Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Dark Phazon]

The only other character I would throw in there would maybe be Toad, however, he is still just a side character within his series, unlike Ridley and K. Rool. Bowser Jr. has also had important roles within the main Mario series since 2002 (though Toad is more iconic).

Its sad to think we are finally scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to Nintendo all-stars.

Or you could say thats its sad that nintendo/Sakurai think Ridley & K.Rool are the bottom of the barrel for all stars.

Apparently it never crossed Sakura's mind to make/suggest Ridley be playable even though he has strong appearencs in the Smash series Sakurai clearly didnt forget him but no doubt just didnt look at him in that way..

But Ridleys getting more love now then ever so thats good.

Hmmm..i really wonder if Sakurai ever though about K.Rool though...

 

[majora_787]

Nostalgia on the matter of the angry mess that was the pre-Brawl Ridley thread. Good times. Gooood times.

Jokes aside. I agree that it's kind of disheartening that the likes of Ridley and Rool are considered... not iconic enough to make it into the series for three straight games, despite their weight in their respective series. No pun intended.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Oh dat Dark Phazon, always the downer of whatever situation is presented.

And I wouldn't call that nostalgia, just a travesty.

 

[majora_787]

I distinctly recall ridley threads being banned at some point presumably until relatively recently. So yeah, travesty is probably a pretty good word. But still. It was funny to sit in on a lot of times.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Oh dat Dark Phazon, always the downer of whatever situation is presented.

And I wouldn't call that nostalgia, just a travesty.

Nice to see you too ''Ridley_Prime''

Also what you mean by ''always the downer''?

Just curious.

 

[Phaazoid]

Nice to see you too ''Ridley_Prime''

Also what you mean by ''always the downer''?

Just curious.

Haha if you are the same Dark Phazon as before, then

 

[Banjodorf]

Nice to see you too ''Ridley_Prime''

Also what you mean by ''always the downer''?

Just curious.

This is a kind of long response, soooo:

[COLLAPSE="STUFF!"]As much "hate" as Sakurai gets around here, he's a great developer.

It's the truth, and Sakurai =/= Miyamoto OR Nintendo. He implements characters that he has genuine interest in or fans have genuine interest in when the time is right. He also doesn't let aspects of Nintendo's legacy fall by the wayside, for the most part.

For example, in K. Rool's Melee trophy, it references the fact that he's "Even managed to grab some fans of his own" over the course of the years. An obvious reference to K. Rool's still-strong fanbase even back then.

Ridley was given not one, but two boss spots. This is much better than ignoring him, and Sakurai is a much more involved developer than half of Nintendo's. He even responded to questions about Ridley, granted as alot of his other stuff they were quirky. "I think that'd be pretty impossible, but if he was, he'd be pretty slow, is that OK?"

In a Sakurai way, that's an "I'll see what I can do", honestly.

Besides, look at Sakurai's repesentation and design of Diddy Kong in Brawl. Talk about pandering to the right fanbase, that **** was magical.

Even if Nintendo ignores parts of characer's legacies, Sakurai tends *not* to. [/COLLAPSE]

 

[Diddy Kong]

Diddy's inclusion in Brawl really couldn't have been better. In that sence, he's a great respective developer. Who pays a lot of attention to details. I always said that I'd trust him making a DKC game, and would really like to see what he could do to the series.

I'd accept slow Ridley though.

 

[BKupa666]

Every time I see that Sakurai quote, I have confidence that he knows how to design Ridley. Him being slow absolutely makes sense; in fact, the moveset in this thread's OP even references his sluggishness on the stage, compared to his excellence in the air. Plus, a slow heavyweight Ridley leaves room for a faster heavyweight K. Rool.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I guess some people are against our favorite reptiles because they'd think the both of them would be too BIG of a problem in the battlefield.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Ridley isnt too big but he could be awkward but its not like over chars werent either at first if anything straight cut to the point in all honest it just comes down to.

If Sakurai wants him in and if he does if he is this so called completionist then hes gotta take all the effort to make him work.

Balance/speed/power/hitbox/

No denying it will feel like something abit more then just making a another new char...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Honestly, after thinking about it. I think Ridley should be the biggest character in the game. He could be slightly bigger than Bowser and I think everything would work just fine.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Bowser himself could also be bigger I feel. Would definitely buff him, as he'd also get additional range, weight and power to compensate. Ridley could then be the second largest.

 

[Watashi]

I support Ridley.

Also what was the contarversy that happend during the dark ages regarding Ridley?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Ridley fans got in a rage over just about everything I remember.

 

[Dark Phazon]

I support Ridley.

Also what was the contarversy that happend during the dark ages regarding Ridley?

Loooool people be itching to revive the nightmare.

 

[Diddy Kong]

There where also a LOT of haters / trolls against Ridley though in that time. I wasn't there enough to see it all happen (far too hectic for my tastes- and had Diddy trolls to show no mercy at ) but it seemed like every page or so, another troll just hopped in to add fuel to the flame with arguments as: 'Damn, Ridley's BIGGG man!'.

Believe it or not, there where people BEFORE ANTHONY who said Ridley has no style!

 

[TheJohnMonster]

I thought it would have been awesome if Anthony was more like James Heller from prototype 2
I wonder if Ridley has a huge ego though
Like everyone is dirt beneath my feet ego

 

[Ridley_Prime]

I'm sure he does. The manga at least depicted him as such.

 

[Deleted member]

Well, Ridley DOES acknowlege his superiors, so it's not as though he is completely in an "everyone is below me" mindset.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

He may acknowledge them but that doesn't mean he doesn't think he's better.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Yeah, that's kinda what I meant.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well, Ridley and me have something in common

 

[TheJohnMonster]

The ability to get beaten up by a girl?

 

[8-peacock-8]

The ability to get beaten up by a girl?

To be fair that girl has a gun.

 

[vicgur]

To be fair that girl is a walking gun.

Fix'd that for ya

 

[Phaazoid]

To be fair that gun is a walking girl

Fix'd that for ya

double fix'd

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

To be fair that girl is a juggernaut, *****!

Fixed.

 

[Phaazoid]

Mine was better

 

[Dark Phazon]

Fixed.

Samus Aran

(fixed)

 

[Phaazoid]

We've been quoting for so long that I forgot what we're talking about

noooow its fixed

 

[Dark Phazon]

Fixed Camarahhhh!!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Here's a Codec call I made for Ridley!


Otacon: "Snake! Be careful! That guy is dangerous!"
Snake: "You mean this dragon thing. He looks like he hasn't gotten a meal in ages."
Otacan: "He may look skinny but that thing fights with the ferocity of a demon! That's Ridley! Leader of the space pirates. He's the one responsible for the death of Samus' parents when she was a little girl."
Snake: "But Samus got her revenge right?"
Otacon: "Yes, but Ridley always finds some way to come back and hurt her. I don't think their rivalry will ever end."
Snake: "...Reminds me of someone I know..."

 

[TheCreator]

What would hi tail do in his move set?

 

[Diddy Kong]

His tail? Whoa, what could it NOT do in his moveset really?

It's basically a spear sort of weapon, he could use it for his aerials, Smashes, and other moves. It would give him lots of range though, so he needs tombe carefully balanced.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Aerials with his tail would be pretty sweet.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I've seen things done with his tail...

Things that can't be unseen.

Thank you internet...

 

[Diddy Kong]

Oh **** this **** already Psycho...

NOW I CAN'T UN-THINK.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Nightmares.....

For months.......

 

[Diddy Kong]

Now I really feel bad for losing to Ridley 4 times in a row in Super Metroid...