Smash 3DS Smash Run Bosses?

[Fastblade5035]

GameFaqs has already discussed this, and I'm surprised this never came up here.

The Kirbopher claims that a Nintendo Representative told his group about Smash Run Bosses; specifically, Kraid and 'some Kremling.'

Spoiler

Kraid and...

King K. Rool as Smash Run bosses?
Additionally, Klubba, Krusha, etc. may fit the bill better.

A Nintendo Rep accidentally 'leaking' this doesn't surprise me, considering how open some have been to discussion at the events. Heck, at my nearest Best Buy, a Nintendo Rep discussed with me Assist Trophies. Granted, we only talked about Midna and Color TV Game 15, but still.


Regardless of this possible 'leak' of sorts, what would your opinions be on Smash Run Bosses? I think this would be neat to an extent. Kraid, for example, sounds perfect, and the Plasm Wraith could work well here too. Also Metal Sonic and possibly Bass.
There's also apparently a video of Bonkers in Smash Run, portrayed differently than other enemies. This may support the idea.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

As long as Metal Sonic is a boss

 

[DANICK]

I would like to see Giratina as boss

 

[Saint Johns]

I would like to see Giratina as boss

Sorry, but it's been confirmed as a Pokeball Pokemon.

 

[pickle962]

If it were a special event like in KAR's city trial ala Dyna Blade or a UFO showing up thus giving the potential for tons of powerups to be had, then yeah, I welcome "bosses" showing up in smash run to keep things fresh.

 

[AustarusIV]

I really doubt the large Kremling character is K. Rool. It's understandable for a Nintendo rep to know about Kraid and not all the Kremling characters, but how could he not know who King K. Rool is?

If this is real, I think it's either of these three Kremlings he's talking about.

Klubba

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Krusha

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Klump

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[MewtwoMaster2002]

Sorry, but it's been confirmed as a Pokeball Pokemon.

Metroids are assist trophies and Smash Run enemies.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Now as for the large kermling they are not smart to jump to conclusions of it being king k rool.

Because look

http://www.mariowiki.com/Kremling

Other kermlings are as big/bigger than king k rool so it could be any of them.

 

[Xavier :D]

I hope Klump is the boss. Because Kremling Nipples

 

[Saint Johns]

Metroids are assist trophies and Smash Run enemies.

You have a point...

 

[LeeYawshee]

King Boo would be an interesting boss, Petey Piranha as well.

Ridley is obviously a good choice but too controversial.

Snorlax would be an awesome boss, but he's been a pokemon since the first game, I don't see a reason for it to not be the same in this game. Mewtwo would be a smaller boss that would use his psychic powers to their truest potential, maybe even being the strongest boss in the game? Naw, I like to imagine the bosses are all so 4 players can fight em.

Porky for Mother/Earthbound obviously.

Rayquaza could make his rebut in Smash Run.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

Reshiram or Zekrom since we haven't seen them at all...or Yveltal.

 

[JaidynReiman]

King Boo would be an interesting boss, Petey Piranha as well.

Ridley is obviously a good choice but too controversial.

Snorlax would be an awesome boss, but he's been a pokemon since the first game, I don't see a reason for it to not be the same in this game. Mewtwo would be a smaller boss that would use his psychic powers to their truest potential, maybe even being the strongest boss in the game? Naw, I like to imagine the bosses are all so 4 players can fight em.

Porky for Mother/Earthbound obviously.

Rayquaza could make his rebut in Smash Run.

No, Ridley's not a good choice, these Smash Run bosses are all minibosses, not major significant franchise villains (also, the "Kraid" is probably actually the Fake/Mini Kraid, which fits more in line with enemies like Bonkers and Darknuts being these minibosses). Ridley, on the other hand, is the most recurring antagonist and is the main antagonist of the franchise. He has close connections to Samus and often drives the plot for several games, even if he's never the final boss in any game in most of them he's the one who sets off the plot in several games and is generally the one who keeps bringing back the Metroids in consecutive games.

I also disagree on Porky, he's also the main antagonist of his respective franchise. If anything it'd be the giant Porky statue.


As for the Kremling boss, I'm betting its Klubba, Klump, or Krusha.

 

[LeeYawshee]

No, Ridley's not a good choice, these Smash Run bosses are all minibosses, not major significant franchise villains (also, the "Kraid" is probably actually the Fake/Mini Kraid, which fits more in line with enemies like Bonkers and Darknuts being these minibosses). Ridley, on the other hand, is the most recurring antagonist and is the main antagonist of the franchise. He has close connections to Samus and often drives the plot for several games, even if he's never the final boss in any game in most of them he's the one who sets off the plot in several games and is generally the one who keeps bringing back the Metroids in consecutive games.

I also disagree on Porky, he's also the main antagonist of his respective franchise. If anything it'd be the giant Porky statue.


As for the Kremling boss, I'm betting its Klubba, Klump, or Krusha.

Darknuts and Bonkers aren't minibosses, they're normal enemies that appear on the game that are much tougher to defeat but rarer, similar to the Clubberskull(Clubberskull is actually much tougher to kill than both and has been called a normal enemy). Along with that, none of those enemies are events and the guy at Nintendo stated that these bosses would all be events. Having them be big antagonists would make perfect sense. Suddenly... Ridley flies in to cause havoc, or Porky wants to have some fun with the Smashers. Stuff like that.

 

[AustarusIV]

King Boo would be an interesting boss, Petey Piranha as well.

Ridley is obviously a good choice but too controversial.

Snorlax would be an awesome boss, but he's been a pokemon since the first game, I don't see a reason for it to not be the same in this game. Mewtwo would be a smaller boss that would use his psychic powers to their truest potential, maybe even being the strongest boss in the game? Naw, I like to imagine the bosses are all so 4 players can fight em.

Porky for Mother/Earthbound obviously.

Rayquaza could make his rebut in Smash Run.

No.

I'd like to see a pseudo-legendary Pokemon as a Smash Run boss, like Tyranitar or Garchomp.

The Alpha Metroid is another possibility for a Metroid miniboss.

Darknuts and Bonkers aren't minibosses, they're normal enemies that appear on the game that are much tougher to defeat but rarer, similar to the Clubberskull(Clubberskull is actually much tougher to kill than both and has been called a normal enemy). Along with that, none of those enemies are events and the guy at Nintendo stated that these bosses would all be events. Having them be big antagonists would make perfect sense. Suddenly... Ridley flies in to cause havoc, or Porky wants to have some fun with the Smashers. Stuff like that.

No. If we're going to have major antagonists in Smash Run, we may as well put in all the remaining unrepresented characters there, such as King K. Rool, Hades, Mewtwo, etc.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Darknuts and Bonkers aren't minibosses, they're normal enemies that appear on the game that are much tougher to defeat but rarer, similar to the Clubberskull(Clubberskull is actually much tougher to kill than both and has been called a normal enemy). Along with that, none of those enemies are events and the guy at Nintendo stated that these bosses would all be events. Having them be big antagonists would make perfect sense. Suddenly... Ridley flies in to cause havoc, or Porky wants to have some fun with the Smashers. Stuff like that.

Yeah they are. These are events; they pop up on the screen and say "Target" with an arrow pointing to where they are. Take a look at this:

And Darknuts are minibosses in most of the 3D games, which end up as regular enemies later (Darknuts are only regular enemies and not mere minibosses in the original Legend of Zelda). Haven't you ever played Wind Waker or Twilight Princess? In both games, the first time you encounter a Darknut they appear as minibosses, and when they appear later, they're extremely powerful enemies.

I'll give you Bonkers, I don't know much about Kirby, but you're totally off-base here both with the notion that this isn't an event (that's exactly what it is, as posted above), and that Darknuts and Stalfos aren't minibosses (in the 3D Zelda games, both of them are).


Here's the other one:

EDIT: And again I say, "Kraid" is probably actually the Mini/Fake Kraids. Which are basically just extra powerful regular enemies.

EDIT 2: I also don't think at this point Klubba would fit; these clearly aren't actual bosses, even the Kraid reference is probably just the Mini/Fake Kraid, which is only an extra powerful enemy anyway. The DK event boss is probably Krusha or Klump.

 

[LeeYawshee]

Yeah they are. These are events; they pop up on the screen and say "Target" with an arrow pointing to where they are. Take a look at this:

And Darknuts are minibosses in most of the 3D games, which end up as regular enemies later (Darknuts are only regular enemies and not mere minibosses in the original Legend of Zelda). Haven't you ever played Wind Waker or Twilight Princess? In both games, the first time you encounter a Darknut they appear as minibosses, and when they appear later, they're extremely powerful enemies.

I'll give you Bonkers, I don't know much about Kirby, but you're totally off-base here both with the notion that this isn't an event (that's exactly what it is, as posted above), and that Darknuts and Stalfos aren't minibosses (in the 3D Zelda games, both of them are).


Here's the other one:

EDIT: And again I say, "Kraid" is probably actually the Mini/Fake Kraids. Which are basically just extra powerful regular enemies.

EDIT 2: I also don't think at this point Klubba would fit; these clearly aren't actual bosses, even the Kraid reference is probably just the Mini/Fake Kraid, which is only an extra powerful enemy anyway. The DK event boss is probably Krusha or Klump.

Actually, my favorite game series is Zelda so I've played every single Zelda game. However that is not the point.

The point here was that I was
was wrong and I apologize. I'm still holding out for big bosses like the few I mentioned just to add even more depth to the already filled up Smash Run. If not. I'd be fine with it. Once more, I apologize.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Actually, my favorite game series is Zelda so I've played every single Zelda game. However that is not the point.

The point here was that I was
was wrong and I apologize. I'm still holding out for big bosses like the few I mentioned just to add even more depth to the already filled up Smash Run. If not. I'd be fine with it. Once more, I apologize.

I'm perfectly fine with major bosses to appear and be focused on in some way. That's perfectly fine and I'd love to see that.

However, I don't think it feels right for an iconic main antagonist of a series to be put down to such a level.


Anyway, I'm really excited to see what else is in store here. I wonder if Sonic or Mega Man will get these event minibosses, too?

EDIT: Of note, I wouldn't mind it if a third-party main antagonist appeared in this way, because they probably wouldn't be able to appear otherwise. A main antagonist of a minor franchise I wouldn't mind either, but not extremely iconic ones like Ridley and K. Rool. I'd even be hesitant to want to put either Medusa or Hades down to that level.

 

[Your Hero]

If every enemy in the series has some sort of mega boss, I'm very curious to what Rhythm Heaven's boss rep is going to be.

 

[Deleted member]

If anything it'd be the giant Porky statue.

But the Pig King Statue is basically unkillable without getting lucky with PK Flash or if you have the New Year's Eve Bomb!

EarthBound series boss I could see being the Evil Mani Mani Statue (Kind of as an upgraded version of a possible hippie enemy in terms of interface screwing) Master Belch, or possibly the Natural Killer Cyborg.

 

[praline]

If every enemy in the series has some sort of mega boss, I'm very curious to what Rhythm Heaven's boss rep is going to be.

Wrestler?

 

[LIQUID12A]

inb4 the kremlings and their boss start singing

But seriously, Reshiram and Zekrom are perfect for bosses. Yveltal too, but I like the BW duo better.

 

[JaidynReiman]

But the Pig King Statue is basically unkillable without getting lucky with PK Flash or if you have the New Year's Eve Bomb!

EarthBound series boss I could see being the Evil Mani Mani Statue (Kind of as an upgraded version of a possible hippie enemy in terms of interface screwing) Master Belch, or possibly the Natural Killer Cyborg.

My mistake, I thought it was possible to beat it in the original game. So yeah, Evil Mani Mani Statue sounds pretty good.

 

[HugoBoss]

Not this video again....
Pretty sure that "large Kremiling" does not suddenly disconfirm KKR.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Not this video again....
Pretty sure that "large Kremiling" does not suddenly disconfirm KKR.

I already explained why it couldn't possibly refer to King K. Rool, these event Smash Run bosses are either enlarged normal enemies (although still unique from the other Smash Run enemies per franchise), or they are far more powerful regular enemies from a franchise. The large Kremling is probably Krusha, Klump, or maybe a large Kremling boss (Klubba/Kudgel), but its definitely not a main antagonist.

 

[FancysaurusRex]

No. If we're going to have major antagonists in Smash Run, we may as well put in all the remaining unrepresented characters there, such as King K. Rool, Hades, Mewtwo, etc.

Well, I mean...If they don't get in as characters, I'd rather have them as bosses in Smash Run than just stickers and a trophy. I mean, how is Ridley being barely referenced at all any better than Ridley being a boss fight?

I'm of the opinion that, since we won't get Subspace, we should have bosses in Smash Run, and they should be major characters that aren't represented elsewhere. So if we don't get a playable K.Rool, then sure, make him a boss! It's better than the alternative.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Well, I mean...If they don't get in as characters, I'd rather have them as bosses in Smash Run than just stickers and a trophy. I mean, how is Ridley being barely referenced at all any better than Ridley being a boss fight?

I'm of the opinion that, since we won't get Subspace, we should have bosses in Smash Run, and they should be major characters that aren't represented elsewhere. So if we don't get a playable K.Rool, then sure, make him a boss! It's better than the alternative.

There's pretty much no reason to skip K. Rool as a playable at this point and Gematsu basically confirmed DLC. I'd rather not have Ridley/K. Rool as bosses even if they aren't playable, because then there's still the possibility of them getting completed post-release and added as DLC. Making them a boss eliminates the possibility all-together.

 

[Deleted member]

Maybe it's just me, but if I was to have a Donkey Kong boss, I'd rather have Tiki Tong as the boss and King K. Rool as a playable IF they have that in the cards.

 

[Raijinken]

I approve. Gotta have SOMETHING like the Dyna Blade event from City Trial, after all.

But seriously, something like that would actually be very fine with me if the U version gets the rumored "Playable Bosses" as stage hazards. Link in a fifth DS, give someone control over the boss character.

 

[QuickRat]

Sorry, but it's been confirmed as a Pokeball Pokemon.

ROB was confirmed as a regular enemy and he was also a playable character. Everything is possible.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I personally would prefer mini-bosses or lesser main bosses as targets in Smash Run. While I want to see Ridz and the King playable, I would prefer then as stage bosses over Smash Run targets. For the Targets, I'd like to see:

• That green dragon robot from a Mega Man
• The rolling robot with a Mohawk from Mega Man 7.
• Anyone of the Koopalings (or together)
• Petey Piranha
• King Boo
• Tyranitar
• Hydreigon
• Haxorus
• Gyrados
• The boss from the Ancient Cistern in Skyward Sword
• Volvagia from Ocarina of Time
• Twinrova (there's a trophy of her)
• That flying helmet bird in Wind Waker.
• Dynablade
• General Scales

 

[Saint Johns]

ROB was confirmed as a regular enemy and he was also a playable character. Everything is possible.

Well, MEWTWOMASTER2002 said that metroids are assist trophies and Smash Run enemies, so I guess that you're right.

 

[Violenceman]

Smash Run Bosses? Sounds pretty awesome to me!

I'd like to see:

• Tryclyde
• Queen Gohma
• Guts Man
• Pandora
• Kracko
• Hydreigon
• Bald Bull
• Ghost Witch
• Boom-Boom

 

[Habimaru]

I'm secretly hoping for a Neo-Tank from Advance Wars, but it won't be happening. "NOT FIRE EMBLEM" after all

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

The bosses could just be bigger versions of the generic enemies.

 

[Raijinken]

Assuming just largish enemies and not some door-activated boss setting:

• General (Fire Emblem)
• Megatank (Advance Wars)
• Piston Honda (PunchOut)
• E102γ (Sanic)
• Basically any Robot Master
• Jr. Troopa (Paper Mario)
• Klubba (Donkey Kong Country 2)
• Metroid (Metroid)

And if we're allowing boss settings:

• Dyna Blade (Kirby)
• Duon, Galleom, etc (Brawl)
  
• Rayquaza (Pokemon)
  
• Manakete (Fire Emblem)
  
• Master and Crazy Hands (Smash)
  
• Kraid (Metroid)
• Ghoma (Zelda)
• Wily Robot (Megaman whichever)

 

[RPGatWill]

I think bosses would be a cool inclusion. They'd have to be super hard to beat and you'd have to have an option to leave the room rather than waste time fighting them if you're terrible at bosses though. I know I can be.

 

[Aenglaan]

Kraid would be a very good choice. I can also imagine Petty Piranha and some powerful Pokemon from some of the more recent generations.

 

[JUr]

It's a very good idea

I agree with many ones previously stated... Reshiram, Petey Piranha...

An 'egg x' robot or Rogue could work for Sonic representation

 

[Deleted member]

Another "boss" I want is Mr. Sandman from Punch-Out!!. I know somebody mentioned Bald Bull, but I want him to be the franchise Assist Trophy (hopefully he speaks in Turkish).