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Guide The Yo-yo Glitch: Cracked. (Update: FAQ now in first post)
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in essence...we are doing just that...trying to figure out what we are doing...
we dont know exactly what causes this which is why we canty do it very well and why i cant tell u how to do it....we have to figure it out first
we dont know exactly what causes this which is why we canty do it very well and why i cant tell u how to do it....we have to figure it out first
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Aww... I guess my vid will have to wait. But why don't you share some of the things you are doing with us? I mean, even if you don't quite know what you are doing right now, tell us what you have been doing and we may discover the tricks. I mean, that's how we discovered the current effects right?
ok....but like i said we dont have much info at all yet
it involves WDing towards a ledge and using upsmash so the yoyo hangs COMPLETELY off the side (string and all) and still charges(does not need to hit anything)...charge all the way
being pushed to the edge while charge the smash via Tree Wind of another character doesnt work
GO FOR IT!^_^
it involves WDing towards a ledge and using upsmash so the yoyo hangs COMPLETELY off the side (string and all) and still charges(does not need to hit anything)...charge all the way
being pushed to the edge while charge the smash via Tree Wind of another character doesnt work
GO FOR IT!^_^
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
I think I've done that. I did it on the UFO in Fourside before as it extends everyones (minus the Icys with their cleats) WD to the max. Maybe we should test there. Oh and, I think I may have accidentally slipped across a SYYG trait the other day. I had put on Spike Jacket and was going for TJ, but the opponent (fox) walked into me during the process and I hit him 3 times with the jacket. I was like 0_o. You could tell because I heard the "smack" sound that you get when you spike 3 times, and Fox flew up, down, then up again. Tell me if I'm onto something here.
Reik
Smash Ace
Already thought of that. According to Damian(the one who discovered the glitch), doing that makes the yo-yo look exactly the same as if you had performed the glitch, but it doesn't actually activate it.
I talked to Damian on AIM a lot about this a week or two ago. Apparently the glitch is very difficult the pull off (even with AR) because we don't fully understand it. We know that it has something to do with starting the u-smash on a certain frame of the teeter animation (one of the first few frames), but Damian commented that the frame is not always the same. He also said that he had once done it without wavedashing toward the ledge first. (However, I think we should keep that practice until we understand it more, because this is how Simna was able to pull it off once.)
Damian said that he has a video of himself doing it with AR, but he needs to find his capture card first. Still waiting on that. Once we get a video hopefully we can analyze it more.
Wtf... that's not possible. Exactly what were you doing at the time? Were you just running to the ledge or were you already off the stage? Maybe phantom hits make the sounds and you only thought you saw him fly up and down? Phantom hits still have hitlag, so I can imagine someone making that mistake.
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Ummm... I'm not sure. It all happened so fast, but I know for a fact that I wasn't even going to the edge. I was attempting an aerial floorblast. I jumped. and as soon as I left the ground, I heard 3 smacks and fox was flailing around.
:veryconfu
:veryconfu
Reik
Smash Ace
You can't equip a jacket of an attack that has multiple hitboxes at the same time (as I explained in the FAQ). The bat has at least 3 hitboxes... I haven't had a chance to use AR in a while so I'm not sure anymore.
EDIT: Lol... sorry. I just realized that I DIDN'T explain that exactly that way in the FAQ. I think I left it out for the final version because it wasn't really necessary to know.
EDIT: Lol... sorry. I just realized that I DIDN'T explain that exactly that way in the FAQ. I think I left it out for the final version because it wasn't really necessary to know.
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Maybe I was hallucinating...
I've gotta lay off the Elmers glue...
But maybe not. I'm pretty sure I heard 3 smacks.
And after you get it to charge off the stage completely, then what? Keep charging it to the max? Hit something? Let go? I got it once today, but I fluked it. I mean, I got it to charge off the edge, but I didn't quite get how I did it, and what to do afterwards.
I've gotta lay off the Elmers glue...
But maybe not. I'm pretty sure I heard 3 smacks.
And after you get it to charge off the stage completely, then what? Keep charging it to the max? Hit something? Let go? I got it once today, but I fluked it. I mean, I got it to charge off the edge, but I didn't quite get how I did it, and what to do afterwards.
Reik
Smash Ace
Ahh... lucky. I've never been able to get it. I think Simna said you're supposed to let it charge for at least 10 frames. After that you should have it no matter when you let go or fully charge it. (Not sure.)
Anyway, since you pulled it off, please give me as many details as you can remember so that I can do some more testing:
1. What stage were you on? Which side?
2. Were you in training mode with slowed down speed or VS with normal speed?
3. What game version do you have? 1.0, 1.1, 1.2?
4. Did you wavedash toward the ledge?
5. Did you visibly see Ness start to teeter before you started the U-smash?
6. About how long did you charge it? (Less than half? Barely at all?)
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Umm... I'm not good at observing spontaneous things
, and my brain was hurting since I was trying for 2 and a half hours, but I'll see what I can remember.
1. FD left
2. Training mode normal speed
3. I always hoped no one would ask me this >_>. Alright... time to confess...
"I dont know how to tell..."
4. Yes
5. That, unfortunately, I dont remember.
6. I charged it as long as you would for a normal YYG.
cool...we are making better progress than i expected
EB360...about your multiple spikes....could there have been any other targets on the stage that u could have hit such as:
Items, Needles, other characters, shy aways, anything like that?
EB360...about your multiple spikes....could there have been any other targets on the stage that u could have hit such as:
Items, Needles, other characters, shy aways, anything like that?
Reik
Smash Ace
Take your Melee disk, and turn it over to the shiny side. Hold it directly in the light, and search for tiny text on the dark ring. You'll have to experiment by holding your disk at different angles in the light, until the text is visible.
Eventually, you should be able to find text that says "DOL-GALE-0-xx".
The "xx" will actually be a number, which tells you which version you have. The version numbers are below:
00: Version 1.0
01: Version 1.1
02: Version 1.2
also u can try this: If you live in Europe or Australia then u have PAL version
if u dont then go to training mode and try to use Link's Super Jump, if you can u have version 1.0, if you can't then switch to bowser and see if u can flame cancel
If you cant then u have version 1.2, if you can u have version 1.1
if u dont then go to training mode and try to use Link's Super Jump, if you can u have version 1.0, if you can't then switch to bowser and see if u can flame cancel
If you cant then u have version 1.2, if you can u have version 1.1
i tried it on the slippery surface in test arena and had no success....that's not to say it doesnt work
squaminator
Smash Ace
i take it that many failed attempts are expected on this (syyg) glitch.
i wded and still, nothing. lots and lots of times.
using v. 1.00 btw
i wded and still, nothing. lots and lots of times.
using v. 1.00 btw
yes they are expected^_^
Reik
Smash Ace
Simna, what version were you using when you pulled it off?
i was using version 0
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Umm... okay, I can't check my game right now. I can't even touch my Gamecube (i'm not allowed right now). I'm actually not even supposed to be online
! But I can Link Super Jump, I know that. Also, I can do the Static Glitch/Electric Ness Glitch. I can even PKTB. And I really don't see why it wouldn't work on the UFO. I did it once there. (Charging it off the edge). I mean, I don't see what it doesn't have that the edge on FD does, well maybe a grabbable edge, but that doesn't affect the glitch does it?
! But I can Link Super Jump, I know that. Also, I can do the Static Glitch/Electric Ness Glitch. I can even PKTB. And I really don't see why it wouldn't work on the UFO. I did it once there. (Charging it off the edge). I mean, I don't see what it doesn't have that the edge on FD does, well maybe a grabbable edge, but that doesn't affect the glitch does it?
hmmmm....we dont know....we think it doesnt tho
also EB360, i believe u either have version 0 or 1 (not 2), but im sure sure which one
also EB360, i believe u either have version 0 or 1 (not 2), but im sure sure which one
Reik
Smash Ace
Okay... at least it works on 1.0 then (which is what I have). I've been trying it a lot with many different timings and I've never gotten it to charge even once yet, though. I really wish I had a video or a detailed description of the timing.
*shrugs* I've gotten it to charge many times on the UFO and the ice platforms in Icicle Mountain, but it doesn't drop a hitbox or anything.
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
^^^
Because we are still in the process of making discoveries, and we can't do it consistently, thus cannot make vids of it yet. We just don't knoww how to yet.
Oh and Simna, about the triple SJ, I was fighting Fox in vs. mode, no items on FD. So, I'm pretty sure I didn't hit anything. Oh, and this has haapened to me before, but I just never took into account/ noticed it. I've seen it happen with star jacket too. Although, I'm waiting for the day in which it will happen to TJ!!!
Because we are still in the process of making discoveries, and we can't do it consistently, thus cannot make vids of it yet. We just don't knoww how to yet.
Oh and Simna, about the triple SJ, I was fighting Fox in vs. mode, no items on FD. So, I'm pretty sure I didn't hit anything. Oh, and this has haapened to me before, but I just never took into account/ noticed it. I've seen it happen with star jacket too. Although, I'm waiting for the day in which it will happen to TJ!!!
Damian told me that he has tested and it works n both 1.0 and 1.2 (1.1 not tested)
also...I have tried this on the fin in corneria (couldnt do it successfully...but then i have only be able to do it once anyway^_^)
also consider that it might work on ANY platform big enough WD to upsmash the way required
also...I have tried this on the fin in corneria (couldnt do it successfully...but then i have only be able to do it once anyway^_^)
also consider that it might work on ANY platform big enough WD to upsmash the way required
some ppl find it easier to WD on a slope
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Well, I don't have an AR, so can I ask one of you who have one to answer these? This could possibly help us in our discoveries.
1. What is the earliest frame you can attack after performing a WD?
2. How man frames do you need for Ness to actually start charging his yo-yo.
The more I try, the more I lose hope in being able to do this in battle. I haven't been able to get it ever since my first time.
1. What is the earliest frame you can attack after performing a WD?
2. How man frames do you need for Ness to actually start charging his yo-yo.
The more I try, the more I lose hope in being able to do this in battle.
I haven't been able to get it ever since my first time.
Rhyme
Smash Lord
last night while i was practicing the yyg, something i had never heard of before happened. i equiped the thunder jacket, then ran over to the computer(samus) and it did a phantom hit with the jacket. samus flashed with electricity and took 12 damage but did not go anywhere, then i took a short step fowards and the jacket still worked and blasted samus from the stage, even though it had already hit. so apperantly phantom hits do not use the jacket effects. just wanted to put that out there, wasnt sure if anyone else encountered the same thing.
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Lol
What a coincidence! That just happened to me yesterday! I'm serious. It really happened to Fox again. I just heard zap zap, and then looked at the training mode stats to see 2 hits and 35%. But this wasn't what happened to the other jackets.
What a coincidence! That just happened to me yesterday! I'm serious. It really happened to Fox again. I just heard zap zap, and then looked at the training mode stats to see 2 hits and 35%. But this wasn't what happened to the other jackets.
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Yeah, but doing it in battle would be really hard. Got the frame info yet? No one has beaten you to it, so you have a chance!
Rhyme
Smash Lord
your asking me? sry but i cant take credit for that. i have AR and basic recording equipment, i couldnt study frames in the game even if i wanted to.Yeah, but doing it in battle would be really hard. Got the frame info yet? No one has beaten you to it, so you have a chance!
its up to someone else unfortunatly for me. my guess however is that it will be the number of frames of hitlag for ness' thunder hit + 1 frame for the new hit to take place. so lets say you suffer...11 frames of hitlag because ness' b up has an electric element, then it would be 12 frames.
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Umm... actually, I was talking to Annoying. He was saying he would try to get the frame data, but was afraid someone would beat him to it.