Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[TheCJBrine]

Hmmmmmmm.....
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Wait a minute....
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Well... i'll be damned.

Spoiler: Well... it seems pretty obvious at this point...

Spoiler

Purple Yoshi looks like he(?) has something going through his mind...

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Agumon is possible. Their size matches, they're fairly fast, and they wouldn't have a rapid jab due to using slashing attacks. (I know that Agumon has a moniker or something referring to bravery, though as I was never a Digimon fan, the specifics here are lost on me. If someone more knowledgable there could help me with that, that would be much appreciated.) But again, we run into the drifting problem. Agumon is not on a bike, it doesn't levitate, and its base form does not carry around very heavy artillery that weight it down to the point of drifting. (And if it was, it wouldn't be moving at anything faster than a snail's pace.)

The Bravery moniker comes from two places, each of the human children in the anime have a specific trait that they shine in, Agumon' s partners is Courage (though that could be Brave in the Japanese version, never really watched it) and the shield that Agumon has in his final form Wargreymon is called the brave shield, I'm assuming that turning into Wargreymon and using his gaia force attack would be his final smash.

The song that plays when he changes forms is also called Brave heart.

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

As someone that played the trilogy of Slime games. I can say that the drifting kinda makes sense for Slime. His fastest form of travelling is by rolling, so I can see that speed working for him. As for the drifting, It could be Slime losing speed after rolling too fast, he is known for reckless movement in the games. His signature move is the Elasto Blast in which he stretches himself and blasts off like a bullet, when he performs this move he takes at least half a second with an animation where he slows down and goes back to his normal stance.

 

[Noipoi]

Purple Yoshi looks like he(?) has something going through his mind...

...What exactly happens when we turn something into an egg?


Don't over think it.


But what happens!?

 

[Just a penguin]

The Bravery moniker comes from two places, each of the human children in the anime have a specific trait that they shine in, Agumon' s partners is Courage (though that could be Brave in the Japanese version, never really watched it) and the shield that Agumon has in his final form Wargreymon is called the brave shield, I'm assuming that turning into Wargreymon and using his gaia force attack would be his final smash.

The song that plays when he changes forms is also called Brave heart.

"They may take our DLC chances, but they'll never take our freedom!"

 

[Zinith]

...What exactly happens when we turn something into an egg?


Don't over think it.


But what happens!?

Their digestive systems are just that powerful

Spoiler: Very cursed image from a certain game

 

[KMDP]

Agumon is possible. Their size matches, they're fairly fast, and they wouldn't have a rapid jab due to using slashing attacks. (I know that Agumon has a moniker or something referring to bravery, though as I was never a Digimon fan, the specifics here are lost on me. If someone more knowledgable there could help me with that, that would be much appreciated.) But again, we run into the drifting problem. Agumon is not on a bike, it doesn't levitate, and its base form does not carry around very heavy artillery that weight it down to the point of drifting. (And if it was, it wouldn't be moving at anything faster than a snail's pace.)

Don't do this to me fleshdude!

Agumon does get an Axe (called the Battle Hawk) in some incarnations (like Digimon World 3), though I can't see it being a major part of his moveset (my point being that an Axe would be quite heavy).

If Agumon were to evolve into Greymon as part of his moveset, a very high weight (and sliding) would be logical. There's also the fact that Agumon, as a fairly bulky reptile by itself, would be pretty heavy.

The Bravery moniker comes from two places, each of the human children in the anime have a specific trait that they shine in, Agumon' s partners is Courage (though that could be Brave in the Japanese version, never really watched it) and the shield that Agumon has in his final form Wargreymon is called the brave shield, I'm assuming that turning into Wargreymon and using his gaia force attack would be his final smash.

The song that plays when he changes forms is also called Brave heart.

Bravery and Courage are synonyms (even in Japanese, naturally).

 

[Bionichute]

the real truth is that it's rick from kirby

the hampster is coming for your faves

you fool rick cannot slide, he is too powerful to slide

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

Agumon seems very likely too:
- Crest of Courage
- WarGreymon's Brave Shield
- Brave Heart is the song that plays when he's Digievolving
- Agumon is often the partner of Brave Tamers
- Agumon has similar weight and height to a human child
- Agumon's basic attack in fighting games is a 3 hit attack (slash, slash, kick) , no rapid jab
- WarGreymon is floaty

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Exactly how short is short? Because I think Sora is still possible if he's the younger Sora and/or he's in his crouched-over fighting stance:

 

[Noipoi]

Agumon seems very likely too:
- Crest of Courage
- WarGreymon's Brave Shield
- Brave Heart is the song that plays when he's Digievolving
- Agumon is often the partner of Brave Tamers
- Agumon has similar weight and height to a human child
- Agumon's basic attack in fighting games is a 3 hit attack (slash, slash, kick) , no rapid jab
- WarGreymon is floaty

Graizen? Did you make another account?

Nah, just kidding

 

[Deleted member]

I now know why dataminers kept Jack and Brave hidden, they knew all along we wouldn't be able to handle discussing who they are. Seeing as how people are going to the point of saying "character X is brave" or "character X has once said the b-word" I'm imagining what the Jack discussions would have been but I know it'd eventually devolve into "character X has jacked off once"

travis is in

 

[Deleted member]

So had anyone completed Adventure Mode or still at it like I am?

If not who had y'all saved so far? Me I've saved



Still on World of Light as we speak.

Still working on it. Trying to figure out where characters like Isabelle and Wario are.

EDIT: Don't remember 100% everyone I have. I'll load it up later and post 'em then.

 

[TyrantLizardKing]

Okay but if Slime gets in and Sakurai plays the same joke he did with Piranha Plant a lot of eyebrows are gonna be raised.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Agumon seems very likely too:
- Crest of Courage
- WarGreymon's Brave Shield
- Brave Heart is the song that plays when he's Digievolving
- Agumon is often the partner of Brave Tamers
- Agumon has similar weight and height to a human child
- Agumon's basic attack in fighting games is a 3 hit attack (slash, slash, kick) , no rapid jab
- WarGreymon is floaty

I won't lie. I honestly do think Agumon would fit the codename well.

That said, the leaks make me think Erdrick is more likely. Plus, there's no denying Dragon Quest has a huge legacy and impact on the gaming world. Even then, despite not being the first Hero available, Erdrick still does a good job representing the original Hero Class, a very important part of gaming history(Slime represents the original monster, who is also a major part too, respectively, but not the only reason I want him. It's part of why I consider Erdrick and Slime to both be extremely good representatives of the Dragon Quest series).

 

[KMDP]

Graizen? Did you make another account?

Nah, just kidding

Noipoi, didn't you know? Everyone who lauds Agumon is actually a Graizen sockpuppet.

The Agumon thread is just all of Graizen's multiple accounts coming together to make it seem like it's different people with a shared interest in a small Orange dinosaur.

 

[Iridium]

travis is in

Would be a good addition for sure...

 

[Deleted member]

Noipoi, didn't you know? Everyone who lauds Agumon is actually a Graizen sockpuppet.

The Agumon thread is just all of Graizen's multiple accounts coming together to make it seem like it's different people with a shared interest in a small Orange dinosaur.

I'm a Graizen alt.
You're a Graizen alt.
We are ALL Graizen alts on this blessed day.

 

[Zinith]

Noipoi, didn't you know? Everyone who lauds Agumon is actually a Graizen sockpuppet.

The Agumon thread is just all of Graizen's multiple accounts coming together to make it seem like it's different people with a shared interest in a small Orange dinosaur.

Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if some people thought that about me (Yoshi and Aguman are only a few degrees of separation after all)

 

[Wademan94]

Okay but if Slime gets in and Sakurai plays the same joke he did with Piranha Plant a lot of eyebrows are gonna be raised.

So Slime as an echo fighter of ?

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

https://www.khwiki.com/Glide
Sora kinda fits too.

This sliding and floaty movement is what prevents me from believing it's Erdrick, he's not exactly what I would classify as fast or floaty, he's not even close to being the fastest member in the party in Dragon Quest 3 (the game where he's playable). If "Brave" turns out to be either Slime, Agumon or Sora, I will be very happy.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

So Slime as an echo fighter of ?

Nobody can copy the legendary Piranha Plant

 

[Deleted member]

Look, Agumon being in Smash would actually make me excited, especially if I can play as Greymon and MetalGreymon mid-battle by raising a meter or something.
But it isn't wise to stretch logic JUST to make the idea seem likely.

"Brave" doesn't make any sense to be Agumon other than trying to link instances of the word to the character.

 

[AntagonisticGalaxyCetacea]

I dont think the sliding bit with the turning is anything noteworthy, theres lots of characters that slide a bit when they turn around

 

[Captain Shwampy]

I dont think the sliding bit with the turning is anything noteworthy, theres lots of characters that slide a bit when they turn around

* character has average speed/power and slides after running and turning the other direction like any other video game character*

HOLY **** GUYS SORA IS IN

 

[fleshdude.gov]

I won't lie. I honestly do think Agumon would fit the codename well.

That said, the leaks make me think Erdrick is more likely.

The leaks aren't in the game's code though.

So Slime as an echo fighter of ?

Imagine Slime but with a really long neck

 

[Deleted member]

I dont think the sliding bit with the turning is anything noteworthy, theres lots of characters that slide a bit when they turn around

And notably most of the bottom tiers of sliding are sword wielders.

 

[KMDP]

And notably most of the bottom tiers of sliding are sword wielders.

Except Link, apparently.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Except Link, apparently.

Link always slides behind the scenes

 

[Will]

Based Smashboards, still giving me ads to preorder Pokemon Let's Go games.

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

Look, Agumon being in Smash would actually make me excited, especially if I can play as Greymon and MetalGreymon mid-battle by raising a meter or something.
But it isn't wise to stretch logic JUST to make the idea seem likely.

"Brave" doesn't make any sense to be Agumon other than trying to link instances of the word to the character.

It's not stretching. Agumon is a symbol of bravery/courage in-universe. Whenever there's something related to bravery in Digimon, you can always expect Agumon or one of his digievolutions to ve involved. The Crest of Courage along the other crests are a plot point in Digimon. The Brave Shield is part of WarGreymon's body, and it bears Crest of Courage.

"Brave" fits Agumon as much as it fits Erdrick tbh.

 

[Deleted member]

Remember guys, Piranha Plant's stats changed crazily in one patch (used to be slower then Incineroar, now it's faster then Lucario)

A month from now this sliding may not even be a thing.

 

[RyuhoFox]

Honestly considering tmk Jack isn't directly tied to or referenced by Joker outside a common phrasing that could describe their The Fool tarot I don't think connecting Brave to Agumon because he directly references the word itself makes sense.

Jack could either reference a monster mascot of SMT or The Fool tarot but it isn't a direct stated thing for the character. It can be connected to them but in a more abstract way.
Meanwhile Agumon has many things directly referencing the words courage or brave, which doesn't fit the example we do have. It's too on the nose comparatively.

This is assuming that the code names even mean what we think they do for the characters or if they mean anything at all to begin with.

 

[Idon]

Don't worry, the January 10th Nintendo direct will surely lead us out of this conundrum.
Right?
Please be real.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

The one problem with Agumon being in Smash for me is the music .

Can anyone name a good music track from the Digimon games? Most of then are pretty forgetabble. The only one I can think of is the battle theme from Digimon world dawn on DS.

That was a pretty good track.

 

[Deleted member]

It's not stretching. Agumon is a symbol of bravery/courage in-universe. Whenever there's something related to bravery in Digimon, you can always expect Agumon or one of his digievolutions to ve involved. The Crest of Courage along the other crests are a plot point in Digimon. The Brave Shield is part of WarGreymon's body, and it bears Crest of Courage.

"Brave" fits Agumon as much as it fits Erdrick tbh.

"Brave" is literally what the Japanese word used to name the typical Hero in DQ translates to.

It's not a "symbol", it's a name.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly considering tmk Jack isn't directly tied to or referenced by Joker outside a common phrasing that could describe their The Fool tarot I don't think connecting Brave to Agumon because he directly references the word itself makes sense.

Jack could either reference a monster mascot of SMT or The Fool tarot but it isn't a direct stated thing for the character. It can be connected to them but in a more direct way.
Meanwhile Agumon has many things directly referencing the words courage or brave, which doesn't fit the example we do have. It's too on the nose comparatively.

This is assuming that the code names even mean what we think they do for the characters or if they mean anything at all to begin with.

Considering Nintendo let B O X happen, I don't think they care TOO much about the codenames. Some intern probably came up with them tbh

 

[Robertman2]

Anyone remember that one fake leak saying Sakurai wasn't allowed to add SMT/Persona, Yokai Watch and Digimon characters because of the Pokemon Company?

 

[Captain Shwampy]

The one problem with Agumon being in Smash for me is the music .

Can anyone name a good music track from the Digimon games? Most of then are pretty forgetabble. The only one I can think of is the battle theme from Digimon world dawn on DS.

That was a pretty good track.

Didnt Masafumi Takada do the soundtrack for the recent games

Should be a ton of good tracks than

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I would like to say Amaterasu from Okami for it's unique one of a kind watercolor-esque art design. At least that's my opinion anyways

Good taste