Data Snake: Hitboxes and Frame Data [3.6]

[BND]

...Just finished fishing through the data; does up tilt still have invincibility frames on Snake's right arm from 5-6? Can't test this right now, unfortunately.

EDIT: Just separately tested this. Unlike Cisyphus's claim, utilt clanked with Fox's down-B (unless he did it airborne, which I hadn't considered), so I had Fox and Snake trade nair and utilt, respectively. There was no outprioritization even when Snake's arm was his only exposed part, so probably debunked.

 

[cisyphus]

^no, the PMDT changelog indicate that it doesn't.

 

[Sartron]

...Just finished fishing through the data; does up tilt still have invincibility frames on Snake's right arm from 5-6? Can't test this right now, unfortunately.

^no, the PMDT changelog indicate that it doesn't.

Well, the PSA code still has the invincibility statements there...so I'd assume yes over the changelog.

 

[cisyphus]

Wait for real? Testing now.

Just tried it by having Fox shine on the fifth frame of u-tilt with just Snake's arm in the hitbox radius and the hits trade sooo :\

 

[Jamwa]

is the mortar shell transcendent?

 

[BND]

Not quite sure if you understand the concept of transcendent properly: Transcendental priority attacks basically mean that they don't interact with attack boxes. The mortar "hitbox" is more of a hurtbox detection grab-box, and by default those don't interact with hitboxes.
With that said, the mortar shell itself doesn't actually have a hurtbox.

 

[cisyphus]

"It's the same thing as transcendence basically"

 

[BND]

Well, the PSA code still has the invincibility statements there...so I'd assume yes over the changelog.

Seems like you were right:

Spoiler: Pictures

Snake's arm's definitely in Marth's side-B, which shouldn't (and doesn't) clank.
(Setup was as follows: Pick Marth, roll to side of stage, Side-B once. Roll Snake to that side of stage. Side-B with marth, and up tilt 2 frames later.)

Last picture suggests that you can't actually clank with it, if proof's needed.

...RIP asking for buffs that don't actually exist :<

Note that I also took a picture of 3.0 Snake that shows the limit of his arm invincibility:

Spoiler: 3.0 Snake

so everything seems more or less in order.

 

[bboss]

Most characters have reverse grab hitboxes, however most do not reach this far behind the player.

Snake's jump squat is 6 frames.

Bit late for this but Snake's jumpsquat is actually 5 frames.

 

[Bazkip]

Yo Sartron , looks like Snake's dair has 9 frames frame of l-cancelled landing lag, not 12.

 

[bboss]

Yo Sartron , looks like Snake's dair has 9 frames frame of l-cancelled landing lag, not 12.

yes i think he switched the dair frames for the fair frames

 

[Sartron]

Yo Sartron , looks like Snake's dair has 9 frames frame of l-cancelled landing lag, not 12.

yes i think he switched the dair frames for the fair frames

I suspect that I copy pasted that information from forward air a long time ago. Information is corrected now, thanks.

 

[WhiteCrow]

Does the first hit of forward tilt actually do more shield damage? Stats say 8.4, but I thought attacks on shield did .7x less damage. Same question for Jab.