Video proof Slipping/tripping is stupidest thing in the history of Smash

[RedMage8BT]

Sakurai: How dare you ban my genius items! SMASH IS SUPPOSED TO BE RANDOM. Hmm... what can I add that'll be truly random enough to piss off every competitive smasher?

And thus, tripping was born.

It's freakin' hilarious. I'll be having fun owning scrubs while you complain about tripping. Sound good?

 

[CrazyShaman]

Anyone saying it's fine or they like it for competitive play, is completely ********, and should be forced to trip every time they run until they get the point.

 

[Dragonboy2k4]

Rofl at you guys in here.Now characters everywhere can trip and do the same as Iam now atm.Seems more.."lifelike"if you ask me.Seeing anyone bust their a$$ in any event in real life is almost for sure to bring a Kool-Aid smile on your face.

 

[DMAJohnson]

Anyone saying it's fine or they like it for competitive play, is completely ********, and should be forced to trip every time they run until they get the point.

If real life was like Brawl:

"Hey, hold on, let me run and get a drink real quick..."
*Trips and falls over*
"D'oh!"

 

[MajinSweet]

lol at people defending tripping, every game has its flaws--don't need to be a fanboy and defend the most meaningless and annoying game mechanic ever. Maybe for the next smash game there could be a random chance of people switching there stock amount. Wouldn't that be cool!

 

[BoG]

I'm positive more people will hate it once they play the game. I know I will. But hey, it adds that extra layer of excitement at the cost of someone's self -esteem. A long, evenly matched battle takes place, you're pulling out some combos, ready to strike, dash to move in, trip, and you lose. It sucks... but for those spectating, it's epic!

 

[Luigi player]

Tripping should happen if you're making a mistake in combos or something and not random.

People saying "get over it" are making me angry >_> I agree that they should trip every time they try to run to get the point...

Everyone should get a free kick in Sakurais balls for making something like that. Seriously.

 

[Luigi player]

I'm positive more people will hate it once they play the game. I know I will. But hey, it adds that extra layer of excitement at the cost of someone's self -esteem. A long, evenly matched battle takes place, you're pulling out some combos, ready to strike, dash to move in, trip, and you lose. It sucks... but for those spectating, it's epic!

Well, it wouldn't matter that much on a match just for fun or against a friend or something, but in a tournament where the best players get money... no. It would totally suck.

I don't want to even think about it to lose against someone just because I tripped and then I can go home again. Just because of this... it just sucks so much.

 

[BoG]

Well, it wouldn't matter that much on a match just for fun or against a friend or something, but in a tournament where the best players get money... no. It would totally suck.

I don't want to even think about it to lose against someone just because I tripped and then I can go home again. Just because of this... it just sucks so much.

On the other hand, imagine if you're opponent is the one who trips, and you get to finish them off and win it all.
Still sucks, just not for you.

 

[Gilgamesh]

I really like how people can say "get over it". Random tripping is a horrible, horrible disadvantage for all Brawl players. It definately should not be taken lightly in the competitive scene.

A disadvantage for all Brawl players?

Disadvantage against who? Marvel vs. Capcom players?

 

[maxieman]

well ya still won

 

[WoodyWiggins]

A disadvantage for all Brawl players?

Disadvantage against who? Marvel vs. Capcom players?

. . .Them too yeah sure why not. What are you getting at?

 

[Gilgamesh]

. . .Them too yeah sure why not. What are you getting at?

What i was getting at, was that you can't imply that "everyone has a disadvantage", since then it stops being a disadvantage as such. That doesn't mean that i like tripping at all, I was just pointing that out.

 

[hippochinfat!!]

By farting...?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!??!?

 

[Rarzy]

tripping is fun. adds flavor and personality to the characters.

 

[WoodyWiggins]

What i was getting at, was that you can't imply that "everyone has a disadvantage", since then it stops being a disadvantage as such. That doesn't mean that i like tripping at all, I was just pointing that out.

Ah ha, gotcha. Maybe I should've worded that a tad better. Random tripping isn't a disadvantage that creates an imbalance among competitors. One person maybe able to go through the match and trip three times, while the other competitor may trip ten times. I hope thats better . While I'm at it, do you (anyone) think that certain characters may be less likely to trip than others. 'Cause thats what I think. Oh well. It doesn't REALLY matter 'cause BRAWL IS ON IT'S WAY (TO MAH BEDROOM).

 

[TeenLink2D]

I can see how that can become annoying. Especially if it happens and no one touches you lol.

I don't mind it, but wish there was an option to turn it off.

 

[Spellman]

Tripping just adds more strategy when you are playing the odds. Knowing characters that have higher chances of tripping with certain moves is smart if you can get good at doing those moves, but like with any move, if you fail to make contact, then you are putting yourself at a big risk for a smash. Most of the high frequency tripping moves aren't strategically spammable.

 

[Jackal478]

Hey ShortFuse, i'm going to tell you this now and leave.

If you're going to whine about it, go back to playing melee. Maybe then we wouldn't have to put up with stupid threads like this.

 

[Darkfur]

So yeah...

This thread is full of stupidity.

Have you ever been really good at a sport like football or something, and had someone who plays videogame sports titles or watches on tv talk to you like they know better than you, who actually practice and work hard in a field where the things they are trying be all know it all about really matter?

You see the thing here is... CASUAL SMASHERS have no place in this thread. This is about the COMPETITIVE SCENE and how it effects TOURNAMENTS WITH LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON THE LINE.

Now, if you are unable to understand that, your intelligence comes into question. Simply put:

IF YOU ARE A CASUAL SMASHER, THIS PROBLEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU! THEREFORE, YOUR POINTLESS INPUT IS NOT NEEDED AND IS JUST SPAM.

Thank you.

 

[kr3wman]

So yeah...

This thread is full of stupidity.

Have you ever been really good at a sport like football or something, and had someone who plays videogame sports titles or watches on tv talk to you like they know better than you, who actually practice and work hard in a field where the things they are trying be all know it all about really matter?

You see the thing here is... CASUAL SMASHERS have no place in this thread. This is about the COMPETITIVE SCENE and how it effects TOURNAMENTS WITH LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON THE LINE.

Now, if you are unable to understand that, your intelligence comes into question. Simply put:

IF YOU ARE A CASUAL SMASHER, THIS PROBLEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU! THEREFORE, YOUR POINTLESS INPUT IS NOT NEEDED AND IS JUST SPAM.

Thank you.

I don't see no one agruing about how it doesn't affect them at the casual level.

You my friend is talking non-sense.

 

[Darkfur]

I don't see no one agruing about how it doesn't affect them at the casual level.

You my friend is talking non-sense.

Really? I see plenty of people pretending to know what they are talking about.

 

[kr3wman]

Really? I see plenty of people pretending to know what they are talking about.

Pretending to know something and complaining about something is totally different, even if both can be linked.

Reading comprehension does wonder.

 

[Commodity]

I just lol when I see videos of people tripping.

Sakurai yet again proves hes an expert troll.

 

[Darkfur]

Pretending to know something and complaining about something is totally different, even if both can be linked.

Reading comprehension does wonder.

Yes, so practice it. =) This is great illustration of my point.

~_^ Don't tell a writer to work on reading comprehension

Also, read what I wrote. I'm stating that this thread has to do with tripping effects on the tournament scene. Casual players making comments about something they have no experience, say, or knowledge in is not required. That is the point of my post, and it has been happening in this thread.

Also, don't insult me, especially when I haven't attacked you once. It makes you look bad.

 

[Starscream]

I really like how people can say "get over it". Random tripping is a horrible, horrible disadvantage for all Brawl players. It definately should not be taken lightly in the competitive scene.

I can't be bothered to read 10 pages of whining but to posts like this...

Fine don't get over it. It really won't change a **** thing. It's in the game, adapt and overcome. Don't whine, it won't make tripping go away.

 

[Xengri]

So yeah...

This thread is full of stupidity.

Have you ever been really good at a sport like football or something, and had someone who plays videogame sports titles or watches on tv talk to you like they know better than you, who actually practice and work hard in a field where the things they are trying be all know it all about really matter?

You see the thing here is... CASUAL SMASHERS have no place in this thread. This is about the COMPETITIVE SCENE and how it effects TOURNAMENTS WITH LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON THE LINE.

Now, if you are unable to understand that, your intelligence comes into question. Simply put:

IF YOU ARE A CASUAL SMASHER, THIS PROBLEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU! THEREFORE, YOUR POINTLESS INPUT IS NOT NEEDED AND IS JUST SPAM.

Thank you.

Quoted for emphasize. People need to listen to this man.

I can see the reason to the whole get over it thing, since we can’t do anything about it.
But, to the people trying to pull off the crap that randomly tripping is anything but, a bad addition to a fighting game…

Learn to only comment on something you know about.
Tripping isn’t tactical, it’s not something you can plan on, it’s not possible to predict.
It’s something that’s random, unavoidable , and can cost you a stock. Thats a problem.
Even if the chance is low (so was doing a attack right as a exploding capsule spawned in front of you but, we still got rid of that).

Now, using certain moves that has a chance of causing tripping, that’s another story.
But, having a chance to randomly trip just cause you dashed?

Sure you can stay in the air more but, that’s just another limiter for players.

How exactly is limiting players a good thing for the competitive scene of a game?
Better yet, what does even tripping add?

 

[Senshuu]

OP: That trip SO ended the match for you, didn't it?

 

[Darkfur]

I can see the reason to the whole get over it thing, since we can’t do anything about it.
But, to the people trying to pull off the crap that randomly tripping is anything but, a bad addition to a fighting game…

I agree. Everyone does need to get over it since nothing can be done about it. But I also agree that tripping will be an uncontrollably unfair and potentially fatal factor in places where your skill should determine whether or not you get 10,000 dollars.

Still looking forward to Brawl though. I don't play in tournaments all that much, but I do play in them. Tripping doesn't bother me when I plan to play casually. I think it's a funny edition to the chaos. However, in the competitive scene I see it as nothing but an liability.

OP: That trip SO ended the match for you, didn't it?

*is standing behind you, jumps and catches something, taps you on the shoulder and hands it to you.*

Sorry, the point of this thread just sailed right over your head.

He isn't complaining about his match, he's talking about if it happened to someone in a tournament with a large amount of money on the line on the last stock.

 

[Somasu]

I stand with the people that dislike tripping. It pains me to see so many people telling those of us who play this game for money to just "get over it and deal with it" when something RANDOM causes an ill effect in a match and causes us to lose.

Don't tell me "Oh, it's in the game and there's nothing you can do about it!" I know it's in the game. I know there's nothing I can do about it. The problem here is the very fact that it even EXISTS in the first place? There was no point whatsoever to add such a gaming mechanic.

"But it's fair 'cause it gives a disadvantage to everyone!" Yes, this is true, but why would you want to just hand out disadvantages? Why not make things better for everyone instead? Would it really be FINE to you if someone came to your house and handed you a big, steaming bag of **** only to say "Oh, it's fine. I'm giving one of these out to everyone to be fair." No, it's NOT fine! Same with tripping! Just because it's bad for everyone doesn't change the fact that it's BAD!


Everyone, get it through your head. We are not complaining just because we can't take it out. We are not complaining just because we want to whine and not get over it. We are for SURE not saying that we're not gonna buy the game just because tripping is there. ALL we are saying is that tripping was a TERRIBLE idea for the game that should NOT have been done!

 

[Magmar's Wrath]

Oh honestly, stop telling him to get over it and stop whining.

This is a message board. If you're not allowed to post topics criticizing the game, then all you have is fanboyism and trolls. Let the man have his say.

Personally, I just don't understand why it's in the game. It makes no logical sense for the Brawlers to just randomly trip. I mean, on ice floors, running the wrong way up a conveyer belt, or a banana peel, those make sense. Random tripping on unstable surfaces makes so much more sense. Random tripping on any surface makes no sense.

I mean, if you want to be technical, Zelda and Peach would be the ones who trip most, because it's darn hard to run in high heels. For the life of me, I cannot picture Sonic, the speed-master he is, falling on his face for no apparent reason.

 

[sffadsad]

There does seem to be a way to tech out of the trip quickly however I only know that it is possible to roll forwards.

Taken from the "inkdrop" thread: http://www.zauron.net/images/SSBB/YoshiWeirdRoll.gif

As you can see Yoshi quit obviously trips but is able to instantly roll out of it. Someone's gotta find out how to do this.

 

[Terrorcon Blot]

He isn't complaining about his match, he's talking about if it happened to someone in a tournament with a large amount of money on the line on the last stock.

Well, then you should have known the risk when you signed up for the tournament.

 

[Somasu]

I stand with the people that dislike tripping. It pains me to see so many people telling those of us who play this game for money to just "get over it and deal with it" when something RANDOM causes an ill effect in a match and causes us to lose.

Don't tell me "Oh, it's in the game and there's nothing you can do about it!" I know it's in the game. I know there's nothing I can do about it. The problem here is the very fact that it even EXISTS in the first place? There was no point whatsoever to add such a gaming mechanic.

"But it's fair 'cause it gives a disadvantage to everyone!" Yes, this is true, but why would you want to just hand out disadvantages? Why not make things better for everyone instead? Would it really be FINE to you if someone came to your house and handed you a big, steaming bag of **** only to say "Oh, it's fine. I'm giving one of these out to everyone to be fair." No, it's NOT fine! Same with tripping! Just because it's bad for everyone doesn't change the fact that it's BAD!


Everyone, get it through your head. We are not complaining just because we can't take it out. We are not complaining just because we want to whine and not get over it. We are for SURE not saying that we're not gonna buy the game just because tripping is there. ALL we are saying is that tripping was a TERRIBLE idea for the game that should NOT have been done!

Quoting in order to not have this post of mine just shoved into the previous page.. because I want people to read it.


Also, if anyone at all tries to defend the whole "It's fair 'cause it happens to everyone" issue, then expect me to give you some ****. It'll be a-ok, of course, because I will give it to your entire neighborhood.

Then again, I'll get arrested for doing so.. Hmm.. I wonder.. Oh, perhaps because it's just a bad idea in the first place? Wonder what else was.



Blargh, tripping has just gotten me all ticked to know that this could happen in a money match of sorts. =/

 

[Darkfur]

Well, then you should have known the risk when you signed up for the tournament.

*facepalm*

If you don't know what you are talking about. Please don't post.

 

[Somasu]

Well, then you should have known the risk when you signed up for the tournament.

The point is, it shouldn't have to be a risk! Something so random such as this should NOT end up being a deciding factor of a tournament match with REAL MONEY involved!

Don't even give me Game and Watch's hammer or Peach's stichface. Yes, they are random as well.. but a good bit of us still don't like them! I've been in the competitive scene for a good while and I still despise it when a bob-omb or stich or 9 hammer is what gets the last stock on me in a close match ( or any match, for that matter).


Tripping is just a stupid, random feature with no real point, and that's everyone's problem with it.

 

[ifthisisitsobeit]

Well, then you should have known the risk when you signed up for the tournament.

That's like telling someone to not drive because of the risk of an accident. Care to elaborate?

 

[Terrorcon Blot]

Guilty Gear XX. Zappa. Ever play Zappa?

His entire moveset is based on random chance. On what move the game decides to give you, on what happens after a foe hits you. There's constants, but they're random. I have not only to think on the fly, but plan for what may not even happen.

So yeah, falling on your butt in a match where money is on the line? Sucks to be you if you knew that mechanic was there and it cost you the victory. Sometimes you can't make everything "not random" for a tournament.

 

[Darkfur]

Guilty Gear XX. Zappa. Ever play Zappa?

His entire moveset is based on random chance. On what move the game decides to give you, on what happens after a foe hits you. There's constants, but they're random. I have not only to think on the fly, but plan for what may not even happen.

So yeah, falling on your butt in a match where money is on the line? Sucks to be you if you knew that mechanic was there and it cost you the victory. Sometimes you can't make everything "not random" for a tournament.

Zappa also has to build up souls to use those moves. And it's possible to build up more souls than you want. And you can't get rid of them.

Besides, this is a character whose move is random. SEVERAL brawl characters have down tilts, dash attacks, or forward tilts that cause people to trip.

This is talking about dashing causing a trip. The trip is initiated by the game randomly, not by your opponent using a well placed and timed move on you.

 

[Xengri]

Guilty Gear XX. Zappa. Ever play Zappa?

His entire moveset is based on random chance. On what move the game decides to give you, on what happens after a foe hits you. There's constants, but they're random. I have not only to think on the fly, but plan for what may not even happen.

So yeah, falling on your butt in a match where money is on the line? Sucks to be you if you knew that mechanic was there and it cost you the victory. Sometimes you can't make everything "not random" for a tournament.

Hmm, maybe that's why Zappa was always in a low class huh?

The difference is, people can chose not to use Zappa (which, most of them did) while we have no choice.