Smashboards Creates: A Community Proposed SSB6

[Louie G.]

We could loosen the restrictions by a potential vote for Fighters Pass 2.

I was thinking this too, it makes sense with the prospect that maybe FP1 was decided in tandem with the base game development and FP2 allowed them to reassess their options.

I wanna say though, just for the sake of discussion I think we should probably keep veterans off limits. I agree that the roster feels empty without some of them but I worry we would overplay our hand and prevent ourselves from acting on exciting new content. This is a thought exercise after all and we don’t need to treat it like gospel. But yeah, we should vote on it. If we vote in favor of veterans I’d honestly advocate for a Fighter Pass 3 just to keep the conversation moving a bit further.

As for ATs, generally I would be okay with leaving them be but in the case of Ultimate DLC we had years progress between the roster’s project plan and up through DLC to introduce more new characters that became viable candidates. It’s why ARMS, Xeno 2 and Three Houses had to wait. In this scenario… we only know what we know now. We don’t have a Byleth or even a Min Min or Aegis expy since those characters probably don’t exist yet. So some of the previously snubbed characters from newer titles like 2023’s TOTK or Pikmin 4 are the closest we can get right now. Realistically though, we should have been smarter about some of the base roster choices but it is what it is.

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Tails
2. Lloyd
3. Sol

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes
Tails 11
Knight Artorias 5
Ahri 2
Lloyd 10
Sol Badguy 8

Tails is the next DLC fighter.

DLC Job 12: Submit a 2B Moveset

DLC Job 14: Submit a Sonic the Hedgehog Stage

I’ll nominate Egg Carrier, which would be a traveling stage, and it would start in the main hub where Chaos 6 and Zero are fought. Areas that the stage would travel to are the main interior, and a part of the Sky Deck and Hot Selter.
DLC Job 15: Submit a Tails Moveset

feel free to add Challenger Pass 4 Mii Outfits, Sonic the Hedgehog Music and Trophies
feel free to submit alts, base game Mii outfits, and Nier music

 

[BritishGuy54]

DLC Job 14: Planet Wisp (Sonic Colours)

Finally, a chance to fix the lacklustre selection of Sonic stages. I want a stage that isn’t very ‘city’ esque, and one that isn’t part of the classic games.

That said, Planet Wisp is a good shout here. We don’t have many grassy stages, and it isn’t a level one stage either.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Emerald Coast
I feel like representing the Adventure Games is the best route for stages. It's very beach themed, so it adds some variety too.

Nier Music:
Bipolar Nightmare
Birth of a Wish
Amusement Park
City Ruins
A Beautiful Song

 

[darkvortex]

Mii Costume Wave
Shadow (Gunner)
Silver (Brawler)
Eggman (Gunner)
Alex Kidd (Brawler)
Akira Yuki (Brawler)
Sakura Shinguji (Swordfighter)

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the nominations
Pupp135 Egg Carrier
BritishGuy54 Planet Wisp
Northsouthmap Emerald Coast

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Planet Wisp
2. Egg Carrier
3. Emerald Coast

DLC Job 12: Submit a 2B Moveset

DLC Job 15: Submit a Tails Moveset

DLC Job 16: Submit a Nintendo Newcomer

I’ll nominate Sidon to help highlight notable Legend of Zelda games during the Switch era.

feel free to add Sonic the Hedgehog Music and Trophies, alts, and base game Mii outfits

Alts
Bowser Jr.: Koopalings

Ike: PoR, RD, Elincia, Red, Greil, Geoffrey, Sigurd, Black Knight

Isaac: Felix, Mia, Jenna, Garret, Dark Dawn Outfit, Matthew Outfit

Mii Outfits
Toad - Brawler
Skull Kid - Brawler
Spring Man - Brawler
Ashley - Swordfighter
Viridi - Swordfighter
Zero - Swordfighter
Rabbid - Gunner

 

[BritishGuy54]

DLC Job 16: Noah (Xenoblade)

I’m not going to elaborate here. It feels pointless doing so.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Resubmitting Pauline

DLC Job

Pauline (Mario)

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Rosalina was done dirty by not getting to return, but I have another Mario... well not Princess, but Mayor in mind.

Pauline is a character with both an extensive history throughout Nintendo and modern relevance. She is one of the first three characters in the entire Mario franchise, alongside Mario and DK (who are literally #1 and #2 in Ultimate's character lineup). She also has high relevance in the Switch era, being very prominent in the big 3D Mario Game Oddysey and being added to a multitude of different Mario spinoffs like Mario Kart and Mario Tennis. Overall, she would be a perfect fit for Smash, using moves from Oddysey the same way Rosalina used moves from Galaxy in her moveset.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Alear
Represents the newest Fire Emblem game, which we failed to do in the base game.
They would use swordplay and summons of other characters.

1. Planet Wisp
2. Emerald Coast
3. Egg Carrier

 

[Louie G.]

I'm going to throw my hat in the ring, I'm just still thinking of what I want to nominate. Just making a placeholder post so we don't move ahead yet.

1. Planet Wisp
2. Emerald Coast
3. Egg Carrier

Surprising myself a bit here because I thought I wanted an Adventure stage, but I do think Planet Wisp could be a pretty fantastic stage. Extra perk here is that the Colors remaster came out somewhat recently, so it makes sense to be on people's minds.

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll leave nominations up until tomorrow.

 

[Louie G.]

DLC Job 16: Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club)

Well, I was kinda stumped on what to do here, but I’ve been trying to find a character in the spirit of how Ultimate handled its first party DLC. Generally they were in response to notable releases that missed the development window. We don’t exactly have a concrete “launch” for this game, but the closest thing I can think of is the promising future we now know Famicom Detective Club has, with a new game on the horizon.

FDC is not a big, high budget series. So perhaps it isn’t quite the right series to receive this kind of promo, but nonetheless I believe Ayumi is someone we would have taken seriously for base game had we known. And representing both a new Nintendo series outright, and even a new genre with Ayumi being the first VN character, she feels like she would make a valuable and dynamic addition to the cast. I would love to explore ways to represent the essence of her genre and the mystery theming of these games into her moveset to create a character unlike anything else so far.

I’m a bit disappointed I couldn’t think of a real Switch-era character, but frankly the options are limited now. I can’t nominate Oatchi, Zelda’s options are sparse (honestly feeling Guardian lately, but I don’t want to repeat from the other roster thread). And I’d have doubled up nominating another Splatoon character, but I have an itching feeling most people are okay with leaving it at three. Maybe next pass I’ll give that another go. For now let’s ponder on this surprising series resurgence.

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

Egg Carrier 4
Planet Wisp 9
Emerald Coast 5

Planet Wisp is the next stage.

Here are the nominations:

Pupp135 Sidon
BritishGuy54 Noah
Mushroomguy12 Pauline
Northsouthmap Alear
Louie G. Ayumi Tachibana

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Ayumi
2. Sidon
3. Noah

I put Ayumi in first because she provides a new series to the table. Noah and Alear were a toss-up, and I just went with the one I felt a little more inclined to add.

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Noah
2. Sidon
3. Ayumi

 

[darkvortex]

1. Sidon
2. Noah
3. Ayumi

 

[Louie G.]

1. Sidon
2. Ayumi
3. Alear

Sidon is a bit out there, but I can get behind it. He’s a very popular character, he’s appeared in both BOTW and TOTK, his trident would grant him unique moveset options and Age of Calamity gives him some cool ideas to expand on. I think we could use more from Zelda, and this is a creative choice that isn’t so out of left field when you really think about it. I’m never quite sure what the smartest move is for a Switch era Zelda character so I’ve been open to the possibilities lately.

Ayumi is the one character here from a new series to Smash, which I think is somewhat valuable and helps the FDC revival to be a success. They also make the most sense as a character who may have missed the boat for base roster and put in heavier consideration after the plan had already been set. Alear… I don’t care for them much, but I still have regrets about not prioritizing a newer Fire Emblem character. I still think Three Houses deserves it more, but just working with the cards we were dealt here I will throw them a bone.

Pauline is fine and I have a cool moveset idea for her, but I don’t really think she’s that exciting or worthy to represent Odyssey akin to Rosalina and Galaxy. I just struggle to put them in the same camp. Noah has been nominated so many times that I almost feel bad, but I’ll just say outright that I think two (three) characters is good for Xenoblade. It’s not a megaton Nintendo series. Pyra / Mythra get to remain strong Switch-era character choices and Shulk is the guy. The series is closer in size to (smaller than) the likes of Pikmin which is still strapped with a single character. It’d be okay if they got another I suppose, but it’s nowhere near essential. I would suggest Zelda only having four characters is far more egregious.

 

[BritishGuy54]

1. Pauline
2. Noah
3. Ayumi

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

Sidon 10
Noah 8
Pauline 3
Alear 1
Ayumi Tachibana 8

Sidon is the next fighter.

Job 17: Submit a Sidon Moveset

Job 18: Submit a Legend of Zelda Stage

feel free to add alts, base game Mii costumes, and Legend of Zelda and Sonic the Hedgehog Music and Trophies.
feel free to add Challenger Pass 5 costumes.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Sigh... I was going to vote for Noah, but I guess that's my punishment for not checking social media for mental health reasons during long distance trips.

If the length of the submission period (4 days) and the voting period (2 days) were switched, I probably would have been able to vote... I have to say not a fan of how wildly inconsistent the lengths of them are. I waited so long for the submission period to end so I could vote, but then the voting period was much shorter, it's so enormously frustrating.

Of course the one job where my vote would have actually made a difference is the one I miss out on. And I only missed the voting period by less than a day. I hate my luck so, so much.

 

[Pupp135]

Sigh... I was going to vote for Noah, but I guess that's my punishment for not checking social media for mental health reasons during long distance trips.

If the length of the submission period (4 days) and the voting period (2 days) were switched, I probably would have been able to vote... I have to say not a fan of how wildly inconsistent the lengths of them are. I waited so long for the submission period to end so I could vote, but then the voting period was much shorter, it's so enormously frustrating.

Of course the one job where my vote would have actually made a difference is the one I miss out on. And I only missed the voting period by less than a day. I hate my luck so, so much.

I’m sorry about the inconsistent nature of the jobs, and I’ll try to make these more consistent going forward (2 day cycles hopefully).

These fell through the cracks, so I’ll have these set for the 2B and Tails movesets.

Because I didn’t receive nominations, I’ll leave these jobs up until Monday:

Job 17: Submit a Sidon Moveset

Job 18: Submit a Legend of Zelda Stage

I’ll nominate the Nadhoyah Shrine. The layout would be like Pirate Ship without the storm or cannons.

feel free to add alts, base game Mii costumes, and Legend of Zelda and Sonic the Hedgehog Music and Trophies.
feel free to add Challenger Pass 5 costumes.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Zora's Domain
Since Sidon is the above species, it makes sense for his stage to be this.

 

[Pupp135]

I’ll leave up the job for Sidon’s moveset.

For the Legend of Zelda Stage, here is a poll to vote between Nadhoyah Shrine and Zora’s Domain.

Which stage should be added? | StrawPoll

What is your opinion? Vote now: Nadhoyah Shrine, Zora’s Domain

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DLC Job 19: Submit a DLC Fighter Not from Capcom, Toby Fox 8-4, Square Enix, or Sega. I’ll close submissions on Wednesday morning ET

I entertained the idea of Lloyd from Tales, but I decided to go with Patamon as Digimon is a notable franchise.

feel free to add alts, base game Mii costumes, and Legend of Zelda and Sonic the Hedgehog Music and Trophies.
feel free to add Challenger Pass 5 costumes.

 

[BritishGuy54]

CP4 Trophies:
Chaos
Perfect Chaos
Biolizard
Neo Metal Sonic
Black Doom
Orbot & Cubot
The Deadly Six
Infinite
Sage

CP4 Music:
Planet Wisp (New Remix) (Sonic Colours)
Scrap Brain Zone (Sonic 1)
Death Egg Robot (Sonic 2)
Angel Island Zone (Sonic 3)
Open Your Heart (Sonic Adventure)
What I’m Made Of (Sonic Heroes)
Kingdom Valley (Sonic ‘06)
Rooftop Run (Day) (Sonic Unleashed)
Egg Dragoon (Sonic Unleashed)
Sonic Colours Medley
Frigate Skullian (Sonic Colours)
Fist Bump (Sonic Forces)
Cyberspace 1-2 (Sonic Frontiers)
Cyberspace 3-5 (Sonic Frontiers)

 

[Louie G.]

DLC Job 19: Submit a DLC Fighter Not from Capcom, Toby Fox 8-4, Square Enix, or Sega. I’ll close submissions on Wednesday morning ET

Wait, is the first Fighter Pass going to be six characters? Or is this a second Pass? I was under the impression the slate was cleaned if we started FP2, that every company was back on the table again. Since we added the obligatory Nintendo pick I thought we wrapped up the first batch.

 

[Pupp135]

Wait, is the first Fighter Pass going to be six characters? Or is this a second Pass? I was under the impression the slate was cleaned if we started FP2, that every company was back on the table again. Since we added the obligatory Nintendo pick I thought we wrapped up the first batch.

This is the last Fighters’ Pass one character. Each Fighters’ Pass will have six fighters.

 

[darkvortex]

Ryu Hayabusa
He came up a lot during speciation for Ultimate so I think he would be on the teams mind as a potential choice. Koei Techmo also have a really strong relationship with Nintendo that is still going to this day. He could have a moveset that mixes the classic games, the more modern action titles, and his moveset from Dead or Alive.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Bomberman
He is the main protagonist of the series who is highly requested to get in Smash because of his history with Nintendo systems and move set potential.
Konami could use another rep.

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the nominations:
Pupp135 Patamon
darkvortex Ryu Hayabusa
Northsouthmap Bomberman

Vote for your two most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Bomberman
2. Patamon

feel free to add alts, base game Mii costumes, and Legend of Zelda Music and Trophies.
feel free to add Challenger Pass 5 costumes.

 

[darkvortex]

1. Bomberman
2. Ryu

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Ryu Hayabusa
2. Bomberman

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes:

Patamon 1
Ryu Hayabusa 3
Bomberman 5

Bomberman is the last Fighter’s Pass 1 fighter.

Nadhoyah Shrine is the Challenger Pass 5 stage.

DLC Job 20: Submit a Bomberman Moveset

DLC Job 21: Submit a Bomberman Stage

feel free to add alts, base game Mii costumes, and Legend of Zelda and Bomberman Music and Trophies.
feel free to add Challenger Pass 5 and Challenger Pass 6 costumes.

 

[darkvortex]

Bomber Arena
The classic Bomber Man stage as a Smash arena. Fight inside the stage as bombs drop around and blocks blow up. The stage is closed off at the sides, and players must knock fighters upwards into the sky.

Pass 5
Tingle - Brawler
Master Kohga - Brawler
BOTW Zelda - Swordfighter
Tetra - Gunner
Ghirahim - Swordfighter

Pass 6
Goemon - Swordfighter
Soild Snake - Gunner
Gray Fox - Swordfighter
Shiori Fujisaki - Brawler
Bill Rizer - Gunner

Trophies
Master Kohga
Riju
Saria
Yuga
Linkle
Cia
Vaati

Pretty Bomber
Black Bomber
Max
Bagura

 

[Northsouthmap]

BomberMan Move Set: Taken from SSF2

BomberMan Music:
Main Theme - BomberMan
Area 1 Theme - Super BomberMan
Blue Resort (New Remix) - BomberMan 64
Cell - BomberMan Hero
Planet TechnoPolis - Super BomberMan R

 

[Pupp135]

For the Bomberman moveset, we’ll pick Northsouthmap ’s, and we’ll have Bomber Arena as the Bomberman stage.

In terms of DLC, how does everyone like the line up? Are there stages or fighters that we’d like to see in a Fighters’ Pass 2 or 3? Before we move forward, I can set a poll if veterans or assists should be allowed (I’m thinking of a two veteran limit per pass) and if a third Fighters’ Pass is good? In terms of job formatting, are there any changes that you’d like to see?

Spoiler: DLC Fighters

Excitebike Rider
Leon Kennedy
Sans
2B
Tails
Sidon
Bomberman

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What is your opinion? Vote now: Yes, No

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What is your opinion? Vote now: Yes, No

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[Pupp135]

For Fighters’ Pass 2 (and 3 if applicable, I forgot to send the poll, and I‘ll fix that now), veterans and assists are allowed; however, only two veterans can join per pass.

DLC Job 22: Submit a video game character for Challenger Pass 7.

I’ll nominate Rabbid Peach here as the Mario & Rabbids games came out during the Switch era, and she feels like a more comical pick.

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What is your opinion? Vote now: Yes, No

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[darkvortex]

Doomslayer
Feels like a good addition to start off a pass with, what with a new game coming out soon. Has plenty of weapons and abilities for a varied moveset.

 

[BritishGuy54]

Challenger Pack 7: Alear (Fire Emblem)

It’s time to start paying our dues to Nintendo’s more recent first parties.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Noah and Mio
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 could use some playable representation.

 

[Pupp135]

A Fighters Pass 3 was supported.

Here are the nominations

Pupp135 Rabbid Peach
darkvortex Doomslayer
BritishGuy54 Alear
Northsouthmap Noah and Mio

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Doom Slayer
2. Rabbid Peach
3. Alear