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Why is Sirlin doing a tutorial for SSBB?

Barge

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Because people who bought the game don't know how to look in the manual
 

tomvanharmelen

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YOU MUST RECOVER!!!!

So anyway..
i think he should use the names of attacks from smashboards simply because anyone that wants to know more about Advanced smash 101 will get to this website sooner or later. that way the transition between "nooby basic brawl pikachu thunder spam" to "well hi thar, Snake DACUS Spam " will be a bit easier...

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He should stick to the games he mentioned early on in that vid.
or... post his FC here so he can get his daily FALCON PAWNCH to the face.
 

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Pretty informative "basics" so far, since it's only at part 3, I can imagine there's going to be a lot more to this guide, but he seems to be laying everything out pretty good.
 

Black_Heretic

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Some friends and I made this into a drinking game, everytime he calls a tilt or aerial an

*insert direction Plus A*

we take a shot...

we were WASTED lol
 

M15t3R E

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Ya know it's funny, he actually sounds like a n00b while he's trying to provide advice for n00bs.
"Pikachu's lightning attack and Falco's teleport attack"... I'm not gonna watch any more of his nooby tutorial vids.
 

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I've never seen a marth use a down tilt into a B to break a shield.
 
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so people stop *****ing about Brawl or misquoting his articles?
 

The Great Leon

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wow, Sirlin is full of himself.
his grin was pretty great when he was listing his credentials. but if i were him id be cocky too.

i like it. it feels like he's trying to mature the brawl scene by treating it as a legit fighter.
 

Toby.

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It's fairly petty to assume that he's only doing it to stroke his own ego. Laughing at his naming of moves is foolish as well. Regardless of what he calls them, they still have the same function.
Who cares if his knowledge is basic? He's just providing an overview.
 

Spellman

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Wow you guys.

There's many of you who follow his "play to win" attitude like religiously, but there has been this weird assumption that he's never played or had any interest in Smash. It's kind of the backbone of any argument for when someone brings up Sirlin's thoughts on fighting games, then someone comes out and says, "He knows nothing about Smash." True that you never hear of him in the competitive community but that doesn't mean he doesn't know jack.

Anyways, he speaks a lot more clearly then any user on any forum has ever spoken, like, I could imagine playing Smash for the first time and actually learning something from this. It's really annoying when you first come on the forums and all you see is, "bair nair dair into shuffle fair care bair stare wd cg" and it's hard to know where to look when trying to disect all those definitions. And it all comes complete with video footage and examples of where the techniques can be useful. So far, it seems a lot more informative then the Smash Bros. Dojo blog, and much clearer then scouring forums for answers. I'm totally looking forward to the rest of the tutorial.

Anyways, it's a tutorial, if you're expecting to learn something new from it, don't, because we've discovered mostly everything. It's to teach new people how to do these things. And it's totally possible for someone to change their views on Smash.
 

SketchHurricane

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@Spellman
I think some of the Sirlin bashing is warranted. I mean, anyone remotely serious about smash knows about this site. And this is Sirlin we're talking about here. There is really no excuse for a guy like him - someone greatly educated about competitive fighting - to largely ignore an authority like Smashboards while trying to contribute to Smash Bros. It's kind of a blow to the face of this community for him to act like he is an authority while pretty much ignoring everything that goes on here.

He should at least be mentioning things like "Forward + A is often referred to as Fair", and the fact that he doesn't really implies that he knows little about Smash's competitive scene. If he does, he's not showing it. To most people, Sirlin just comes off as a guy who knows his competitive fighters, and thus thinks what knowledge he himself can come up with on Smash is somehow automatically relevant, with no need to reference the established community.

Yes, Sirlin knows his stuff. Yes, Sirlin is trying to do something positive for Smash. But he is still all but a stranger to the competitive scene.
 

z3r0C0oL

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You guys are F'N geeks. Who gives a **** what he calls them.

The video is for newbie players, you think they know wtf Illusion, Phantasm, or tilts are?


z0mg, he called Pikachus Lightning attack.....a lightning attack : /
 

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Hm, yeah. Could be directed toward SRK members who will watch him and take him seriously. It's not meant to make people better at smash if they already pla... It's to teach people how to play the game. I mean, he is making perfect sense. I agree with Spellman.
 

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Lolz, that's sad. Smash is pinball now. THEY EVEN HAVE PINBALL BUMPERS IN THE GAME! 8D

 

Barge

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He could at least call the moves by their real names. Its even listed in the dam booklet.

Pikachus Thunder >:O
 

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@Spellman
I think some of the Sirlin bashing is warranted. I mean, anyone remotely serious about smash knows about this site. And this is Sirlin we're talking about here. There is really no excuse for a guy like him - someone greatly educated about competitive fighting - to largely ignore an authority like Smashboards while trying to contribute to Smash Bros. It's kind of a blow to the face of this community for him to act like he is an authority while pretty much ignoring everything that goes on here.

He should at least be mentioning things like "Forward + A is often referred to as Fair", and the fact that he doesn't really implies that he knows little about Smash's competitive scene. If he does, he's not showing it. To most people, Sirlin just comes off as a guy who knows his competitive fighters, and thus thinks what knowledge he himself can come up with on Smash is somehow automatically relevant, with no need to reference the established community.

Yes, Sirlin knows his stuff. Yes, Sirlin is trying to do something positive for Smash. But he is still all but a stranger to the competitive scene.
Mmm, there are only 3 of the 10 parts of the tutorial and it's possible that terminology will still be covered in a separate section. Again, the terminology is a lot clearer at this point, which makes me happy.

It's a training guide on how to play Super Smash Bros. Brawl and how to use attacks and defensive maneuvers most effectively, not "the competitive scene". He referenced how items and assist trophies affect the game in part 1.
 

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Mmm, there are only 3 of the 10 parts of the tutorial and it's possible that terminology will still be covered in a separate section. Again, the terminology is a lot clearer at this point, which makes me happy.

It's a training guide on how to play Super Smash Bros. Brawl and how to use attacks and defensive maneuvers most effectively, not "the competitive scene". He referenced how items and assist trophies affect the game in part 1.
The only reason I mention the competitive scene is because it's freaking Sirlin. Who the balls is gonna even care what he has to say if they don't already know who he is? I mean seriously? What ******* is gonna look up a Youtube video to learn how to play the game they just bought? I would seriously slap the hell out of you if you choose Youtube over the instruction manual.

If anything, just remember when your playing Melee to be careful not to get caught in the "Blinkey" state from an air dodge!

Yes, that's right. He went from talking about controlling space, to calling the helpless animation a "blinkey" state.

/beingadick
 

ptown

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this isn't a basics video: this is advanced brawl.

lulz.

and btw, this is still a good video(for a ****ty game). **** you haters with no appreciation for the basics.
 

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I liked how he made Zelda pop the Smashville Balloon XD.
 
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