them. Not as a primary place to look up for the Dark Pit/Pit information.

By the way, I got the head mod was able to retrieve back the information for you EnGarde

 

[TMNTSSB4]

DIRECT HYPE

 

[LancerStaff]

I was going to say the hype was dead after Sticker Star 2 was announced, but playable Copen in Gunvolt 2 made up for it. Also didn't expect it to be coming this summer.

 

[Mr. ShinyUmbreon]

YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS! Azure Striker Gunvolt is getting a sequel! I loved that game, I recommend it to anyone who enjoyed MMX games or just 2d games in general. It's like Megaman X, but it's not. The story is okay, I guess(But who honestly plays Mega Man games for the story anyway?).

 

[Koiba]

Everyone is super hyped about all the Gunvlot and Starfox



While I'm just here wondering why people think that making one of the most favorite copy abilities that hasn't made an appearance since Squeak Squad(?) an amiibo exclusive is a good idea


Robo Kirby looks cool though

 

[LancerStaff]

YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS! Azure Striker Gunvolt is getting a sequel! I loved that game, I recommend it to anyone who enjoyed MMX games or just 2d games in general. It's like Megaman X, but it's not. The story is okay, I guess(But who honestly plays Mega Man games for the story anyway?).

Gunvolt 2 was already a thing, lol. I'd show you the initial reveal but the Gunvolt site crashed.

Everyone is super hyped about all the Gunvlot and Starfox

While I'm just here wondering why people think that making one of the most favorite copy abilities that hasn't made an appearance since Squeak Squad(?) an amiibo exclusive is a good idea

Robo Kirby looks cool though

Kirby looks really fun too. Reminds me of Vile's ride armor from Mega Man Maverick Hunter X.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Kirby game yay...and then there's Metroid

 

[LancerStaff]

Hey, there's a proper trailer for ASGV2 from Nintendo.

...Ignore the cheesy voice, lol.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Hey, there's a proper trailer for ASGV2 from Nintendo.

...Ignore the cheesy voice, lol.

The Metroid game has been getting ****ted on

 

[LancerStaff]

From what I can tell people seem fine with MFF now. It's PMCS that everybody hates...

Like, the overworld and stuff looks good. That was the only good thing about PMSS besides the soundtrack. We saw like two seconds of a battle and it looked like another experimental weird thing we don't need.

I'll wait and see, but if it's just generic characters and places again I'm not interested.

 

[Mr. ShinyUmbreon]

Gunvolt 2 was already a thing, lol. I'd show you the initial reveal but the Gunvolt site crashed.

Welp, sh*t. I can't believe I never heard about this...

Copen looks fun as hell though.

 

[CHOMPY]

In your prediction, how many people are actually going to buy the Metroid Prime Federations game?

 

[LancerStaff]

Depends. If it's all multiplayer focused and it's basically forced like Triforce Heroes it's not going to do well. If there's a solid single player campaign, though, it'll probably do decently if Nintendo gets the word out.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

From what I can tell people seem fine with MFF now. It's PMCS that everybody hates...

Like, the overworld and stuff looks good. That was the only good thing about PMSS besides the soundtrack. We saw like two seconds of a battle and it looked like another experimental weird thing we don't need.

I'll wait and see, but if it's just generic characters and places again I'm not interested.

Go to youtube and look at the amount of likes/dislikes

 

[LancerStaff]

Go to youtube and look at the amount of likes/dislikes

The latest trailer they hid the likes and dislikes. Comments are fairly positive so I'm going with that.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

The latest trailer they hid the likes and dislikes. Comments are fairly positive so I'm going with that.

Well before the (dis)like button was disabled, it was loads of dislikes

 

[Sensane]

http://imgur.com/gallery/8FT1H6G

 

[EnGarde]

LOL that img.

I'm a long time fan of the Metroid franchise. When I saw the original trailer for Federation Force my initial instinct was to reject it as a Metroid game, because it didn't look or feel like a Metroid game. Like, the basic components of most of the games in the franchise is that you are playing as the lone bounty hunter Samus Aran exploring a hostile alien planet where things are actively trying to kill you. The worlds are vast, and you must explore and backtrack to find all the upgrades you need to beat the game lol.

But when I see Federation Force, with it's heavy focus on multi-player, and it looks like Samus isn't even playable, I'm like, wait, this is a Metroid game? Even the art style is off compared to the other games. Federation Force has your characters look like Chibi characters, where the original games went more for the eerie look.

It's like they're trying to appeal to a whole new (and younger) player demographic, and playing into a whole new game mold when compared to the previous listings, like Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Zero Mission, or the Metroid Prime Trilogy, which is what has long time fans of the franchise, such as myself, scratching my head at their design choices.

I'll probably get the game because I've been waiting forever for the next Metroid game to come out, but tbh, I'm not really impressed, because this just doesn't look or feel like a Metroid game to me. It feels like a space multiplayer game that they hung Metroid window dressing on. Which I guess is what the creators were trying to address in the Direct, because I know I'm not the only fan upset by the changes lol.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

http://imgur.com/gallery/8FT1H6G

To infinity...AND BEYOND!

 

[LancerStaff]

Before I forget, you still around @Strider_123 ? There's that ASGV sale you wanted.

I was bored and it turns out my play log says I've logged nearly 1000 hours into KIU. ...Uh, not so sure that's right. Mystery's going to have to wait until tomorrow night because I should be asleep right now and I won't be able to get my KIU cart until tomorrow.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Before I forget, you still around @Strider_123 ? There's that ASGV sale you wanted.

I was bored and it turns out my play log says I've logged nearly 1000 hours into KIU. ...Uh, not so sure that's right. Mystery's going to have to wait until tomorrow night because I should be asleep right now and I won't be able to get my KIU cart until tomorrow.

1000...you sure it want 100.0?

 

[ReRaze]

This character is so dumb, I only had a bit of rage but I killed my mates fox 3 times in a row at like 40% with the electroshock. And another time the next game for good measure.

I love it.

 

[Mr. ShinyUmbreon]

This character is so dumb, I only had a bit of rage but I killed my mates fox 3 times in a row at like 40% with the electroshock. And another time the next game for good measure.

I love it.

Why are emos so good at killing early in this game?

 

[momochii]

This character is so dumb, I only had a bit of rage but I killed my mates fox 3 times in a row at like 40% with the electroshock. And another time the next game for good measure.

I love it.

Good Fox is annoying so we just have to be as annoying. ;D

 

[TMNTSSB4]

This character is so dumb, I only had a bit of rage but I killed my mates fox 3 times in a row at like 40% with the electroshock. And another time the next game for good measure.

I love it.

Not you to

 

[LancerStaff]

1000...you sure it want 100.0?

Nope, says 1,000. Maybe it's counting sleep mode? I don't remember my profiles in KIU getting that high...

 

[Dusk Pit]

This character is so dumb, I only had a bit of rage but I killed my mates fox 3 times in a row at like 40% with the electroshock. And another time the next game for good measure.

I love it.

Me too.
It scales nicely with rage and it can condition people to shield more, which is fine if you are (D)Pit. Now if only something comboed into side b...

 

[LancerStaff]

Me too.
It scales nicely with rage and it can condition people to shield more, which is fine if you are (D)Pit. Now if only something comboed into side b...

That's what the Ftilt techchase setup is for.

 

[Dusk Pit]

That's what the Ftilt techchase setup is for.

really? At what %s it works and how does DI and teching affect?
Do tell more.

 

[LancerStaff]

really? At what %s it works and how does DI and teching affect?
Do tell more.

Haven't had a chance to really get into the specifics but IIRC there's a 20% window on Diddy in training.

Dark Pit's Ftilt launches at a low enough angle to where characters with Diddy's gravity or higher need to pick a tech option at percents Electroshock can kill even with optimal DI. Proper spacing lets you catch even a techroll away.

Rage supposedly effects moves with higher BKB more then lower, and since DP Ftilt only has 15 BKB compared to Electroshock's 99 that window should be getting bigger.

 

[Dusk Pit]

Nice, but doesn't ftilt have too much end lag and side b too much start up for this to work?

 

[LancerStaff]

Nice, but doesn't ftilt have too much end lag and side b too much start up for this to work?

Nope. If they're hit and they didn't DI out of it then literally all they can do is guess which way to tech.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Nope, says 1,000. Maybe it's counting sleep mode? I don't remember my profiles in KIU getting that high...

Damn

 

[Koiba]

Haven't had a chance to really get into the specifics but IIRC there's a 20% window on Diddy in training.

Dark Pit's Ftilt launches at a low enough angle to where characters with Diddy's gravity or higher need to pick a tech option at percents Electroshock can kill even with optimal DI. Proper spacing lets you catch even a techroll away.

Rage supposedly effects moves with higher BKB more then lower, and since DP Ftilt only has 15 BKB compared to Electroshock's 99 that window should be getting bigger.

http://www.kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Gravity

Guess if anyone's interested about gravity here ^^^^^^

So technically it will only work on , right?


Of course the percents will differ with each because of the knockback and weight and rage and the other mechanics, but is that the gist?


And I'm also assuming it's the sweetspot?



And anyone wanna play?

 

[ReRaze]

Another confirm into the electroshock is last hit of nair into b reverse side b. Someone on skype told me about it. the last hit of nair also true combos into Dark Pit's arrows (not pit). I'm not sure about the percent ranges for either but he said the timing was reallly tight. He said he only tested on Pit so I can assume on fast fallers it could be another tech chase setup.

Not you to

Dw I still play Pit alot.

And anyone wanna play?

I'd play you but there will probably be too much lag
I wish Australia wasn't so far away from the other countries.

 

[apparently fuz]

Speaking of kill confirms, what are the conditions for the n-air to u-smash setup? I can't seem to get it down properly.

 

[Koiba]

Another confirm into the electroshock is last hit of nair into b reverse side b. Someone on skype told me about it. the last hit of nair also true combos into Dark Pit's arrows (not pit). I'm not sure about the percent ranges for either but he said the timing was reallly tight. He said he only tested on Pit so I can assume on fast fallers it could be another tech chase setup.


Dw I still play Pit alot.


I'd play you but there will probably be too much lag
I wish Australia wasn't so far away from the other countries.

Meh, let's try anyway :DDDDDDD


If it gets too laggy then we'll probably stop

 

[ReRaze]

Speaking of kill confirms, what are the conditions for the n-air to u-smash setup? I can't seem to get it down properly.

You have to fast fall around the 7th hit. Try to watch where your oppnent is going through the nair, when they reach the edge either at the top or corner fast fall then, it becomes muscle memory once you figure out the timing.

I'd say practice on Link first this is just to get the timing down of how long you can stay in the air with nair before allowing the last hit to connect. Also Link is really easy to do this on.
Then move on to the sandbag to practice the timing of when to fast fall to get the opponent to drop out. Gives you a general idea for all characters.
Then try metaknight because his timing is a little stricter but still doable. Lastly ZSS because you have to move out then in and then fast fall, it's really hard to do it on her.