Survivor: Gabon - featuring Melee champion Ken

[Anth0ny]

I predict Randy to go out next. That preview was just hilarious."I think he's insane" lolz.

Corinne would probably be next, and if Ken, Krystal, Susie, Matty and Sugar stay together, they'll vote out Bob. That's when it gets interesting. Ken+Krystal are the very tightest, then I'd say Matty and Susie are right up there too. Sugar is obviously the one to keep an eye on with her idol and all.

The only two ways to get rid of her would be:

1. Make her give up the idol, which I believe this late in the game, isn't going to happen.
2. FULLY lie to her and make it really believable. Ken and Matty need to pull her aside and tell her that they're going to eliminate...say...Susie. But then they **** her over. At this point I think it's the only way they're going to be able to trick her.

I must admit that I'm somewhat scared for Ken. He's kinda starting to get that "snake" persona that Ace had, and we all know what happened there. Ken and Krystal need to stick together no matter what, and I think that in order to survive after Randy, Corinne and Bob are gone (according to my theory that is), they need to get Susie on their side as opposed to Matty and Sugar. I know those two are really, really close right now that that Sugar is pissed at Ken because of the whole Ace fiasco. So I wouldn't be surprised if later in the game that Sugar doesn't hesitate to pull the trigger on Ken.

It's all about Ken and Isai right now...I mean Ken and Krystal. Again, I'm really interested to see what goes down once Randy, Corinne and Bob are eliminated. I mean, they should be eliminated soonest, right? It's only logical really...

How exciting ^.^

 

[Wind Owl]

Oh, one last thing... LMAO @ Randy making SURE that everyone knew he voted for Crystal. Well played, lol.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

at the very least, if it is down to the final four, they can convince her to vote off person A, but instead of having all 3 of them vote for sugar, 2 vote for her and 1 for the last person without immunity, to force a tie in case she wises up and uses the idol. and they need to pray she doesnt get immunity.

 

[Xsyven]

Ken voting off Charlie is bad in the fact that Charlie was sort of innocent, but really, with him out of the picture, people won't blink an eye at voting off Randy and Corinne, since they're both power *****es.

Once those two are gone, they'll sadly have to vote off Bob, and no one's gonna like that. Bob's fake idol is completely useless, since Fang 2 knows that Sugar has it.

That's where the blindsides come. They'll have to convince Sugar that they're voting Kenny, then all vote Sugar to void the use of the immunity idol. But the same could happen to anyone. Once all of Kota's gone, things are going to get dirty, and unless Ken wins immunity challenges, there's no way for sure that he'll get anywhere.

 

[Sharky]

If Bob's smart he'll try to distance himself from Onion. He might have a chance, then.

 

[RoyalRook]

If you want to really think about the state of things, Marcus made a major blunter and power shift by attacking Kenny. Marcus had absolutely no significant advantage to gain by voting off Kenny. All he had to do was to vote off Suize, a decision that no one would have minded. If Marcus had done that, he would have a shot to form a mini alliance with Crystal, b/c of their social connections, and the fact that Crystal is a player, so she would blindside Kenny in an instant with the lure of been a part of the majority at the time. Sure, the onion alliance would never accept Crystal, but that has nothing to do with Marcus. She would have being just another victim that got to be voted off before him. If anything, Kenny didn't do much, it was Marcus' stupidity that gave Kenny's current position of power.

What Kenny needs to do now (in game's time, lol), is to keep Randy in the game as long as possible, so Crystal would buffer him til the end. But, clearly Randy is too dumb and useless to survive much longer, so when Randy is getting the boot eventually, Kenny needs to blindside Crystal asap. The reason for that is Matt told on Kenny, so Sugar (the immunity holder) trusts Crystal over Kenny. The safest way to the final three is to let the immunity holder carry you through, which is what Matt doing. With Crystal gone, Ken would clear the way for a real final three alliance till the bitter end. That is assuming that he doesn't have a special feeling for the old, nasty looking Mexican hag. He doesn't, right?

 

[thesage]

What nobody realizes is that BEFORE Crystal told Ken that he was going to be voted off, Ken was already thinking about taking out Marcus by swinging over Susie. Listen to what he says before Crystal starts speaking in that scene.

Randy is going next IMO.

 

[GenericKen]

Ken lying to his tribe about Charlie being the Kota mastermind probably won't hurt him.

It's the best possible lie to make: one without any evidence. If he gets found out, he could have just been mistaken, and come out looking like a weaker mind and less of a threat.


And there's a grain of truth to it. Without Charlie, Kota has no unifying force left.

 

[infomon]

Ken's in a very precarious spot, since everyone (except Randy, Corrine, and I guess Bob) knows that he's the new mastermind. "Cut off the head of the snake" -- that's been happening since day 1.

It was rather brilliant of him to axe Charlie, though. I'm amazed he was able to convince them all to do that. Charlie is the only Onion member that wasn't actively hated; noone could make an alliance with Randy and Corinne this late in the game, but Charlie could have charmed Matty and Sugar. He'd already come real close. Now, as much as Sugar hates Ken, she loathes Randy and Corinne moreso.

The only danger to Ken right now is immunity... and Sugar's mistrust. But he should be safe for another episode or two.

 

[GenericKen]

Well the real problem that Ken has is that it looks like he's going to be personally responsible for voting out every single member of the jury, and the jury members are eventually going to figure it out.

The final 3 would have to look like Ken-Crystal-Suzie for him to win that vote. Even then...

 

[infomon]

Hmm, good point.

The final 3 would have to look like Ken-Crystal-Suzie for him to win that vote.

I think that's exactly what he's going for.... but if Crystal or Suzie actually get knocked out (immunity hax?), then Ken has a real problem.

 

[MASAHIROx]

Randy played the game like an idiot. Showing hate and disrespect to future million dollar votes is not the way to play at this point. Im gonna LOVE watching the next episode and seeing Randy sweat under the pressure and insecurity.

Matty is still my favorite followed by Ken

 

[alia]

All of the Survivors get paid. The longer they stay on, the more they get paid.

As for the spoiler comment, just don't look at this thread until after you see the episode. It's what I do.

 

[sHy)(gUy]

*possible spoilers*

after seeing a different preview clip of the next episode(not shown on tv), I now fear that ken will be the next voted out.... Randy basicly becomes delusinal and insane trying to be the new leader(king) of Gabon knowing of the alliance against him, he'll try to turn the game into his own and somehow fool ken into playing the game this way.... Krystal betrays ken for siding with randys new outlook on the game.... everyone figures out ken is responsible for all the blindsides..... and see him as a threat.... how strong is the alliance between ken/crystal/matty??? will ken be the next to be blindsided, u can see the fear in his glue speech in the prievew, like he knows sumthings wrong..... does randy's plan work or not? if it does its most likely at ken's expense....

just speculation could be tottaly off....

but try searching for the clip on youtube..... Its basicly randy becoming drunk and delusional having fun with everyone trying to become one with Gabon or sumthing....

 

[Xanthyr]

Spoiler, maybe? I guess don't look if you don't want to risk.





It's been mentioned, but I'd like to illustrate more of how I saw it.

Though unprovoked, Ken got Charlie on the block. What this did is, as mentioned, an act without evidence unless people start chatting it up with each other and find out what Ken had said, but again, it'd make him look like an easy to push pawn, much alike to what Corinne said of Sugar, "Man, she's a moron!"

Again, with that said, if you look at it like a list of priority

Voted off:

Randy
Krystal
Bob
Corrine
x
x
x

These seem to be the people that are wished off the most for varying reasons, despite my massive respect for Bob. I love that bow-tie.

Anyways, these are the people that are going to be pushed off by what you are all saying, and some reactions on the show. By Ken getting a pretty neutral person voted off, he got rid of a person that would have otherwise been a hard choice for later. But if he does this again and again, then it is going to bite back on him, because if the common enemy is pressured, they'll form an impromptu alliance and work together.

If you analyze if further, he sniped a voice of reason, which makes him more credible and enjoyable, being a commodity among hostiles.

The best thing to do now for Ken, is to do some wicked MGS mindscrew and end up making other members do what he just did and even convince them that they thought of it, and then act as a follower.

A person without a voice is a person you feel you have power over.

A person with a voice is someone more likely to disagree or be different, and we all knows what happens then. -points to the top of the list-

 

[TK Wolf]

From the little preview clip I saw, it looks like Randy will try to convince sugar and matty to turn on ken-crystal-suzie. He was telling them that ken-crystal-suzie will be the final 3 if matty+sugar don't change things up.

Ken did a VERY stupid thing by not taking Randy out. Randy is probably bis biggest worry now, and especially given how much sugar hates him, it would have been easy to knock him out. Instead he risked loosing his strongest ally on a personal grudge against Charlie, who is probably one of the least threatening players.

And with how vocal and noticed Ken is getting.. he's setting himself up for a blindside. Not to mention that if sugar realizes ken was lying, she'll turn on him.

 

[Turbo Ether]

From the little preview clip I saw, it looks like Randy will try to convince sugar and matty to turn on ken-crystal-suzie. He was telling them that ken-crystal-suzie will be the final 3 if matty+sugar don't change things up.

Ken did a VERY stupid thing by not taking Randy out. Randy is probably bis biggest worry now, and especially given how much sugar hates him, it would have been easy to knock him out. Instead he risked loosing his strongest ally on a personal grudge against Charlie, who is probably one of the least threatening players.

And with how vocal and noticed Ken is getting.. he's setting himself up for a blindside. Not to mention that if sugar realizes ken was lying, she'll turn on him.

Um, Charlie was one of the MOST threatening players. Major player in one of the two strongest alliances, and a physically capable player overall.

There's a chance that Ken can still take advantage of Sugar's hate for Randy. It would also be nice if Corrine's dislike towards Sugar became known.

Also, I would like to sleep with Sugar.

And have you guys noticed that Ken does the fist-to-fist smasher pound with Bob, when Bob performs well? It's not something I typically see non-Smashers do.

 

[Stormin' Mormon]

If you want to really think about the state of things, Marcus made a major blunter and power shift by attacking Kenny. Marcus had absolutely no significant advantage to gain by voting off Kenny. All he had to do was to vote off Suize, a decision that no one would have minded. If Marcus had done that, he would have a shot to form a mini alliance with Crystal, b/c of their social connections, and the fact that Crystal is a player, so she would blindside Kenny in an instant with the lure of been a part of the majority at the time. Sure, the onion alliance would never accept Crystal, but that has nothing to do with Marcus. She would have being just another victim that got to be voted off before him. If anything, Kenny didn't do much, it was Marcus' stupidity that gave Kenny's current position of power.

Doubt it. As soon as Crystal got wind of Marcus wanting to knock out Ken, Crystal got indignant to the camera, because she'd be losing her biggest ally while Marcus lost no one. Crystal isn't that stupid, to blindside Kenny in hopes of joining the Kota 6.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Ken voting off Charlie is bad in the fact that Charlie was sort of innocent, but really, with him out of the picture, people won't blink an eye at voting off Randy and Corinne, since they're both power *****es.

Once those two are gone, they'll sadly have to vote off Bob, and no one's gonna like that. Bob's fake idol is completely useless, since Fang 2 knows that Sugar has it.

That's where the blindsides come. They'll have to convince Sugar that they're voting Kenny, then all vote Sugar to void the use of the immunity idol. But the same could happen to anyone. Once all of Kota's gone, things are going to get dirty, and unless Ken wins immunity challenges, there's no way for sure that he'll get anywhere.

Wow, I didn't know you watched survivor Xsyven.

But yes, unless Ken here does some serious mindgaming around Sugar, i'm afraid that he might possibly be next in line to be going home, even if Bob's Hoax Idol isn't used.

let's just hope there is indeed another immunity challenhge on the line and Ken would to win it at all costs if it means he wants to stay in the final 3.

Crystal got saved last night due to Ken but Randy's psycho just took over so things are going to get nasty for the Susie/Ken/Crystal alliance.

 

[Turbo Ether]

If Ken doesn't win immunity, he needs to somehow become liked by everyone and play down his role in the game. Though, Crystal's big mouth probably makes her seem like more of a threat than Ken, at the moment.

Also, it's probably in Bob's best interest to Ally with Sugar and Matty. Once Randy and Corrine are gone, it would be Bob, Sugar, Matty vs Ken, Crystal and Suzie. Sugar and Matty need to break the Ken alliance, Bob could assist. Their alliance could also mindgame with the immunity idol.

Ken needs to blindside Crystal if Randy and Corrine go. Matty seemingly likes Ken, and could convince Sugar to keep him around. Vote off Crystal and Suzie. Top 4 would then be Ken, Matty, Sugar, and Bob. Vote off Bob, and Ken makes top 3, which is good, right?

 

[choknater]

LOL WHAT?! Charlie got eliminated?!

 

[OmegaXXII]

So you mean to tell me that you want Sugar, Matt and Ken in the top 3, hmm maybe it should be like this

Ken
Matt
Crystal (or Bob who I seemingly like due to his epic hoax idol)

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Cause it's nice to have some way to express my excitement, and I do so by posting in this thread and seeing everyone else's reaction.

And I don't necessarily read the posts. Just scrolling down the page, you'll pick up bits and pieces from the previous posts. Obviously I'll read the posts while I'm posting, but it's hard to differentiate between who's posting about what happened just now, or who's still posting about what happened a few hours ago.

You should try to understand where i'm coming from with this

There's this button next to threads that says "go to first unread post". I highly recommend it.

Ken staying tight with Crystal is such a smart move. She is incredibly mouthy and draws all the heat away from himself, when he's really the one who's pulling the strings.

Also I DEMAND a gif of Ken+Matty=i've missed you so much *tender embrace*

 

[victra♥]

There's this button next to threads that says "go to first unread post". I highly recommend it.

Thanks for the heads up. x)

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

yep.
I have Tivo and sometimes I don't watch the episode until a couple days after it airs and then have to go back and read like 15 new pages.... >_<

 

[smasher32]

Question: is there only one immunity idol on exile island?

Also, ken still has some epic mindgames. IMO, I think he's in a good position if he tones down the snaking a bit.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Can someone please explain to me how Marcus is not 1) gay or 2) leading Charlie on
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/surviv...euYh27dkXtv9qrP7jJkflVm9pSV4w&play=true&cc=93
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/surviv...Sc8CwHl0gu6ABQZtTomdCQPry22vz&play=true&cc=93

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Here is that wonderful conversation about Marcus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI5l5GQzOk0

I love Ken's responses. They essentially translate to NO JOHNS.

I'm gonna try this at a smash tournament after I've been eliminated. "Well, I've never complained this entire tournament. I deserve to stay in it."

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

I freaking love Matty so much. His super grin and eye winks are top tier.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Here is that wonderful conversation about Marcus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI5l5GQzOk0

I love Ken's responses. They essentially translate to NO JOHNS.

I'm gonna try this at a smash tournament after I've been eliminated. "Well, I've never complained this entire tournament. I deserve to stay in it."

Go figure, if Ken does why not the great Buzz as well..

 

[choknater]

Ken is freaking amazing. Best player for the past 3 episodes.

 

[XtacyfalcoX]

i feel hes been jinxed now lol

 

[choknater]

Well if he keeps speaking up and feels too confident it can surely backfire.

 

[Boofy!]

lol "kenny"

 

[BrazeGoesMoo]

Yeah it looks like it can backfire.

Anyone got any insight behind this quote:
"Next time on...Survivor. One of the best episodes of the season. No hype. Pure truth." - Jeff Probst, from his Entertainment Weekly blog.

Best episode ever? What can happen.. oh noes~

 

[OmegaXXII]

Well hasn't he been a good player from the beginning? especially that challenge that had the Matty+Ken combo.

 

[XtacyfalcoX]

speaking up and being confident is usaullys everyones down fall

 

[Stormin' Mormon]

Here is that wonderful conversation about Marcus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI5l5GQzOk0

I love Ken's responses. They essentially translate to NO JOHNS.

I'm gonna try this at a smash tournament after I've been eliminated. "Well, I've never complained this entire tournament. I deserve to stay in it."

XD. Good luck.

Also, to others:
Yes, Randy is racist. He despises the human race. =p

 

[kr3wman]

 

[choknater]

HAHAHAHHA MATTY IS TOO GOOD!!!!
hahahah great gifs