Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[SnakeFighter64]

OMG, the Smash 4 days... that takes me back. I went on the computer in the classroom every day at lunch, and I remember running to the back of the classroom to tell my best friend when was announced... after all, that was the first time a Newcomer was announced since E3, so it was the first time I was there to witness it on reveal day... :3

I got into Smash 4 too late for main roster hype, but I was there for the DLC. I remember thinking I had it figured out after Ryu and then Cloud, Corrin, and Bayonetta happened.

Then I was certain there was gonna be a season 2 of DLC content. Why wouldn’t there be. There’s only one Smash game per system so why not keep supporting it till the end of the console cycle. Well, I guess that’s kind of what they did when you think about it.

Also my ballot votes went to Snake, Dig Dug, and Scorpion. Don’t judge me.

Yes it was
But it was also really ****ing stressful. I mean, we all knew he was coming back, but it was just plain wrong that wasn't confirmed until April 2014...

Honestly, I never really felt the rush of getting one of my most wanteds until showed up in Ultimate, heh.
And then there was
I literally screamed "YES! HOLY **** YES!" when she was announced lol

That’s why I’m glad all the vets got confirmed at once. I know it’s a little different because of the whole Everyone is Here gimmick, but just instantly knowing all of your old favorites were back Meade anticipating newcomers all the more exciting.

 

[MainJPW]

I specifically remember one day, around E3 time, I left the browser on the Smash site overnight, and then I came back to it, clicked something, and bam! showed up... And assuming he was one of my most wanteds at the time, I freaked out...

A lot of us who were following social media during E3 had actually heard about Pac-Man from Tweets from people who were at the developer round table. It was a tweet from Gamexplain that I had seen in the E3 speculation thread and everyone was freaking out it was amazing.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

This is the same FCC that Ajit Pai has been running into the ground, right? Personally, I hope that smarmy git gets investigated, tried, found guilty, and thrown in jail to share a cell with a large, violent homosexual who doesn't take "no" for an answer.

Again, are we talking about Ajit Pai here? The same Ajit Pai who's trying to enable Comcast and Verizon to literally throttle the Internet?

First of all it was clearly 4kids.

Second holy **** what the **** is wrong with you, what made you into this vile person? Get help

 

[SnakeFighter64]

First of all it was clearly 4kids.

Second holy **** what the **** is wrong with you, what made you into this vile person? Get help

People really care about Net Neutrality. It being gone is a very dangerous prospect for the entire internet.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

delete please

 

[KMDP]

Regarding cuts, the way I see it is that there are multiple tiers of "cutability".

There are the characters who are always safe; Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Pikachu, what have you. Yoshi is among this group.
There are characters who are probably here to stay because they're easy to make, such as Lucina.
There are characters who are on thin ice, who get by due to outside factors, such as Jigglypuff and Ness. One could consider the flavour-of-the-month characters (for example: Ike and Lucario) to be in this tier.
There are the third parties, who are dependent on negotiations.
Then there are the characters who are demonstrably cutable, like Young Link, Pichu and Wolf.

Something would have to go seriously wrong for Yoshi to be cut from Smash Bros., worrying about Jigglypuff, Ness and Captain Falcon is a lot more understandable.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Regarding cuts, the way I see it is that there are multiple tiers of "cutability".

There are the characters who are always safe; Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Pikachu, what have you. Yoshi is among this group.
There are characters who are probably here to stay because they're easy to make, such as Lucina.
There are characters who are on thin ice, who get by due to outside factors, such as Jigglypuff and Ness. One could consider the flavour-of-the-month characters (for example: Ike and Lucario) to be in this tier.
There are the third parties, who are dependent on negotiations.
Then there are the characters who are demonstrably cutable, like Young Link, Pichu and Wolf.

Something would have to go seriously wrong for Yoshi to be cut from Smash Bros., worrying about Jigglypuff, Ness and Captain Falcon is a lot more understandable.

After one Smash with no cuts, I don’t think we can ever have cuts ever again.

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

Regarding cuts, the way I see it is that there are multiple tiers of "cutability".

There are the characters who are always safe; Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Pikachu, what have you. Yoshi is among this group.
There are characters who are probably here to stay because they're easy to make, such as Lucina.
There are characters who are on thin ice, who get by due to outside factors, such as Jigglypuff and Ness. One could consider the flavour-of-the-month characters (for example: Ike and Lucario) to be in this tier.
There are the third parties, who are dependent on negotiations.
Then there are the characters who are demonstrably cutable, like Young Link, Pichu and Wolf.

Something would have to go seriously wrong for Yoshi to be cut from Smash Bros., worrying about Jigglypuff, Ness and Captain Falcon is a lot more understandable.

I believe the only characters safe from being cut are the original 12.

 

[Admiral Pit]

So I haven't been here in a while... Any topics I should be aware of or something? o: Hopefully one I can finally contribute to?

 

[Ultomato]

I would've left everyone the same, except switching Villager to Dutch, so I could hear the glorious Dorpsbewoner.

As a Dutchman, I think "Dorpeling" would be more appropreate and wat funnier

 

[Deleted member]

Regarding cuts, the way I see it is that there are multiple tiers of "cutability".

There are the characters who are always safe; Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Pikachu, what have you. Yoshi is among this group.
There are characters who are probably here to stay because they're easy to make, such as Lucina.
There are characters who are on thin ice, who get by due to outside factors, such as Jigglypuff and Ness. One could consider the flavour-of-the-month characters (for example: Ike and Lucario) to be in this tier.
There are the third parties, who are dependent on negotiations.
Then there are the characters who are demonstrably cutable, like Young Link, Pichu and Wolf.

Something would have to go seriously wrong for Yoshi to be cut from Smash Bros., worrying about Jigglypuff, Ness and Captain Falcon is a lot more understandable.

As I said, we all knew he was coming back. It just wasn't right that he wasn't confirmed until April.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Regarding cuts, the way I see it is that there are multiple tiers of "cutability".

There are the characters who are always safe; Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Pikachu, what have you. Yoshi is among this group.
There are characters who are probably here to stay because they're easy to make, such as Lucina.
There are characters who are on thin ice, who get by due to outside factors, such as Jigglypuff and Ness. One could consider the flavour-of-the-month characters (for example: Ike and Lucario) to be in this tier.
There are the third parties, who are dependent on negotiations.
Then there are the characters who are demonstrably cutable, like Young Link, Pichu and Wolf.

Something would have to go seriously wrong for Yoshi to be cut from Smash Bros., worrying about Jigglypuff, Ness and Captain Falcon is a lot more understandable.

I don't think anyone should be worrying about Captain Falcon anytime soon, F-Zero is pretty dead, but he's crazy popular in Smash, especially among casuals. When discussing cuts I feel like there's too much focus on how important a character is in their core series, and not enough on how important that character is to Smash, the latter is actually far more important than the former, hence why Jigglypuff has never gotten the axe.

 

[Pakky]

Cuts? More like Butts!

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I don't think anyone should be worrying about Captain Falcon anytime soon, F-Zero is pretty dead, but he's crazy popular in Smash, especially among casuals. When discussing cuts I feel like there's too much focus on how important a character is in their core series, and not enough on how important that character is to Smash, the latter is actually far more important than the former, hence why Jigglypuff has never gotten the axe.

Captain Falcon is basically a Smash OC at this point...
A lot of Falcon's personality and his moveset, including the infamous Falcon Punch, all originate from Smash

Cutting him would make Smash lose a lot of it's charm

 

[KMDP]

After one Smash with no cuts, I don’t think we can ever have cuts ever again.

And then the next Smash comes out during the next Console Generation and...
and all the Third Parties
...are all gone from the roster.
There's actually reasoning behind this list, by the way.

I believe the only characters safe from being cut are the original 12.

Jigglypuff has consistently been low priority, though. She might have even been cut from Brawl had the game not been delayed for Sonic. Additionally, Ness was almost replaced with Lucas in Melee.

I don't think anyone should be worrying about Captain Falcon anytime soon, F-Zero is pretty dead, but he's crazy popular in Smash, especially among casuals. When discussing cuts I feel like there's too much focus on how important a character is in their core series, and not enough on how important that character is to Smash, the latter is actually far more important than the former, hence why Jigglypuff has never gotten the axe.

This is true. Though in Jiggs' case I refer to my previous statement, she's been very close to being cut in the past.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Regular old knockback feels so weird now, my brother and I briefly went back to Melee, and we had so many "wow, I actually died from that?" moments because of it, it's like you're just floating into outer space. Not having the shorthop attack shortcut anymore also took a lot of getting used to.

A lot of the changes in Ultimate I already liked before it came out, but going back to previous games now really makes me realize how huge an improvement they really were.

That’s exactly how it’s like compared to Ultimate. Was as if they were all fighting underwater most of the time

 

[MainJPW]

Cuts? More like Butts!

Is this your way of saying you want Twintelle in the next Smash installment?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Is this your way of saying you want Twintelle in the next Smash installment?

That's Pakky for ya...

 

[Pakky]

Is this your way of saying you want Twintelle in the next Smash installment?

That's Pakky for ya...

Yes :3

Though if ARMS gets in (I think they'll be a ARMS2 on the Switch, 'Hehehe 2 ARMS' ) It'll probably be Spring and Ribbon who get first pickings.

Though I would like it if there were four guys from ARMS but that's not happening.

 

[Deleted member]

Cuts? More like Butts!

I suggest you stay away from that topic for your own good
After all, I'm on the thread at the moment

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

Captain Falcon is basically a Smash OC at this point...
A lot of Falcon's personality and his moveset, including the infamous Falcon Punch, all originate from Smash

Cutting him would make Smash lose a lot of it's charm

Now that you mentioned it, I kinda want another Smash OC. I just want to see Sakurai's creativity giving birth to a new memelord character.

 

[Deleted member]

Now that you mentioned it, I kinda want another Smash OC. I just want to see Sakurai's creativity giving birth to a new memelord character.

Primid for Smash

 

[KMDP]

Yes :3

How I'm picturing Pakky right now: Link (Language warning, I guess)

Though if ARMS gets in (I think they'll be a ARMS2 on the Switch, 'Hehehe 2 ARMS' ) It'll probably be Spring and Ribbon who get first pickings.

Though I would like it if there were four guys from ARMS but that's not happening.

You missed the chance to say "A2MS", Pakky. I am disappoint.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Now that you mentioned it, I kinda want another Smash OC. I just want to see Sakurai's creativity giving birth to a new memelord character.

Take a car from Stunt Race FX, and have it fight on two wheels, ala Hornet in Fighter's Megamix

 

[Deleted member]

Take a car from Stunt Race FX, and have him fight on two wheels, ala Hornet in Fighter's Megamix

Okay
But Primid tho
PRIMID THO

 

[Ultomato]

Yes :3

Though if ARMS gets in (I think they'll be a ARMS2 on the Switch, 'Hehehe 2 ARMS' ) It'll probably be Spring and Ribbon who get first pickings.

Though I would like it if there were four guys from ARMS but that's not happening.

Is it strange to suggest Helix represents the series best?

 

[Deleted member]

Is it strange to suggest Helix represents the series best?

A little lol

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

A little lol

Really?
Then who would you suggest?

 

[Deleted member]

Really?
Then who would you suggest?

Since we're not getting an ARMS character in this Smash, Spring Man.
duh

 

[Ultomato]

Since we're not getting an ARMS character in this Smash, Spring Man.
duh

You deny the superiority of the Wacky Waving ARMS Flailing Inflatable Tube Man?

 

[Pakky]

From what I gather about the lore the most important characters are

Springman

Ribbon Girl

Max Brass

Dr. Coyle

-----

Who I would want

Twintelle/Min Min

Springman

Max Brass/Lola Pop

Dr. Coyle/Ribbon Girl

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Tax Fraud?

That meme is so dead and unfunny now that its Decomposing

 

[Deleted member]

I was surprised that ARMs didn't get a character in Smash. I know it's brand new and wasn't as popular as Splatoon was when it launched, but so far, Smash Ultimate doesn't have a character who made their debut on Switch yet.

Are there any others that came from good, recognizable Switch games that could make it in?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I was surprised that ARMs didn't get a character in Smash. I know it's brand new and wasn't as popular as Splatoon was when it launched, but so far, Smash Ultimate doesn't have a character who made their debut on Switch yet.

Are there any others that came from good, recognizable Switch games that could make it in?

Just wait, The Daemon X Machina Guy will be the promotional DLC character

 

[Deleted member]

I was surprised that ARMs didn't get a character in Smash. I know it's brand new and wasn't as popular as Splatoon was when it launched, but so far, Smash Ultimate doesn't have a character who made their debut on Switch yet.

Are there any others that came from good, recognizable Switch games that could make it in?

A Gen 8 Pokemon is really the only Switch-Debut character that has a chance for Ultimate lol
Oh, and also, someone did this:

Made you guys a Transparent Sora Selfie.
go nuts.#kingdomhearts #kingdomhearts3 #khspoilers pic.twitter.com/1n1XkZ3K0g

— ✨Candy ✨ (@Candasaurus) September 18, 2018

So, naturally, I did this:

 

[Deleted member]

A Gen 8 Pokemon is really the only Switch-Debut character that has a chance for Ultimate lol
Oh, and also, someone did this:

Made you guys a Transparent Sora Selfie.
go nuts.#kingdomhearts #kingdomhearts3 #khspoilers pic.twitter.com/1n1XkZ3K0g

— ✨Candy ✨ (@Candasaurus) September 18, 2018

So, naturally, I did this:
View attachment 186883

You need to delete this post, create alt accounts on every forum you know of, then spread this as 'rumored DLC'.

 

[Deleted member]

You need to delete this post, create alt accounts on every forum you know of, then spread this as 'rumored DLC'.

Nah, I don't really feel like it!

 

[Ultomato]

From what I gather about the lore the most important characters are

Springman

Ribbon Girl

Max Brass

Dr. Coyle

-----

Who I would want

Twintelle/Min Min

Springman

Max Brass/Lola Pop

Dr. Coyle/Ribbon Girl

But Brass, Coyle and Pop are DLC.
Also, Helix has some interesting Lore too.

 

[Deleted member]

But Brass, Coyle and Pop are DLC.
Also, Helix has some interesting Lore too.

I thought Brass and Coyle were in the base game but didn't become playable until DLC

 

[Deleted member]

You need to delete this post, create alt accounts on every forum you know of, then spread this as 'rumored DLC'.

Also, as far as a Gen 8 goes of. You have a point. It supposed to release 2019 and the last time we had a mainline game releasing within the year, the first bit of info came in early January of that year. With DLC going throughout the year, it's very possible that one of the early designs may have been given to Sakurai/Nintendo and they can cross-promote not only new Smash DLC, but the brand new, highly anticipated Gen 8.

This is to be the first main-line console generation ever, there is a LOT of anticipation for it. Which reminds me, its about time to return to my Serebii account so I can start keeping track of everything released. I know there's no limit to the elemental types of pokemon in Smash, but I doubt that we'd get another Fire starter after already being given Incineroar. So maybe a Water or Grass Starter evolution will be in (in the end, I guess it depends on Design and move potential, though).

EDIT: Dammit...Ive done this before, but I meant to edit my own post, not reply to it....sorry for the stupidity lol.