The Official SBR Podcast! (Ep. 4 - DL OUT!)

[Master Raven]

I hate to bring it up but someone stated in the first episode that MK dominates FL, which is NOT true. Afro Thundah (Snake/Wario) and Seibrik (DDD) lead FL. MK almost never wins tournies down here, even with incredibly gay players like Rx- running around.

 

[memphischains]

when can i fight for sucky characters agian

 

[smash superstar]

I wont be able to tune in for this....but I do hope it doesnt take as long for it to get uploaded on to here like ep 41 =)

 

[Philosophize]

On the metaknight banning podcast...You guys could've made a lot more progress if you had an actual brawl with a tv right there with you during the discussion. A lot of people brought up points that weren't exactly verifiable, like that argument about metaknight dying from snake uair at 180. I mean it would probably wouldn't have been as enjoyable to listen to, but with a Wii right there i think you would have made more progress on the topic of the discussion itself, which, after all, is more important anyway.

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

On the metaknight banning podcast...You guys could've made a lot more progress if you had an actual brawl with a tv right there with you during the discussion. A lot of people brought up points that weren't exactly verifiable, like that argument about metaknight dying from snake uair at 180. I mean it would probably wouldn't have been as enjoyable to listen to, but with a Wii right there i think you would have made more progress on the topic of the discussion itself, which, after all, is more important anyway.

It's not like they were all in the same room.

 

[make money]

The Official SBR Podcast! (Ep. 1 DL UP)

This discussion will definitely be something to look forward to.
I'm strongly against the ban, but I understand the reasoning behind banning him. I'd like to hear this debate ^^
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Mains: Metaknight( I wanted to main him before the game even came out), DeDeDe, Sonic, Link (was my melee main) Secondary : Diddy, Donkey Kong, Toon Link, Ice climbers
I play too many chars
Accomplishments: 1st place Brawl @Million Man Lan 5 (www.lanwar.com)

 

[Johnknight1]

I'm fairly against the ban, but meah. I like hearing all sides of a story, and both sides made interesting points.

Now that we got this episode behind, we need to have one on abor-wait, never mind. I think we all value our lives!

Yeah, keep up the good work. I wonder what you'll cover next with this SBR series. Toon Link's Awesomeness...maybe?

 

[Revven]

Isn't the next episode supposed to be this weekend...?

 

[Youko]

We won't be able to pull together an episode this weekend because of Thanksgiving, collegiate breaks, and lack of planning/advertising. Expect an announcement on when the next one is planned within the next couple days.

 

[KO M]

=_= , aww , oh well lookin foward to the next then.

 

[noobpota2]

lol still waiting(not trying to be aggrivating)

 

[Zolga Owns]

Can't wait for the next cast :D

Great Job guys.

 

[Youko]

Amazingly, as stated in the first episode, we host another podcast called Show Me Your News. It has its own thread in General Brawl Discussion. If you kept up with that, since the Brawl Debate episodes are part of SMYN as well, you'd know that we were working on this in lieu on COLLEGE FINALS.

Episode 42.5 (12/07) - Fan Reviews:
DOWNLOAD: http://smyn.smashnexus.net/podcast/smynfanreviews.mp3

Thanks for understanding. We'll let you know as soon as we can when we pull something together for the next SBR episode.

 

[noobpota2]

lol my bad youko didn't know

 

[darkNES386]

I'm curious to hear what has to be said about Brawl+...errr... not melee2.0

 

[matt4300]

I would also love to hear what the sbr thinks should be the tourney setup for brawl+ sadly im sure there going to use MAD and 10% hitstun v_v'

 

[Mr_Orion]

Freaking sweet.

 

[Youko]

The second episode of the official Smash Back Room podcast (also known as Show Me Your News episode 43) is currently scheduled to be on Monday, December 22nd. We will discuss hacked Brawl, Brawl+, and all related topics. Feel free to ask "mailtime" questions in this thread that we will answer! Guests are currently being selected and we will get back to you regarding a specific time once our guests have been selected.

 

[DisabledParking]

Here are a few name suggestions for the smash backroom podcast dont know if they 've been suggested before if they have i apologize.

The Fireside Smash or The Fireside Brawls
Face the Brawl Nation
The Brawl Braintrust/Think tank

and more when I think of them.

 

[Commander_Beef]

I am very surprised at this piece of work.

 

[Youko]

We have now established the time to be THIS SUNDAY at 8:00 PM (ET). Remember to post any questions you may have regarding our or our guests' thoughts about hacking Brawl!

 

[memphischains]

it should be in no way even considered for competitive play

and sonic is steak tier

 

[Revven]

it should be in no way even considered for competitive play

Just listen to the podcast, perhaps your mind will change.

 

[noobpota2]

Is the mailtime gonna be about hacking brawl, or about brawl altogether?

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

I may not be available when this comes on, but I think the only codes that should be allowed as of now are no tripping and music modifier.

Brawl+ is awesome though.

 

[noobpota2]

lulzlulzlulz

 

[imtired]

Rofl I forgot about this, then went to the podcast at 9:20 and it started like 3 mins after that.

 

[Heavyarms2050]

purpose of Brawl+ is too add to the depth to the shallowness of normal Brawl

 

[kupo15]

is there going to be a download link?

it should be in no way even considered for competitive play

and sonic is steak tier

Why not? Have you tried it out without Melee air dodge and gravity? It feels like a better solid version of brawl that Im sure won't end up being MK dittos. I think that the no stale move system will make comboing for MK harder given his bad air speed but we need to test. It seems like every code that restores brawls smash mechanics brings MK down to more equal with the rest of the cast...

The more codes that come out, the more balanced the game becomes and the closer the rungs in the tier list ladder are.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Wait till after Christmas for a link. These things take time.

 

[Youko]

...Or, you know, we'll have one up later today.

 

[KishPrime]

Thanks again for having me on...Hope I don't come off as the idiot I felt like I was!

 

[Lore]

Can't wait to DL.

Tried to catch it last night but couldn't...

 

[Youko]

http://smyn.smashnexus.net/download.php?id=47

Pretty great episode, definitely check it out and give your feedback!

 

[Xane]

Just something you might want to edit:

Episode 1: The Banning of Meta Knight

(...)

Episode 1: Hacking and Brawl+

 

[Youko]

Pretty easy fix, thanks.

 

[noobpota2]

Loved it, wish i stayed instead of going to sleep. look foward to the next one.

have a gd xmas

 

[kupo15]

it was great!

I want to say that there is a difference between 11.75% and 12% hitstun. The combos found in 12% are still present in 11.75% but you need to set them up better and have better spacing and positioning around the stage. Its not something that looks different, but it sure does feel different and better.

 

[Crispy4001]

In spite of not trying Brawl+ yet, I'm really enjoying this podcast.


One thing that caught my attention in the S/L/Auto-L canceling discussion was how S-canceling opened up more options, but still limited your approach. That's something I hadn't thought of before. However, there's two big concerns I'd could see myself having with the option:

1. Several air moves in Brawl, as in Melee, are fundamentally risk-reward. More powerful air moves (such as Link's down-A) tend to have longer landing lag. Since S-canceling removes all landing lag, wouldn't that eliminate much of the risk of some areals?

I can't help but think back to Melee, where an L-canceled Link down-A still took much longer to recover from than, say, an L-canceled sex kick. I'm not so sure that removing that dynamic altogether with S-Canceling would improve the balance.


2. Once landing on the ground, you're able to grab as soon as you have your shield up with S-canceling (if I'm understanding it right). Sounds nice ... but what if your opponent tried to counter your areal with a shield-grab? I'd imagine there's only a small window of opportunity - they'd have to shield your attack and initiate the grab before you hit the ground.

I'm afraid of granting the offensive player in this situation too much flexibility. Spacing your air attacks to avoid shield-grabs is one thing. But a poorly approached areal against a shielding opponent shouldn't put them both on equal standings. There needs to be room to capitalize on mistakes.

Maybe this would only be a problem with heavier gravity/quicker fastfalls, etc. If it's problematic now, maybe that's something added(/lessened?) shield-stun could fix.


Like I said, I haven't tried Brawl+ yet, so I honestly don't have much insight here. Anyone who has fiddled around with Brawl+ care to comment on these two concerns?

 

[NinjaLink]

This episode is great. I missed the beginning so im downloading that now. I liked it for the second half. Me and my silly sleep schedule |3