The experiment that became a lesson

[Endless Nightmares]

While messing with different control schemes in Brawl, I realized that you could set the c-stick to "attack". Old news I know, but I never change my controls so I just found it today . Anyway, I decided to try it out. I set my c-stick from"smash" to "attack", and while I was at it, I changed L, D-up, D-side and D-down to "grab" to parody the supposedly campy/grabby nature of Brawl.

While using this new scheme, I quickly realized that I was replacing previously bad move choices with good ones. Smashes became tilts. Shields (with L) became grabs. Taunts became grabs. I noticed that a lot of time my smash spamming could have easily been replaced with a quicker and safer tilt that would leave my smash to be a strong kill move, instead of a watered-down attack due to spamming. Also, when I'm moving I usually grab with L, and when I'm stationary I grab with R. One of my "approaches" was to run up to someone and shield (L). Now I was landing a lot more grabs when I would've shielded. I even got a few grabs with the taunt button (how embarrassing),

Anyway, this scheme made me a lot more aware of where I was placing my attacks, and taught me to use my smashes more wisely. I'll definitely be using this control scheme for a while.

Anyone have comments or similar stories?

 

[SHined BLind]

One day, I was playing Melee in a middle of fourth quarter party at school and... I sucked like a fakeing n00b. I've been two used to the classic pad with my own control settings. So, when I tried to attack, I grabbed, tried to grab, I jumped, tried to special attack, just regular attacked, tried to U-tilt, I jumped also. What's worse was that I was camping!! I even tried to grab the ledge with my back to it and I pathetically killed myself! Going from one game to the other was harder than I thought.

 

[Vro]

I think the moral of the story is to always be inventive with how you play, and never stop learning.

 

[CrazyShaman]

Wow, I tried it, and it works great as G&W. Though, I'm still getting used to it. I wanted to make one jump a shield and switch to the left one, so I just made all the changes at once.

 

[DanGR]

lol, in brawl i've always used c-stick set to attack. It's the best use of the c-stick. period. Unless more advtechs come out emphasizing the use of smashes for c-stick, i'm never switching. I mean, how many non-attack-c-stick users can ffnair efficiently? no-one. You ever jump instead of uptilting? me, never.

 

[Kirin]

I may have to try this out, although I do just fine with the only change to my control scheme being tap jump set to off. The c-stick set to tilts sounds intriguing though, I will most likely try this today and get back to you with feedback. An easier grab might be nice as Falco.

Also, DanGR, your sig is HILARIOUS. When did this conversation go down? Hahaha.

 

[leafgreen386]

lol, in brawl i've always used c-stick set to attack. It's the best use of the c-stick. period. Unless more advtechs come out emphasizing the use of smashes for c-stick, i'm never switching. I mean, how many non-attack-c-stick users can ffnair efficiently? no-one. You ever jump instead of uptilting? me, never.

I seriously don't get how you can say this with a straight face. I use the default control scheme with no changes, and that includes leaving tap jump on. The only change I make to my "control scheme" is turning off rumble, which isn't technically part of the control scheme in the first place. Regardless, I've never had trouble utilting, and I've never had problems ff'ing nairs. It's called learning how to control your character.

When you play melee, you don't have the ability to change your control scheme to utilt or ff nairs easier. You just... do it. You run, jump, let go of the control stick for a moment, press A, and then immediately press down on the control stick, and LOOK AT THAT! You ff'd a nair. I can ff a nair just as fast and consistently as I can any aerial performed with the cstick. It isn't that hard. The only thing I could understand someone actually having a problem when using a nair is using a fair or bair by accident due to holding the stick too long, although the last time that was actually a problem for me was when I was first learning the game. And last time I checked, consistently performing a cstick neutral was harder than pressing the 'A' button. Meh. Whatever suits you.

As for utilts... um... what the freak? Why does everyone complain about doing jumps by accident? Seriously. It isn't that hard to just press up slightly and press A at the same time. If you can ftilt and ditlt fine, then you shouldn't have trouble utilting. I just don't understand how people have trouble with this. Either way, you can turn tap jump off and be able to utilt without worrying about jumping just the same as you would do by setting the cstick to "attack." Of course, if you do a smash by accident due to not being used to tilting, or use tap jump when playing, that's a different story.

As for advantages for cstick smash? When the cstick is set to smash, you have the ability to easily perform running usmashes or perform a usmash out of shield. Stutter stepping is also only possible with the cstick set to smash. And you don't run the risk of accidentally doing a tilt instead of a smash when you want one, or accidentally charging your smash slightly when you don't want to.

If consistently performing 1 frame smashes isn't a problem for you, you either don't need to use running usmash/usmash out of shield or can do so without the use of the cstick, and don't need to stutter step, and want to use a different setting to make up for some other area where you aren't as consistent in (such as "attack" or "special"), then yeah, it's an obvious choice to change over. But changing is not for everyone, and there are definite downsides to it.

 

[Doval]

Whether you had an option or not in Melee is not relevant to Brawl.

As for advantages for cstick smash? When the cstick is set to smash, you have the ability to easily perform running usmashes or perform a usmash out of shield.

You can easily perform running up smashes or up smash out of the shield without the C-stick. I would know, because I play with the C-stick set to Attack most of the time.

And Stutter Step is only useful for 4 characters.

As for getting a tilt instead of a smash...are you serious?

I don't mean to harass, you bring up some good points (e.g. it's not particularly hard to do tilts with the analog stick, every set-up has its opportunity cost etc.) but a few of the other points you mention are, to be blunt, silly.