Frank Curtis
Smash Cadet
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... Not really.I'm currently better with Ike and Roy than Marth, which is funny because very few people would say that.
Well, to an extent I can agree, it's just that most people who main both Ike and Marth will tell you that they have an easier time with Marth. Well, at least in Brawl maybe. PM has made the cast alot more balanced so maybe we'll see more players excelling at Ike more than Marth or Roy more than Marth (Under the assumption that they main all three of course)... Not really.
I can more consistently execute longer combo strings with Ike than Marth. I'm sure there's a lot of players who mold naturally to Ike's hard hits and QD catch-ups but not to Marth's DD Grabcombo gimp game. They're very different after all.
LOL, I know. I'm having that problem as well. Not used to Quickdraw actually being useful. Quickdraw past your opponent and immediately up smash. It'll throw them off guard. You can also jump out of it for a Nair, or jump out and turn around for a Bair.Sadly I want to improve my Marth to the level of my Ike so that I can handle certain match-ups, but my inability to telekinesis myself across half a stage with Side-B gets me down.
Two last things so that I don't take this any more off-topic.LOL, I know. I'm having that problem as well. Not used to Quickdraw actually being useful. Quickdraw past your opponent and immediately up smash. It'll throw them off guard. You can also jump out of it for a Nair, or jump out and turn around for a Bair.
That's actually where I got that idea to jump out of QD and UpSmash out of QD. lol Quite the useful forum. I still can't figure out how to grab out of QD though. It just forces me to attack.Two last things so that I don't take this any more off-topic.
a) You should come check out the Ike forums
Wouldn't Mario be the Smash Bros version of Ryu, having the Shoto B moves since the original?Because he's the smash bros version of Ryu
I dunno. While Mario does have some Ryu traits, Lucario just has a little more.Wouldn't Mario be the Smash Bros version of Ryu, having the Shoto B moves since the original?
So I did the Survey but have to say that I don't like how its set up. if it was more of a tier system A, B, C, D, kind of thing, it would have been easier. But I also don't have extensive experiece with all of the characters so my point of view is not worth very much. I basically said that Lucas was 1 and Olimar is 41. Lucas is 1 because he has uber aggro and bugs that make him better. Olimar is 41, because he is crazy buggy and unreliable. I'm sure he will jump up the tier list when he's tweaked but for 3.0, he's only good against people who havent played against him yet.Nearly 50 people have voted in the past two weeks and itd be awesome if 100 people could participate in this community involved 'tier list'. Just trying to gather the most recent opinions on character placement and then I'll make a tier list combining these results with tournament results. Im posting in a lot of threads so there can be more more opinions as that will reflect more accurately. If you havent voted yet please do! (just 3.0 opinions please)
The first one has you rank each character individually 1-41, I arranged it to what I think so it can be easier but itll still take a little time.
<a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GDPZ53B">Click here to take survey</a>
If you dont care as much and/or dont wanna spend as much time then this one is just rankings based on tier.
<a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GD3NDM9">Click here to take survey</a>
Thanks guys!
There are both types of surveys in there,, I know that its difficult and no-one knows every character in depth, its just meant to get a general 'consensus' to players status's as of now. I like having both surveys as the long 1-41 ranking list gets a more thoughtful voting for which characters are better than others while the tier survey gets more people as it is easier to fill out so a greater amount of opinion is involved. Plus sometimes characters are viewed as 'high' tier but then 'lower' tier characters have good MUs against them so it creates a more holistic view.So I did the Survey but have to say that I don't like how its set up. if it was more of a tier system A, B, C, D, kind of thing, it would have been easier. But I also don't have extensive experiece with all of the characters so my point of view is not worth very much. I basically said that Lucas was 1 and Olimar is 41. Lucas is 1 because he has uber aggro and bugs that make him better. Olimar is 41, because he is crazy buggy and unreliable. I'm sure he will jump up the tier list when he's tweaked but for 3.0, he's only good against people who havent played against him yet.