Wario and the new infinite jumps

[Ramses99]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=173119

I'm sure most of you have already looked at this thread but I was curious to whether any of you have thought about how much this could help Wario (I've been too busy with exams to test it). The Wario section in that thread is pretty uncertain at the moment. So just share your thoughts and discoveries if any.

 

[Ryan-K]

I think it could be extremely useful especially since his dair can be jump buffered, and the fact that he moves very well in midair.

 

[Doctor Destructo]

I've heard of this back when it was supposed to be just Bowser, this looks very interesting, especially for Wario, who is already King of the Air.

 

[3GOD]

I think the timing is supposed to be very difficult, but I'm going to see how hard it is soon. If it's reasonable to pull off consistently (90% of the time or more), it would be awesome to spam Dair like this.

 

[PUDGE]

if u dont mind upload a video of wario doing this plz, i looked at the marth vid and it looks liek his feet touch the ground, just barely though

 

[PUDGE]

when they say 5) Buffer a jump just before you land on the ground.
does it mean hit ur jump button right before u hit the ground, or does buffer mean soemthing else ~_~


sry double post

 

[Ramses99]

WOOHOO, I got this to work with dair! PUDGE I believe buffering for this technique is when you input the jump command during the aeriel but you have to make sure the control stick isn't pointed in any direction (correct me if I'm wrong). But I'm certain on the dair. It works but the timing is difficult. Oh, and I don't have any recording devices, sorry.

 

[Blue sHell]

We should be looking into this alot more as Wario mains. When I get home from work I'll try to cook up some nice setups or mindgames with this. But really SJR is seriously deal and it's worth learning with absoutely every character you play as. Wario's SJR won't be as good as Snake's Wall of Manliness or Bowser's ridiculous infnite fair/klaw mindgames, but I'm sure Wario has some good stuff with it too. He is the king of the air, eh.

I get out of work at 11 and I'm bored

 

[PhantomX]

Wall of Manliness? Haha. Man, wtf... Snake doesn't need more advanced techs.

 

[PhantomX]

So I was messing around w/ this in training mode, and it seems to me that this is pretty worthless with up airs and back airs, but might have potential with forward airs and neutrals airs (for edge guarding especially). The bair and upair all have too much lag after them (and wario's double jump is pretty tiny) ito be chained multiple times.

To pull off the "infinite" (in this case, double) double jump with the back air, you have to initiate the back air almost at the peak of the two jumps (a little lower for up air), meaning that if you double jump again, you won't be able to keep chaining either of them.

I did manage to nair offstage, weave back and do another nair offstage (I messed up after this, don't care to practice all that much), so if someone could get it down consistently, they could technically make a wall of nairs (and I assume fairs as well) to either rack up damage of gimp, and if they feel like it, chase before biking back up.

I haven't figured out the timing of this for down airs yet (nvm, I just got it... had to fastfall to pull it off), so I don't know if they can be chained consecutively on wario's diminutive double jump.

 

[handsockpuppet]

hmmm... does this work with the tap jump? and how tough is it to pull off? also, is his second jump too short for this to be used as recovery? it seems brawl has many glitches/techs, but we need to brush up on them all. unfortunately, nothing yet is as good as WD or SHFFLing.

 

[PhantomX]

You can't use this as a recovery, in fact, it hinders your recovery b/c if you get knocked away during an IDJ aerial, you're left w/ just the bike jump and up b. I would assume it works with tap jump as well, and the timing is pretty precise (hard to pull off... as shown by the fact that I can never do it multiple times in a row), so I'm not sure how useful it would be in competitive play (unless you can make it like second nature to you, haha).

 

[handsockpuppet]

I'm not liking those answers. perhaps this glitch was overrated.

 

[PhantomX]

I think in Wario's case it is overrated, but it could be amazing for those characters that have huge double jumps (Yoshi, Lucas, Snake has the Wall of Manliness apparently, etc).

But hey, it remains to be seen how useful it actually is (when someone masters it), besides, at worst it'll help extend a combo by keeping you airborne for another jump.