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Tactical Bull****

clace

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Wow. Who are you to tell others to stop naming?
And hey, if you`re jealous that you didn`t name the move first then please don`t spam us here in the forums.

By the way, you should care less about people coining terms & concentrate on your grammar.

kthxbai!
This post just named a new Advanced Tech.

Super-Ultra-Retardedly-Special-Awesome-Fail-Dashing.
 

Devil7

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I wouldn't really worry about it though this crap happened when melee hit and now its brawls turn. This sort of thing always happens when a new popular game comes out. I do however think it may be more prevelent because all the noobs added to it because of the popularity of melee.
 

Witchking_of_Angmar

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A fate worst than the most fowl, cruel pits of the dark tomb known as the lake of sulfur, Hades, or Hell. The bowels of torment rejoice at the sight of our lament and praise its masters who wrought forth such a culmination of condensed evil. Those who find comfort in such a place should be restrained as they are mentally unstable and posses the ability to wipe an entire family of joy and love. Such things are unearthly, inhumane, and devil-some in nature and existence.

Woe is me, for I wander such places.
I wish I had more sig space.

*Cries*
 

Yuna

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This is probably just a case of "inner circle" syndrome. All of us who have been here for a while, or even from the start, don't understand the new people. They are completely different from us. They don't act the same way we do. they don't try to learn the same way we did.

But god ****ed it wouldn't hurt for them to give it a try! Give it any try for that matter! GB2 Disney games...
It's not the Inner Circle-syndrome. It's the anti-Stupidity-syndrome.

It's just that people who've been playing Smash competitively for a while have usually learned and know better (though some don't). This is why the majority of thread-starters for inane tech-threads are new players.

Everyone just continue the harsh criticism like in Candy's Turnaround/Reverse B topic. Eventually, the idiots will be weeded out.
The thing is that some people are just too stupid to realize they were wrong. Candy and what's-his-name took offense, declared us all wrong and that they would never post new discovered techs by themselves ever again.

So it was kinda of a half-victory. But they didn't learn their lesson. They still think they were right. And this is the problem. I've tried it the nice way, the quasi-nice way, the not-so-nice-way and the harsh way. None have worked that well.

Stupidity is just too deeply rooted in some people.
 

Twin Dreams

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The thing is that some people are just too stupid to realize they were wrong. Candy and what's-his-name took offense, declared us all wrong and that they would never post new discovered techs by themselves ever again.

So it was kinda of a half-victory. But they didn't learn their lesson. They still think they were right. And this is the problem. I've tried it the nice way, the quasi-nice way, the not-so-nice-way and the harsh way. None have worked that well.

Stupidity is just too deeply rooted in some people.



At least it's hilarious to read your posts.
 

da K.I.D.

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Just know that the real, intelligent smash player will use the AT's that i found on somedude's sig.

Because real smash players us logic dashing and stupidity canceling
 
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Everyone just continue the harsh criticism like in Candy's Turnaround/Reverse B topic. Eventually, the idiots will be weeded out.
you're in pittsburgh. You've been snow free for appx. 1 month, give or take. I bet you have no less than 50 weeds in your lawn right now, as you are reading this.
 

Twin Dreams

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you're in pittsburgh. You've been snow free for appx. 1 month, give or take. I bet you have no less than 50 weeds in your lawn right now, as you are reading this.



Well.... I won't actually go outside because my crazy, diaper-wearing neighbor is on her porch, and she always tries to bum **** off me, but you're probably right.
 

Anarkex

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I sandwich-skidded to a moonshine dipslide and out-harrowed that noob from a z-walk over the edge.

Then I just fsmashed 'im. I'm no showoff.
 

ShadowLink84

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This topic is full of win.

OP I hereby granted you the medal of pwnage.
Everyone who disagrees for an illogical/stupid/********/flawed reason must die.
Oh and Yuna I am copying your sig. Maybe something good will happen ya?
 

uremog

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holy crap that has been annoying the **** outta me for the longest time.
people need to stop thinking everything is an advanced tech
and people need to stop naming things for no reason
AND when things get named, it needs to not be ********

i know people want to have their name on a move, and that people have AT withdrawals
but seriously, too much crap
 

Rapid_Assassin

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People like to get stupid things named after themselves. That's why I don't name any of my techniques.
 

ADHD

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Wow. Who are you to tell others to stop naming?
And hey, if you`re jealous that you didn`t name the move first then please don`t spam us here in the forums.

By the way, you should care less about people coining terms & concentrate on your grammar.

kthxbai!
****ing hippy! The original poster is a god for addressing this!
 

DuB 22

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QD Approach would have been fine. The guy who named it had to have played a lot of Guilty Gear where Sol Badguy's Grand Viper could be force cancelled so you could just use it as an approach rather than just an attack.

I have to disagree with you on the way you define a technique however, as you define it in arguing that Ike's Quickdraw as an approach is not a technique. You argue that because it's based around the features of the move it's not technical but this is inherently flawed. By that logic the only thing tactical anybody could do would be to develop something by scratch. Following suit, fastfalling is not tactical even though you call it as such because "it's jsut a feature of falling." I could equally argue that "you fall, you can push a direction while you fall or you can hold down while you fall, nothing technical there."

A technical skill by definition is using procedures to achieve a desired result. Any dictoinary includes this defintion of such. It doesn't have to be something original but using what you are given in order to get what you need out of it. Using Ike's QD as an approach rather than an attack thereby fits as you are using the mechanics of the move to get closer to the enemy without committing to an attack that would leave lag. The same can be said for a lot of combos developed or even things like Toon Link's "Short hop double arrow." It's using what is available to you to achieve a specific goal. The way you define a technique would mean that you can't have such a thing as a "technique" in sword fighting or any other sport. As sword fighting the blade was designed to slash, stab or parry, and that no matter what you are doing you are eseentially doing one of those thre things; howver "sword techniques" are putting your own twist as to what the tool allows.

I agree with you that there are a lot of unecessary names to these techniques players names and it results in a lot of unecessary confusion and a language in and of itself that requires new players to learn before they can derive any benefit from posts or guides but your definition as to what is a technique is noticably narrow.
This guy couldn't be more right. I've seen the dash cancelled upsmashes being coined as boost smashing, which is fine because it IS an AT, but I see other people referring to it as the new wavedash. :mad: Ike's QD is a tactical approach, just as Wario's bike is for projectile spammers. Ewww at Craq walking and unreasonable statements.
 

ph00tbag

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This guy couldn't be more right. I've seen the dash cancelled upsmashes being coined as boost smashing, which is fine because it IS an AT, but I see other people referring to it as the new wavedash. :mad: Ike's QD is a tactical approach, just as Wario's bike is for projectile spammers. Ewww at Craq walking and unreasonable statements.
Usmash out of a dash is in no way anything resembling an advanced technique. A guy down my hall picked it up after playing for a few minutes. To call it an AT is to forget what an AT means. ATs should take a measure of timing and practice to pull off consistently, and this is no more difficult than tapping up on the C-stick while you run. That's not advanced, and it doesn't deserve a name.
 

DeathNote

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I agree with the OP...

Omg! I found a new technique! When you tap the control stick hard in a direction you run! I will call this AT moonshiningsupercompetitivefreeforallfinisher!
 

behemoth

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****ing hippy! The original poster is a god for addressing this!
Woah![/ Blossom reference]. Now, this guy obviously has issues, and stuff. But don't let's denigrate a whole section of the populace by associating him with hippies. It's just mean to stereotype the guy based off of just one offensive, pedantic, d-bag post. Only through removal of such generalization can we come to understanding!

Anyways, it's obvious he's emo, his text is gray and centered, like in all his poems about black flowers blossoming in his heart that no one will ever see because he is ignored and invisible to those around him because life is pain!


~behemoth


^^hippie
 

Eriko

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Wow. Who are you to tell others to stop naming?
And hey, if you`re jealous that you didn`t name the move first then please don`t spam us here in the forums.

By the way, you should care less about people coining terms & concentrate on your grammar.

kthxbai!
Hey, look at me! I use graves instead of apostrophes because I`m so cool, and my grammar far surpasses anyone`s in this thread. It doesn`t matter what the hell I do as long as my grammar is better than the person that I'm responding to! Rofl kthxbai.

People need to come up with better attacks than that.

I agree that all this nonsense about naming a simple attack is lame... especially when the name its given doesn't even have anything to do with the attack (DLX HIT YEAH). I hope people don't expect me to remember all the random **** people come up with for these attacks.
 

behemoth

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Hey, look at me! I use graves instead of apostrophes because I`m so cool, and my grammar far surpasses anyone`s in this thread. It doesn`t matter what the hell I do as long as my grammar is better than the person that I'm responding to! Rofl kthxbai.

People need to come up with better attacks than that.

I agree that all this nonsense about naming a simple attack is lame... especially when the name its given doesn't even have anything to do with the attack (DLX HIT YEAH). I hope people don't expect me to remember all the random **** people come up with for these attacks.
graves, huh? Emo is so ironic.

The utter failure of naming posts is the fact that even if someone were to find the replacement for wavedashing and come up with what they thought was a cool name, chances are the community at-large would settle on another.

Much better to be humble.
 

Syde7

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Amen. These are the only AT's that exist in brawl:

Logic Dashing
Wavethinking
Intelligence Cancelling
Stupidity Cancelling

/end AT section of "Brawl AT Primer"

There are waaay too many quotes about it to single out individually so I'll just throw my five cents in.

People just seem to have no regard for common sense. They are too enamoured with the prospect of 'being the guy who discovered wavedashing' to let rationality shine through. They develop some little trick on their own that works for their friends- and instead of perusing the character forums or other appropriate section- feel the need to post it.

Their heart is in the right place mostly- they just go about it ALL wrong. They think "I didn't see a thread on this" is a way to cover their arses. The thing is, there's probably not a thread on it FOR A REASON. Reason being- its common knowledge.

I think the whole 'naming stuff after themselves' or 'naming stuff in general' is an attempt to gain notoriety to some degree. They realize that they aren't going to be as good as the well-known smashers and such, so they figure "I'll just find something out, and name it- and then I'll be well known".

Like Mow said essentially in his lil' rhyme... if you keep your mouth shut, your eyes and ears open, your fingers fast, and your weekends free- you can be as good as you want.

I've long since accepted the fact that I'm not going to win a huge tournament, or be well known- and that's ok. I come here and get in depth and stuff with the characters and match ups and mechanics because its fun. Its a way to make the game more fun for me. My dedication is limited to that extent. The random scrubs that have 4 posts, or 35325 posts after 1 month see it the exact opposite. They think the key to winning is just finding random @$$ buttom combinations or supposed 'Advanced Techniques' as opposed to a rational approach to the game.... and that's why they do it.

As an aside- I think now is the time to let the cat out of the bag... I have won 13 tournaments in a row using this new, super radical advanced technique. I call it the "Razerswitch". Basically, when things are going bad in a match, and your way behind- the best way to come back is to hit "Start+L+R+A+Start"
You'll instantly take all of the opponent's remaining stocks.
 

adumbrodeus

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This guy couldn't be more right. I've seen the dash cancelled upsmashes being coined as boost smashing, which is fine because it IS an AT, but I see other people referring to it as the new wavedash. :mad: Ike's QD is a tactical approach, just as Wario's bike is for projectile spammers. Ewww at Craq walking and unreasonable statements.
That's not boost smashing, dash attack canceled up smashes is boost smashing.
 
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