The BlazBlue Thread: all the imports!

[Minato]

Imma cheer for Minato in the PS3 tournament cuz he's a cool guy and sometimes visits me in the Utah thread. Spelt is my brony for Xbox cuz he loves the plot.

Haha, thanks XD. I'll try to not disappoint.

 

[arturefo]

Haha, I was actually in Porto Alegre for a short while. But mainly in Rio and Salvador. I didn't think that there would be BB players down there. :o

yes.unfortunally im the only bb player i known in porto alegre,but someday i'll introduce blazblue to my friends.hehe

 

[Spelt]

Imma cheer for Minato in the PS3 tournament cuz he's a cool guy and sometimes visits me in the Utah thread. Spelt is my brony for Xbox cuz he loves the plot.

now i'm going to lose.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I've been at the cottage the past 2 days, any bracket updates?

 

[Crusayer]

Anyone up for some more matches `-`.

 

[Minato]

Anyone up for some more matches `-`.

I'm up for some matches. I'll be on PSN real soon.

 

[Crusayer]

Thanks for the matches Minato. I didn't even break a throw once in those almost 40 matches ._____.

Also sorry for all those really random attacks that shouldn't hit LOL. 6B anti-air hahaha.

 

[Minato]

Thanks for the matches Minato. I didn't even break a throw once in those almost 40 matches ._____.

GGs. I had to get lucky on all my throw breaks.

I really need to get rid of my bad habits lol.

Edit: Don't worry, I was random too. It helps make your opponent respect things.
And yeah, wth. 6B anti air hit me out of j2C LOL

 

[Jam Stunna]

Imma cheer for Minato in the PS3 tournament cuz he's a cool guy and sometimes visits me in the Utah thread. Spelt is my brony for Xbox cuz he loves the plot.

My money is on Minato to win it.

I contacted Raziek via PM as soon as the bracket update went up, but I haven't heard anything back yet.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Anyone heard from Werekill?

 

[Crusayer]

I played him one casual match and then he said he had to go.

=T

 

[Raziek]

My money is on Minato to win it.

I contacted Raziek via PM as soon as the bracket update went up, but I haven't heard anything back yet.

Sorry about that Jam, was kinda busy. Are you free sometime tomorrow?

 

[Jam Stunna]

Not until around this time tomorrow. Does that work for you?

 

[Lythium]

Yo, Crusayer, your Makoto is pretty stellar, and I'm thinking of picking her up for reals.

Could you direct me to some optimal/practical combos? I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[Minato]

My money is on Minato to win it.

Uh, we'll see lol. I don't know how your Litchi is in CS2, but I'm afraid of Crusayer's Makoto at the moment.

 

[Rutger]

I lose to Yamada 0-2.

 

[Raziek]

Not until around this time tomorrow. Does that work for you?

I think probably, yeah.

 

[Crusayer]

Army of Noels turning to an army of Makotos?!

I actually don't know anywhere that has all the combo listings. I learned all my combos from videos. What you typically find out though for Makoto's combos is that all her drives are roughly interchangeable. As such you can always modify your combo slightly for your own comfort. You might lose out on positioning yourself into the next drive however.

Assume all D attacks are level 3 unless otherwise stated.
* means delay
(66) means it's optional depending on your distance away from your opponent.

Most Practical Combos

1. Corner: 2A 5B 5CC 6BC 5D 66 2C 214B~D 2C 2D 2C 214B~B dj j.D 66 236A~D 214B~D
2. Midscreen: 2A 5B 5CC 6BC 214A~CCCCCCC
3. Corner Grab: B+C 6A 2D 2C 214B~D 2C 214A~D (44) 6A 5D 66 2C 214B~B dj j.D 66 236A~D 214B~D

Combo List:

Spoiler

Midscreen
Off 5A / 2A: (Alternative starters: 6A, 2B, 5B, 6B, 5C)

1. 2A 5B 5CC 6BC 214A~CCCCCCC (mash lol)
   • If by the end of the combo reaches corner: 5A 6A j.B j.D 5D 2D 2C 214B~B dj j.B 623C~D
   • RC combo: 214A~CCCCC RC 2D 66 2C 214B~D (66) 2C 214B~B dj j.D (66) 236A~D [j.D / 214B~D]
2. 2A 5B 5C 6C 214B~A j.B dj * j.B * 623C~D(whiff) 5B 6A j.B dj ender
   • If j.D carries to corner: j.D (66) 5D 2D [2C 214B~B dj j.B 623C~D] / [236A~D 214B~D]. The 236A~D route allows a 236A oki setup.
   • If does not carry to corner: skip straight to j.B 623C~D
     This corner carry combo does not work on Carl and Lambda. Stick to first combo.
4. Tager and Hakumen only: 2A 5B 5CC 6BC 214A~C~A 2D 66 2C 214B~D 66 2C 214B~B dj ender
   • If at corner: j.D (66) 236A~D j.D or 214B~D if you can do the 66.
   • If not: you can do j.D to send them near corner / to corner or j.B 623C~D
5. Alternate midscreen RC combo: 2A 5B 5CC 6BC 5D(1 or 2) RC 2C 214B~D 66 2C 2D 66 2C ender
   • If 214A~D wall bounces: 214A~D 66 (6A) 5D 66 2C 214B~B dj j.D (66) 236A~D [j.D / 214B~D]
   • Otherwise: Straight to j.D 5D if you can reach or 214B~B dj j.B 623C~D

Off 2C: (Alternative starter: CH 5C)
Depends if you're far from corner or midscreen.

1. Far from corner: 2C 214B~D 66 2C 2D 66 2C 214B~B dj j.B 623C~D
   You can do 214B~B dj j.D to send them to the other side if you want to.
2. Midscreen: 2C 214B~D 66 2C 214A~D 66 (6A) 5D 2C 2D 2C 214B~B dj j.D (66) 236A~D [j.D / 214B~D]

Off grab:

1. B+C RC 66 2D 2C 214B~D 2C 214A~D (44) 6A 5D 66 2C 214B~B dj j.D (66) 236A~D 214B~D
2. 4B+C RC 2C 214B~D 66 2C 2D 66 2C 214A~D 66 (6A) 5D 2C 214B~B dj j.D (66) 236A~D [j.D / 214B~D]
   These two grabs imply the grab is at a distance that 214A~D will wall bounce
3. 4B+C 2B 6A j.B dj [j.D or j.B 623C~D]

Off CH j.B: (Works at corner too)
Depending on height, you can have simpler confirms.
They will all lead into this: 2C 214B~D 2C 214A~D (44) 6A 5D 66 2C 214B~B dj j.D (66) 236A~D 214B~D

1. High CH j.B 2D
   [*]Mid or High CH j.B 5CC 2D(1) 5B 6A 2D
   [*]Low CH j.B 6A 2D
   Once again, these combos will imply that 214A~D wall bounces.
   
   Corner Only:
   
   1. 
      Combo 1 and 3 from the practical list
   2. 4B+C 236236D 2D 2C 214B~D 2C 214A~D (44) 6A 5D 66 2C 214B~B dj j.D (66) 236A~D 214B~D
   3. Alternative B+C throw for Carl, Tsubaki, and Lambda: B+C * 6A 5D 66 2C 214B~D 2C 2D j.D 66 236A~D 214B~D.
      Actually there isn't much stuff in the corner that some shifting of the Impact drives won't fix.
   
   Notes:
   
   • 214B~B dj j.D 236A~D j.D vs 214B~B dj j.D 66 236A~D 214B~D
     You can exempt the 66 for some characters: Noel, Hazama, Mu-12, Valkenhayn, Tager, Hakumen, Rachel, Taokaka, Bang, Litchi. Since without the 66, 214B~D will whiff.
   • 2D j.D vs 2D 2C 214B~B dj j.D
     The timing after the 214B~B to 66 236A~D is very strict. If you just used 2D, you can skip to j.D to allow yourself a more lenient time frame. 214B~B dj j.D does not work on Carl, Lambda, and Tsubaki. You have to use the 2D j.D route as an ender.
   • Damage enders forgoing oki options:
     After 236A~D in combos without 214A~D: 214A~D 5CC j.B 623C~D or 214A~D 236236D
     

1. 
   
   Eh, updated with all the combos I know. Zero has said that 4B+C 2B 6A 2D works but I dunno (probably corner? Good for counter throws I suppose). I have no idea how to link into 236236D (PF) mid combo.

 

[RoanYagyu]

So i usually make a room with darky anytime during the day (or night) during the weekdays and so just throwing this out there for those with the 360 copy. If ya want to join us for some daily training (though i personally am not too good ) then just send me a messege or add me and ill just send everyone i see on bbcs at the time some invites :D.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I was online earlier and noticed KoopaKlawz had a room going. Woulda dropped in for some games, but apparently being at 2/6 person capacity means the room's full.

 

[RoanYagyu]

it is when you have it set to 4 spectators o:

 

[Lythium]

Army of Noels turning to an army of Makotos?!

I actually don't know anywhere that has all the combo listings. I learned all my combos from videos. What you typically find out though for Makoto's combos is that all her drives are roughly interchangeable. You just might lose out on positioning yourself into the next drive however. As such you can always modify your combo slightly for your own comfort.

Combo List:

Spoiler

Assume all D attacks are level 3 unless otherwise stated.
* means delay
(66) means it's optional depending on your distance away from your opponent.


Midscreen
Off 5A / 2A: (Alternative starters: 6A, 2B, 5B, 6B, 5C)

1. 2A 5B 5CC 6BC 214A~CCCCCCC (mash lol)
   • If by the end of the combo reaches corner: 5A 6A j.B j.D 5D 2D 2C 214B~B dj j.B 623C~D
   • RC combo: 214A~CCCCC RC 2D 66 2C 214B~D (66) 2C 214B~B dj j.D (66) 236A~D [j.D / 214B~D]
2. 2A 5B 5C 6C 214B~A j.B dj * j.B * 623C~D(whiff) 5B 6A j.B dj ender
   • If j.D carries to corner: j.D (66) 5D 2D [2C 214B~B dj j.B 623C~D] / [236A~D 214B~D]. The 236A~D route allows a 236A oki setup.
   • If does not carry to corner: skip straight to j.B 623C~D
     This corner carry combo does not work on Carl and Lambda. Stick to first combo.
4. Tager and Hakumen only: 2A 5B 5CC 6BC 214A~C~A 2D 66 2C 214B~D 66 2C 214B~B dj ender
   • If at corner: j.D (66) 236A~D j.D or 214B~D if you can do the 66.
   • If not: you can do j.D to send them near corner / to corner or j.B 623C~D
5. Alternate midscreen RC combo: 2A 5B 5CC 6BC 5D(1 or 2) RC 2C 214B~D 66 2C 2D 66 2C ender
   • If 214A~D wall bounces: 214A~D 66 (6A) 5D 66 2C 214B~B dj j.D (66) 236A~D [j.D / 214B~D]
   • Otherwise: Straight to j.D 5D if you can reach or 214B~B dj j.B 623C~D

Off 2C: (Alternative starter: CH 5C)
Depends if you're far from corner or midscreen.

1. Far from corner: 2C 214B~D 66 2C 2D 66 2C 214B~B dj j.B 623C~D
   You can do 214B~B dj j.D to send them to the other side if you want to.
2. Midscreen: 2C 214B~D 66 2C 214A~D 66 (6A) 5D 2C 2D 2C 214B~B dj j.D (66) 236A~D [j.D / 214B~D]

Oh geez I'm tired. I'll update this post later with grabs and corner stuff. Dustloop has some info too

Haha, maybe? I'm also thinking about Tao...

Thanks a lot! I appreciate it. I'll also check out Dustloop, but this should give me something to work with. :3c

 

[Spelt]

I am okay with noel's switching to makoto.
Makoto annoys me less.


Also, according to here: http://www.blazblue.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=6817&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

This is the new arcadia tier list for july issue:

S: Makoto
A: Noel, Hazama, Jin, Litchi, Valkenhayn, Carl, Rachel, Taokaka
B: Tsubaki, Mu, Platinum, Hakumen, Lambda, Arakune, Ragna, Bang
C: Tager


again, not ordered within tiers.

 

[Lythium]

I'm mostly okay with that list.

 

[Spelt]

I don't understand why valkenhayn is so good.

 

[Lythium]

Great pokes and normals, great mobility and amazing mixup thanks to wolf form. His strength lies in conditioning the opponent to make him helpless against mixup, while having varied options in his neutral game. The only downside to Valk is not having good HP, primers, or a meterless reversal.

His corner game does buttloads of damage too.

Characters with high mobility (Tao, Valk) will probably always be good, regardless of how many times they nerf their damage. :I

 

[Spelt]

I haven't seen his damage even go up to like 4k lol.
Personally I have a hard time with valk because he's tao-spazzy-everywhere and idk what to do most of the time but i just blamed it on me being bad.
His wolf pressure is pretty choreographed.
the only thing that worries me is the command grab.

 

[Lythium]

Command grab is scary.

I think he'll drop in the tier list, simply because no one plays him. I can only think of one notable Japanese Valk, and no American ones.

 

[Spelt]

I am fine with this.

 

[Lythium]

Me too, I find Valk really annoying!

 

[LivewiresXe]

Makoto players finding Valkenhayn annoying is like Litchi players calling Jin overpowered.

 

[Lythium]

I don't even play Makoto yet!

No, but seriously, play against a good Valk, and you'll know.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Oh, I have, and he CAN be most certainly annoying. Yeah, the wolf crossups can be pretty standard, but that doesn't make them easier to get out of when you get caught in them.

 

[arturefo]

i never play with valkenhein,but but it IS annoying to fight against him.he has an excellent range and great speed.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

"Bring down the sky!"

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I love how your premium title went back to Team Underboob, Lyth. Popular demand?

;3

I really need to work on my execution. It is balls. Raz just kinda bent me over and broke his foot off in my *** when I tried anything.

Edit:

"NACHT ROSEN!"

Smooth Criminal

 

[Lythium]

Haha, yes, actually! I had several people send me VMs about missing Team Underboob. :3c

SC, I'mma add you when I get home from work, so we can play sometime.

 

[Raziek]

Raz just kinda bent me over and broke his foot off in my *** when I tried anything.

Oh give yourself some credit, it wasn't THAT bad. Yeah it was a convincing 2-0, but it's not like I double perfected you both games, lol.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Haha, yes, actually! I had several people send me VMs about missing Team Underboob. :3c

SC, I'mma add you when I get home from work, so we can play sometime.

Sweet deal. <3 Looking forward to playing you.

Oh give yourself some credit, it wasn't THAT bad. Yeah it was a convincing 2-0, but it's not like I double perfected you both games, lol.

Raz. Dude. You did perfect me though. Not in the games that mattered, of course, but you roflstomped me so bad when I picked Platinum I almost thought that you did it out of rage against the character. It's like, "WHAT?! LOLI? I HATE LOLIS. FFFUUUUUUUUUUU!" Then I see Hazama chuck knives with all the finesse of a dervish, which worked surprisingly well into your oki game. Platinum may as well been pinned to the floor for all it was worth.

This is how I feel about those "convincing games" in the tourney proper:

Purely Morton's, bro.

I was so salty that smacking my lips together made them crack open and bleed. Oh, I tried D spamming with Noel, but you're just like "lol I'm Hazama and I'm still mobile after my changes. I'm just gonna kinda watch what you're doing and deeeeeee-light in your whiffing 'cause that means I'm gonna come in and **** you." Whenever I did hit you as Noel, I pressed buttons that DIDN'T WORK. I TRIED SPACING, WHICH DIDN'T WORK. I TRIED EATING A SANDWICH WHILE PLAYING, IT DIDN'T WORK. ARE YOU SEEING A PATTERN HERE? I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING.

I didn't do much better with Makoto. Matter of fact, it made me feel even worse. I WAS A TOP TIRE. I SHOULD HAVE WON. BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Tires don exits, apparently. At this point I was just spamming DPs and hoping that I could catch you with a METEOR DIVE THAT LAG DIDN'T LET WORK.

aka I suck at this game and I need to get better. I only have a couple of semi-johns to sincerely utter. I definitely lagged like a mofo. I had a feeling that if I was able to function all seamless and lagless like I would have done better. Oh, you probably still would have beaten me and everything, but I would have at least shaven a game off of you. Maybe, but I dunno.

The second john was a girl john. >_> I was talking to a ladyfriend between matches at the time and she distracted me. Made the blood go to my...

...head.

Seriously, tho'. GGs. All the games were fun.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Lythium]

Well, Raz does hate Platinum... <3

Protip: almost everything Hazama does is safe, more or less. Even moreso online. Jayoku = unblockable.