Starcraft Discussion

[unknownPresence]

ok first dont listen to aplha bc he hates toss

anyway, if ur starting out check out teamliquid. a lot of goodies are on that site. but in general u have to give more info with what u want exactly.

but the biggest tip i can give you for toss IMO, is save as many units as you can. with zerg its not as pressing, and terran only certain units should be protected at all costs. with toss all units are important and serve a purpose.

 

[Mogwai]

keeping zealots doesn't seem like a much bigger deal than Terran keeping Vultures or Zerg keeping Hydralisks (I guess this is irrelevant cause lings are such a throwaway unit in the matchup), but maybe I just feel that way cause I don't know much bout Toss.

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

Starcraft too good.

I just started playing again last month.

No fastest map I prefer to play only iCcup maps.

Bnet account = PokemonMaster_

I main Terran but I can play all the races.

 

[Diddyknight]

fastest map are the best =] you can get a zling rush within 5 min and win rofl

 

[Mogwai]

fastest map are the best =] you can get a zling rush within 5 min and win rofl

*gasp*

in real bw, zling rushes win in 3-4 minutes or you lose 99% of the time.

 

[unknownPresence]

keeping zealots doesn't seem like a much bigger deal than Terran keeping Vultures or Zerg keeping Hydralisks (I guess this is irrelevant cause lings are such a throwaway unit in the matchup), but maybe I just feel that way cause I don't know much bout Toss.

hmm, ur right and wrong. b4 you fully set-up your second expo, toss requires a all units they produce. i think it was nal-ra and chojja (i think) shows that when zerg attacked his expo. and it took every unit he had available.
i could also be wrong since i dont play terran or zerg anymore, but terran usually has other things to defend with, and zerg is usually pumping units anyway

fastest map are the best =] you can get a zling rush within 5 min and win rofl

and just fyi, u can pump lings out in under 2 minutes (over 2 groups), not sure what build ur doing.

 

[Alphicans]

As terran, if you lose your first or second tank, you can pretty much say GG.

 

[Frolossus]

This weekend I have nothing to do if anyone wants to play a few rounds with me on iccup.
My username there is frolossus

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

fastest map are the best =] you can get a zling rush within 5 min and win rofl

Bad.

10 bads.

Lets play lol.

 

[darkNES386]

New laptop... doesn't have them installed.

I'm way out of town right now with some fellow students. I'm looking to play starcraft with someone else here and his disc for original got totaled on the plane ride here so we can't even do that.

Apparently blizzard offered a free downloadable version of the games, but it seems they want the key (which I do have at home that I can find out) , but when I go to their online battle.net store it wants me to put money down for the game.

nvm, problem solved

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

lets play darkness.

 

[unknownPresence]

aplha, ya i got ya covered, i said protect certain units which was a reference to tanks and or medics depending on the build i guess.

and id play with ya guys but currently no internet ><

 

[Alphicans]

Haven't heard that idea before >_>. It won't happen .

 

[unknownPresence]

ya there are alrdy so many leagues for that.
too bad tho

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

Anyone feel free to get my aim of my profile and message me for a game, I am west coast United States in Northern California.

 

[Frolossus]

any tips for pvt?
this seems to be my worst match up by far ;-;

 

[Alphicans]

As protoss?

 

[Frolossus]

yes, me playing protoss

 

[DCLXVI]

any tips for pvt?
this seems to be my worst match up by far ;-;

as in overall strategy? specific BO's? How to counter strategies?
And teamliquid can answer any question we cannot

 

[Frolossus]

an effective BO would be nice
also i never seem to have the right units in my armies, what should i make lots of to fight terran?

 

[Alphicans]

Early game composition is mostly dragoons. Mid game composition is dragoonz/speed lots + high/dark templars (limit these to a smaller amount). Late game it'll be either carriers, or aribters+lots of speedlots+dragoons+high templars.

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

an effective BO would be nice
also i never seem to have the right units in my armies, what should i make lots of to fight terran?

frolossus i added you on aim.

i play all the races but terran is my main if you want to play sometime.

 

[unknownPresence]

Early game composition is mostly dragoons. Mid game composition is dragoonz/speed lots + high/dark templars (limit these to a smaller amount). Late game it'll be either carriers, or aribters+lots of speedlots+dragoons+high templars.

this is accurate

but again its all relative, u hav to scout. if u know what ur opponent is doing its easy to plan

 

[Mogwai]

everyone see MSL finals between Flash and Jaedong?

 

[unknownPresence]

everyone see MSL finals between Flash and Jaedong?

NO!! ><
is it uploaded anywhere?

 

[Mogwai]

SPOILER FREE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX0wQt6gmOQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt0TRIWydBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_AdKktRlSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84f9vfWMR6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8

for future reference, this channel has everything pro-scraft related like, next day:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Jon747

if you get confused about game 3, read this spoiler post-watching:

Spoiler

Flash blew a fuse and both players and all obs momentarily lost power. KeSPA ruled the game a victory for Jaedong after 30 minutes of watching VODs and deliberating about whether his advantage at that point was substantial enough to merrit a victory rather than a re-game. There is a metric *** ton of drama going on in the starcraft community over this, so if you're interested, you can check out infinity million threads on teamliquid.net for further analysis and bithcing and moaning.

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

SPOILER FREE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX0wQt6gmOQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt0TRIWydBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_AdKktRlSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84f9vfWMR6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8

for future reference, this channel has everything pro-scraft related like, next day:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Jon747

if you get confused about game 3, read this spoiler post-watching:

Spoiler

Flash blew a fuse and both players and all obs momentarily lost power. KeSPA ruled the game a victory for Jaedong after 30 minutes of watching VODs and deliberating about whether his advantage at that point was substantial enough to merrit a victory rather than a re-game. There is a metric *** ton of drama going on in the starcraft community over this, so if you're interested, you can check out infinity million threads on teamliquid.net for further analysis and bithcing and moaning.

I watched it live.

I think the black out game was CLEARLY in Flashs favor, he had momentum and control.

IDK.


Mogwai lets SC it up buddy.

 

[Mogwai]

I watched it live.

Spoiler

I think the black out game was CLEARLY in Flashs favor, he had momentum and control.

IDK.

Mogwai lets SC it up buddy.

spoilers dude, it was like a few days ago. I'm still at work and smashing later tonight and haven't played seriously in like, 4 months or something, but I can theoretically play on like, I dunno, sunday maybe?

Spoiler

The blackout game was irrefutably in Jaedong's favor. The only question is how far ahead he was.

 

[unknownPresence]

all right nice, thnx man

 

[Alphicans]

Anyone who thinks it was in flash's favor is a total scrub. Harsh, yes, but it's the truth. Flash's ONLY chance at winning was to take down that expansion, and he failed, it was GG within 30 seconds regardless.

 

[Mogwai]

eh, Flash doesn't type out easily, it was GG in 5 minutes, but it's not like JD would have the army necessary to completely overrun him in 30 seconds.

 

[Alphicans]

He had a mineral expansion only, which just got built. 30 seconds was a bit of an exaggeration, but 5 minutes is a stretch I think. 1-2 mins top, but JD had the win no problem.

 

[Mogwai]

yea, w/e, who cares about the timing, JD had won the war of attrition and it was just a matter of exploiting his considerable economic advantage.

 

[Alphicans]

Agreed. I just find it funny how people can say that Flash had the advantage. They were fooled by what the camera was showing I guess, and weren't paying attention to Flash's base. Momentum means nothing when it's all in one small point.

 

[Mogwai]

momentum means nothing when you have few irradiates and they have 2-5 ultras

 

[Alphicans]

****ing ultras. They are the lamest unit ever.

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

WTF

ULTRAS ARE GIANT ZERGLINGS.


Absolute ****.


They just punch ****, with their big ugly faces.


AIM me for a game of SC anybody.

 

[DCLXVI]

Wow, I tried playing a few games on iccup and got destroyed... I guess that's what happens when you don't play for a good 6-8 months. Anyone extremely bad who wants to play a few games AIM me. I don't think I could take a real Pokemon Master, but I'll try later.

 

[Mogwai]

Wow, I tried playing a few games on iccup and got destroyed... I guess that's what happens when you don't play for a good 6-8 months. Anyone extremely bad who wants to play a few games AIM me. I don't think I could take a real Pokemon Master, but I'll try later.

i actually might be up for that after work I haven't played seriously in a solid 3-4 months at least.

 

[Frolossus]

this, is an epic match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S0saAo2O30&feature=sub