Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[FlareHabanero]

I think the head's too big, but maybe that's just me.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

That's pretty nice. By any chance, can you show him next to someone else so we can get a judgement of scale? Just wondering. I really do like it.

I'll compare Ridley to the following...

[collapse=Size Comparisons]Ridley & Mario

Ridley & Bowser

Ridley & Samus

Ridley & Ganondorf

Ridley & Charizard

Ridley & Groudon

Ridley & Zekrom

Ridley & Galleom

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[bombers14]

I think that size fits him fine but I do think they should make him bigger than bowser though

 

[Deleted member]

Ridley seems a bit small there, IMO. He's got to be at least eye-level with Samus.

Other than that, EPIC.

EDIT: I see you fixed it. Very good.
Also, I don't mean to nitpick, but Zekrom is smaller than Groudon.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Ridley seems a bit small there, IMO. He's got to be at least eye-level with Samus.

Other than that, EPIC.

EDIT: I see you fixed it. Very good.
Also, I don't mean to nitpick, but Zekrom is smaller than Groudon.

Yeah I took hold of Zekrom's model, and its idle pose had it at 1.5x its normal size. As for Ridley, I resized his Brawl model to 0.4x his normal size, which seems appropriate for being a playable character. I'll see if I can make a better Zekrom and Ridley comparison; I make sure that the floor levels are matching completely.

Edit: Fixed up the Zekrom and Ridley comparison so that Zekrom is shorter than Groudon.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Great job. Just the right size for our favorite space dragodactyl to show the villains who's boss. I remembered seeing a video with that model hack before.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

You mean this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyvWCMZ4s60

And yeah, great job.

 

[Oasis_S]

Oh my goodness I could kiss you, M&S.

 

[bombers14]

You mean this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyvWCMZ4s60

And yeah, great job.

That looked perfect

watch this its kind of cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7Zvs5dNig&feature=related

 

[Deleted member]

watch this its kind of cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7Zvs5dNig&feature=related

What does that have to do with Ridley....?

 

[Phaazoid]

Yo dawg I heard through the grape vine that ridley was alike a shoe in for sm4sh.

No but seriously Ridley for Bra- I mean Sm4sh. Nice to see some familiar faces in this thread

 

[Deleted member]

Ridley for Bra?
Is that what it really means when people say Ridley is too big?

 

[DarkSouls]

Wow, that Ridley comparison is neat. I think his head could be shrunken a little so that it's more in line with his body; more Prime or Other M, less Super Metroid (Where it was huge).

I never realized how humassive Galleom is.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I never realized how humassive Galleom is.

And they said Ridley is too big. Basically, the Ridley and Galleom size comparison is supposed to compare playable Ridley to one of the tallest bosses in the Subspace Emissary. Needless to say, Galleom is way bigger.

 

[Deleted member]

As a joke you should compare playable Ridley to Boss Ridley.

Oh, and Boss Ridley to Meta Ridley, so I can finally have absolute proof that Meta Ridley is actually smaller outside of wingspan.

 

[Oasis_S]

As a joke you should compare playable Ridley to Boss Ridley.

Oh, and Boss Ridley to Meta Ridley, so I can finally have absolute proof that Meta Ridley is actually smaller outside of wingspan.

I agree that M&S should do that if only because size comparisons are the love of my life.

Pretty sure Meta-Ridley was, in the Metroid series, his largest incarnations though.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

As a joke you should compare playable Ridley to Boss Ridley.

Oh, and Boss Ridley to Meta Ridley, so I can finally have absolute proof that Meta Ridley is actually smaller outside of wingspan.

I can tell you right now that even when normal sized, Ridley will still be shorter than Galleom. In terms of boss Ridley and boss Meta Ridley, they're roughly the same size.

On a side note, Final Smash Giga Bowser is actually taller than boss Ridley AND boss Meta Ridley.

Anyway, seeing as you're curious, I'll compare Ridley's 1x scale to his 0.4x scale.

[collapse=Size Comparison]Playable Ridley (right) & Boss Ridley (left)

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[Oasis_S]

I had already noticed his head was about the same length (if not more) as his body in Brawl, BUT MAN seeing it like that really makes it noticeable.

Wish I could play with Ridley's model like that. >:

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I already noticed his head was about the same length (if not more) as his body, BUT MAN seeing it like that really makes it noticeable.

Wish I could play with Ridley's model like that. >:

It's quite easy with BrawlBox.

Anyway, Ridley's pose has him hunched over a bit, so it only looks like he is shorter than Bowser. For a few T-stance size comparisons...

[collapse=Size Comparisons]Ridley & Bowser (T-stance version)

Ridley & Ganondorf (T-stance version)

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[Oasis_S]

Whoooa. Thank you so much. Always wanted to see T-Pose Ridley. I love how his neck is a perfect freaking right angle, lol.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I went through some more size comparisons, and it seems that Dialga's Brawl model is taller than Groudon's Brawl model.

Now, if I were to compare playable Ridley to Zekrom, with Zekrom being a stage hazard (like Dialga), Zekrom would have to be about as tall as Dialga.

[collapse=Size Comparison]Playable Ridley, Stage Hazard Dialga, & Stage Hazard Zekrom

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[DakotaBonez]

Hahahahaha! These size comparisons are awesome! Now make them dance! |D

 

[Robert of Normandy]

...How does Ridley swallow anything with that tiny neck? Must be painful as hell...

 

[Phaazoid]

He doesn't swallow things, he burns them. The only nourishment he needs comes from watching the agony in his opponent's eyes as they slowly char.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Him regenerating after a ship self-destruct by eating flesh kinda says otherwise. As for the neck, I didn't mind the thicker one he had in Other M (kinda made more sense in a way), as unsettling as the head/mouth design was in that game..

Also, hi. Good to see you active again.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Him regenerating after a ship self-destruct by eating flesh kinda says otherwise. As for the neck, I didn't mind the thicker one he had in Other M (kinda made more sense in a way), as unsettling as the head/mouth design was in that game..

Also, hi. Good to see you active again.

Who, me?

I've always hated the Other M design from the first moment I saw it. I always thought it was just me, good to know that there are other people who share the same view.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Was referring to Phaazoid/samusrules.

You were never alone in hating the Other M design. I heard lots of complaining about it the day the first trailer was released. I liked it though except for the head/mouth. Just that.

Oh hey, you made the 187th post in this thread, as in Geoform 187, as in Ridley...!

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Was referring to Phaazoid/samusrules.

You were never alone in hating the Other M design. I heard lots of complaining about it the day the first trailer was released. I liked it though except for the head/mouth. Just that.

Oh hey, you made the 187th post in this thread, as in Geoform 187, as in Ridley...!

Holy ****, I had no idea that that was even a thing(the Geoform thing). I haven't finished Other M, and the only other games I've played are the original and Super Metroid and a few minutes of Prime 1, so I'm a bit out of the loop on Metroid mythology gags.

I could never place what I hated about the other M design. I think it was that I preferredthat the Brawl(Prime?) design was scrawnier. The OM design was just too fleshy for me.

 

[Phaazoid]

yeah, idk, I like the brawl ridley character model. The other M one, doesn't sit with me too well (or at least some parts of it)

Also, MarioANDSonicguy, don't I know you from the pre brawl days too? I don't think you were a mod then. congratz on that, and nice brawlbox work!

Also, allow me to submit another final smash option

BIRD OF PREY
Ridley flies straight up, off of the screen, and you see him fly away in the background. Then, with a dragoon like reticule, but a bit wider, you aim at the field. when you hit A, Ridley immediately flies on like the dragoon, snatching whoever he hits in his claws, and flying straight up again. Once he's off screen, whoever he grabs is seen falling to the star death.

 

[Deleted member]

I can tell you right now that even when normal sized, Ridley will still be shorter than Galleom. In terms of boss Ridley and boss Meta Ridley, they're roughly the same size.

On a side note, Final Smash Giga Bowser is actually taller than boss Ridley AND boss Meta Ridley.

Anyway, seeing as you're curious, I'll compare Ridley's 1x scale to his 0.4x scale.

[collapse=Size Comparison]Playable Ridley (right) & Boss Ridley (left)

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I'd rather see the size comparison between the two boss Ridleys rather than take your word for it, no offense. I have taken a few pictures on Brawl comparing Samus with them, and there is a noticeable difference in certain parts of the body.

And really? Giga Bowser is BIGGER than both boss Ridleys? If we were to get visual proof of that, it would seal the deal on Ridley not being "too big" to work, since Giga Bowser works (somewhat)!

Also, yeesh, that's kind of a noticeable difference....

 

[jigglover]

There is no excuse to not include Ridley this time around.

There are a few necessities that ridley can't fulfill:
1) As far as i know, Ridley can't walk, and if he's launched, he can't crash to the ground since he can't get back up again in minimal time you can't go from lying on your back to warping in the air, it would just be weird.
2) Predictable moveset. Scratch, tail jab, head butt/scratch and wing scratch is basically it; it would be easy to beat.

 

[Opossum]

There are a few necessities that ridley can't fulfill:
1) As far as i know, Ridley can walk, and if he's launched, he can't crash to the ground since he can't get back up again in minimal time you can't go from lying on your back to warping in the air, it would just be weird.
2) Predictable moveset. Scratch, tail jab, head butt/scratch and wing scratch is basically it; it would be easy to beat.

I'm not even sure what that first point is saying.


For the second, did you see the move set in the OP?

 

[Oasis_S]

1) As far as i know

There's your problem.

 

[jigglover]

For the second, did you see the move set in the OP?

Yes I did, that the moveset i'm talking about. It got a bit boring after a bit, but from what I read it looked pretty rubbish, so did final smash.

 

[Opossum]

If that moveset isn't your cup of tea, go look up some Ridley boss fights on Youtube. He has plenty to offer.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Holy ****, I had no idea that that was even a thing(the Geoform thing). I haven't finished Other M, and the only other games I've played are the original and Super Metroid and a few minutes of Prime 1, so I'm a bit out of the loop on Metroid mythology gags.

I could never place what I hated about the other M design. I think it was that I preferredthat the Brawl(Prime?) design was scrawnier. The OM design was just too fleshy for me.

That was what Ridley was referred to in one of the Pirate Logs of Prime 1. Never quite got the meaning behind it, but eh, it's there.

Maybe Ridley's race in their final stage naturally become scrawnier with much skinnier necks and stuff as they get older. The clone in Other M didn't get to live for that long, so who knows. As for too fleshy, kind of agree. He spilled ludicrous amounts of dat green blood.

There are a few necessities that ridley can't fulfill:
1) As far as i know, Ridley can't walk, and if he's launched, he can't crash to the ground since he can't get back up again in minimal time you can't go from lying on your back to warping in the air, it would just be weird.
2) Predictable moveset. Scratch, tail jab, head butt/scratch and wing scratch is basically it; it would be easy to beat.

1. He's shown capable of walking in Prime 3 and Other M, both games in which you can make him fall to the ground if you shoot him enough when he's airborne.
2. That's like not (or barely) even scratching the surface of what he could do, even if you ignore the extra abilities of his other forms from the Prime trilogy or Other M, which definitely weren't predictable at first.

Yes I did, that the moveset i'm talking about. It got a bit boring after a bit, but from what I read it looked pretty rubbish, so did final smash.

How was the final smash even rubbish? It's a helluva lot more original than the majority of the ones we saw in Brawl.

 

[Oasis_S]

Goodness I'm glad you're back. You can do all the arguing for me. I am your captain now forget about Gypsy.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

How was the final smash even rubbish? It's a helluva lot more original than the majority of the ones we saw in Brawl.

You get a Landmaster, you get a Landmaster, EVERYBODY GETS A LANDMASTER!

JK obviously. Anyway, that Ridley moveset and FS is pretty darn cool.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't particularly care if he gets in or not (neutral on him), but he clearly deserves to get in. Hoping for the best for the fan base.

 

[Phaazoid]

Hell, I even put up an alternative final smash last page. I mean, sheesh, if you don't have anything productive to add... Well, ridley prime already said everything for me. I love that guy.