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Buddhahobo

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Y'know, if there were grooms or if this was an all-groom banner, I wonder if Lil Puddin would go crazy over it. :p
FEH is a world where scarring doesn't exist on anyone who isn't Ogma and everyone waxes on a daily basis, from the most pampered royal to the lowly lumberjack in the woods, so probably.

Like seriously, other than some facial hair with Barte's mustache, Zephiel's goatee, and Lloyd's stubble, every guy in FEH is as hairless and scarless as Catria's inexplicably toneless thighs.

wut is dat even

Super Smash Anime?
Sprite Based Super Smash Brothers.

Contrary to what it may have looked like, there are only four anime characters in it; Naruto, Ichigo, Luffy, and Goku. IIRC they had originally just grabbed them wholeclothed from JUS, but at some point actually went and remade the sprites and movesets.
 

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FEH is a world where scarring doesn't exist on anyone who isn't Ogma and everyone waxes on a daily basis, from the most pampered royal to the lowly lumberjack in the woods, so probably.

Like seriously, other than some facial hair with Barte's mustache, Zephiel's goatee, and Lloyd's stubble, every guy in FEH is as hairless and scarless as Catria's inexplicably toneless thighs.
Umm, Niles? He's missing an eye. Also, Gunter, who has a scar on the left side of his face and I think Hinata has a little X-shaped scar on his face too. But, yeah, not a lot of characters with scars or men with facial hair. This is why Ashnard, Basilio, Cervantes, Duessel, Greil -- it looks like he has a scar on the left side of his head --, Lorenz, Marcus, etc. would be welcomed.

Anyway, bride Cordelia's special art looks so cute! That wink and those hearts.

She's not going to show up when I summon nor will a non-Raigh and non-Sophia red mage... Or either will and they'll be -Atk...
 
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Minecraft is like the most inoffensive game, I don't understand the hate.
I'm pretty sure the hate stirred from the arguably childish fanbase
Or something along those lines.
It's a lovely game, really.
Edit:Whoops, forgot what I originally came to post.
What do you gorls think about tournament oversaturation? It's been a common topic on twitter lately and Nakat even made a video on it. I'd be interested to hear what y'all think.
There was 4 majors in May, the Japan one, Royal Flush, Greninja Saga and Momocon. It's ridiculous, imo.
 
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Graduated from university today! To think I got here when I first started university. Time sure flies!
 

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Just threw all my F2P Orbs at the wedding banner, trying for my voice actress waifu Cherami Leigh Caeda. I accidentally clicked YES to summon from the same batch after using all blues and got Cordelia. I was never a fan of hers, but wow, she's gorgeous. +SPD/-RES. So for once my luck has blessed me with an actually-usable unit. I already have Quadsuna, but perhaps I'll have a less gimmicky archer. She's essentially a better stronger Takumi, but with less bulk. She can still take a hit, though... Unlike Quadsuna.

I was going to do Caeda with a blade tome, to act as a less nukey Mae... But to be honest, Mae's appeal is not her art but her voice lines/being exactly like Lucy Heartfelia.

Best of luck to you gorls.

BTW the stats for the new bride gorls are up on the actually accurate FE Wiki that also doesn't freeze tabs for no good reason. Basically...

Coredlia is the same as her flying counterpart, minus some bulk (ranged BST).
Lyn is Maria, but with less attack and more speed.
Caeda is Spring Lucina with +1 SPD/-ATK and her bulk is shuffled around to favor RES. So Sanaki+Spring Lucina.
Harlot Charlotte is a WAY strong lance unit with OK-good speed and just-OK bulk.

So all the gorls are great. Lyn is the lamest of the bunch. But it's not her fault, she's Lyn, after all. :^)
 

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Got 2 5*'s somehow, Bride Caeda and Lachesis. The Lachesis I got right after sending home a 4* one, and I think she knows that I won't send away a 5*. She wants me. She's my Tharja/Rhajat/Faye. Send help immediately.
Their boons/banes are something idrc since I don't plan on using either of them, both of them had their Res affected somehow I think.
Charlotte is the only one I want, and I just need her Wind Boost. Buuuut she also looks like a really decent unit so if I do end up with her I'm gonna be hesitant about throwing her at a husbando that'll use it properly.
Me: I need her for Wind Boost
Puddin: Do you need it for husbando
Me: He's underage so husbando isn't the right word but okey
Puddin: Hector's an adult by the end of Blazing Sword
Me: But I don't even have a Hector...
Puddin: Who's the husbando then
Me:
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(I didn't want to use Darting Blow but I remembered after summoning a few thousand 3* Hinatas that Fury could also maybe work so nevermind Charlotte.)
 

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Morning girls. How's everyone doing? :4zelda:

Going to be doing the usual today, which of course is reading about materials and construction in Design. And trying to think how I could improve my Neutral Game.

While of course watching MSM99 on 2GGaming's Twitch.

 

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The bride units have surprisingly decent stats

I'll actually train up a Charlotte if I manage to summon her. I thought she was going to be powerful but slow because wind boost boosts her spd, but she's a pretty decent glass cannon with high hp

They actually stayed pretty true to how she was in fates
 

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Talk about being absurdly lucky...

Got all of the Brides but Charlotte.

In total;
Colorless: 5* Bride Lyn, 5* Bride Cordelia, 4* Wrys 4* Virion, 3* Clarine
Blue: 5* Bride Caeda, 4* Odin, 4* Mae, 3* Odin

Edit:Whoops, forgot what I originally came to post.
What do you gorls think about tournament oversaturation? It's been a common topic on twitter lately and Nakat even made a video on it. I'd be interested to hear what y'all think.
There was 4 majors in May, the Japan one, Royal Flush, Greninja Saga and Momocon. It's ridiculous, imo.
Eh. It's as stupid an argument now as it was the first time I heard it.

Player burnout is a problem, yes. "Tournament oversaturation" is not.

Let's look at the locations of those 4 majors for instance; the Japan one is in Japan obviously, Royal Flush is in New Jersey, Greninja Saga is in Southern California, and Momocon was in Georgia. The closest any two of these majors are to another is about 830 miles. That's about the distance from Barcelona to Munich. Royal Flush and Greninja Saga are further away from each other than Dublin is to Moscow. They serve entirely different geographical areas.

The response to player burnout should be the (typically sponsored now) player going "Ya know, maybe I should just not go to so many cross country tournaments in a single month, I could always go to the one next week", not "We need to reduce the number of tournaments around the entire world." Four majors in May presents options, not limitations.

Like, what are you going to do, tell the Midwest they can't have their monthly regional because it's become "too popular" or "too appealing" and there's this big tournament in Sweden the week before and a 2GG Saga in SoCal the week after?
 

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Blew all 130 of my f2p orbs trying to get Cordelia.

Elise ruined my pity chance and then I got 2 Lyn's back to back.
I caved in and bought 20 orbs when I ran out and got Cordelia from the last orb lol.
**** pulling greys
 

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Minecraft is like the most inoffensive game, I don't understand the hate.
because creepy internet dudes derive great joy from making fun of ten year olds

Talk about being absurdly lucky...

Got all of the Brides but Charlotte.

In total;
Colorless: 5* Bride Lyn, 5* Bride Cordelia, 4* Wrys 4* Virion, 3* Clarine
Blue: 5* Bride Caeda, 4* Odin, 4* Mae, 3* Odin



Eh. It's as stupid an argument now as it was the first time I heard it.

Player burnout is a problem, yes. "Tournament oversaturation" is not.

Let's look at the locations of those 4 majors for instance; the Japan one is in Japan obviously, Royal Flush is in New Jersey, Greninja Saga is in Southern California, and Momocon was in Georgia. The closest any two of these majors are to another is about 830 miles. That's about the distance from Barcelona to Munich. Royal Flush and Greninja Saga are further away from each other than Dublin is to Moscow. They serve entirely different geographical areas.

The response to player burnout should be the (typically sponsored now) player going "Ya know, maybe I should just not go to so many cross country tournaments in a single month, I could always go to the one next week", not "We need to reduce the number of tournaments around the entire world." Four majors in May presents options, not limitations.

Like, what are you going to do, tell the Midwest they can't have their monthly regional because it's become "too popular" or "too appealing" and there's this big tournament in Sweden the week before and a 2GG Saga in SoCal the week after?
I agree with anti's take on it. He questioned why people were even that upset about it because playing Smash for a living is like, so much better than a desk job because you get to travel for free for playing a game you like.
 

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I got a summoning session with 4 clear orbs and summoned them all.


I didn't get a SINGLE focus unit. WHO SAW THAT ONE COMING????

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She's essentially a better stronger Takumi, but with less bulk. She can still take a hit, though... Unlike Quadsuna.
More like a better archer in general.

Bride Cordelia is the best offensive archer in the game now. She's in the same position as Kagero, but if Kagero also had high speed which would have made Gaius and Saizo unable to compete. -Atk or -Spd, even if it were possible, -Atk and -Spd bride Cordelia would be at worst, on par with Jeorge, Klein, and Takumi. 35 attack and speed makes her the strongest archer and her other stats aren't even bad; lowest HP by 1 point compared to Kagero's even lower HP to the other thieves, still higher defense than Niles, and decent resistance.

Faye, Gordin, Niles, and kind of Rebecca still have their use as defensive archers. Except for Niles, you'd have to inherit a lot of stuff for the others to counter magic or physical units in Gordon's case. Vanilla Setsuna and Virion being regular archers isn't great when Jeorge, Klein, and Takumi do better as that and are now the second-best offensive archers.

I expected bride Cordelia to be fast, but I didn't expect her to have the same attack as she did as a Pegasus Knight. 33 attack was the highest I think they would have gone since none of the archers before her had above 33 attack. Welp, she broke that by having 35. She's limited, but people will spend money to get her knowing she's the strongest archer in the game now and that nobody knows who the next archer will be that will have at least 33 attack and 33 speed.

On the bright side, bride Charlotte has the highest potential to be the strongest Brave Lance infantry. The closest we got were Donnel (35 attack and 29 speed) and Sharena (32 attack and 32 speed). Bride Charlotte has 36 attack and 32 speed which basically makes her an infantry Hinoka. Just slap Brave Lance, Life & Death, and Desperation, movement skill, or -breaker on her and watch her destroy everything.

On the down side, I did not even get a different red mage as a consolation summon...
4* Cain: +Atk, -HP. This is the fourth Cain and he's slightly better than the previous who is -Spd, but also +Atk.

4* M!Corrin: +Atk, -Def -Spd. Not sure I want to sacrifice his defense for attack. Didn't work so well with +HP, -Def Chrom, +Res, -Def Cain, or +Atk, -Def Florina. Just gonna keep using neutral M!Corrin.

4* Florina: +Res, -Spd. Aw, come on, really? You're even slower despite being one of the slowest flyers! I don't even have -Spd Beruka, Cherche, etc., to make this look less bad.

3* Matthew: +Spd, -Res.

4* Reinhardt: +Res, -HP. Cool, you're new...

3* Florina: +Atk, -HP. Probably less fragile than +Atk, -Def Florina.

3* Gordin: +Res, -Atk. Finally have someone with Brave Bow to give to since this is a terrible boon and bane compared to +Spd, -Def 4* Gordin.

4*, second Reinhardt: +HP, -Def.

3* Setsuna: average. Finally, a Setsuna who isn't -Atk or -Spd!

4* Titania: +Spd, -Res. Sorry, Beni.

Also, I now have 200/200 units. I actually had to get rid of one, a Matthew since I just summoned one, in between these summons.
 
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I love how well animated this is. I'll definitely pick this game up when it comes out on the Switch. Or get it for my birthday since it comes out a day before my birthday. :p
 

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i was pulling blues just for charlotte but i got ninian instead. feh please im not eliwood

(ps i ran out of orbs send help)
 

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Oh good, Fire Emblem is the topic again
In that case
Here's me repeating information that's already everywhere cause I wanna feel special :^)

Famitsu revealed 3 new characters for FE Warriors
One is Marth (in his Shadow Dragon design) which was tooootally unexpected what a shock
The other two are original characters, named Shion and Lian. So that's 4 confirmed sword characters, including Chrom
The scans also confirmed that the game would be comprised of characters mostly from Awakening, Fates, and Shadow Dragon. The reason they didn't load the game full of series protagonists is because that would cause a ton of sword users, and it would lack variety. Though I wouldn't be surprised if more games were featured through DLC

Other details:
- The game is 70% complete
- The weapon triangle and class system is in
- There will be supports, but no marriage, just friendships
- 2 other original (?) characters were mentioned, Darios and Yuana
- You can switch characters during battle
- There are archers and mages
- There will be more characters included than many other Musou titles


 
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Oh look E3 came early
Not really a fan of the OC's since they look even more generic than Alfonse and Sharena but if they're fun to play idm
Also lel at the comments not understanding how Warriors games work

Edit: I meant to type this up like an hour ago but I got busy, guess Burgundy beat me to it.
And
- There will be more characters included than many other Musou titles
They said it'll have more characters at the start than any other crossover game did at launch. So expect 15ish
 
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Oh look E3 came early
Not really a fan of the OC's since they look even more generic than Alfonse and Sharena but if they're fun to play idm
Also lel at the comments not understanding how Warriors games work

Edit: I meant to type this up like an hour ago but I got busy, guess Burgundy beat me to it.
And

They said it'll have more characters at the start than any other crossover game did at launch. So expect 15ish
I would've preferred it if they just reused Alfonse and Sharena tbh
At least then we'd have a lance user
Idk how they'll make 4 sword users unique, especially when 2 of them look exactly the same and the other two literally have the same sword

Aaanyways, I summoned in Heroes and it went pretty well :D
5 Star Cecilia - literally all I wanted from the T Weapon banner and I'm happy. +Spd/-Def. Almost perfect nature, but still really good and I'll be happy to use her. She was initially gonna be fodder if I got her but I got a good nature so I'm gonna keep her.
3 Star f!Corrin - +Spd/-Def. ehhh kinda ruins her potential as a tank. Good SI fodder though

At this point I switched to the Bride banner since I didn't need anything else from the T Weapon banner

4 Star Jagen - +Spd/-Atk. I'm preeeety sure this is the same nature as the last one I got, lol
3 Star Matthew - +Spd/-Def. ehh
Hooray for good summons ;w;
 
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Between my two accounts I've spent 40 orbs and I have no waifus to show for it ;-;

I wish I could buy orbs....

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Got Bride Charlotte and Caeda

Charlotte is +atk -spd, which makes me sad. I won't train her up in case I get a better nature before the banner ends. I want a decent Charlotte, so she can become a staple member of my team. I need ha wedding dress and terrifying face in all of my teams

Caeda is +spd -res, which means she has 40 spd lol. Idk what I'll do with her tbh

I also got some random 5* units, including Catria, Abel, Lachesis, and a second Klein
 

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On top of Fire Emblem stuff, apparently Smash Bros 4 Switch leaked. If it's legitimate, we're looking at character specific break the targets, at least one 3DS stage, and Smash Run to look forward to.

They said it'll have more characters at the start than any other crossover game did at launch. So expect 15ish
It'll be somewhat interesting to see if that ends up being the case. HW starting with 13 is only true in a technical sense, tbh. 13 individual characters yeah, but, what was it, 20 unique weapons or something?

We can't not have the amiibo characters even if four of them aren't in the original FE game, Awakening, or Fates, and Xander and Ryoma we know are in. Add 2-4 due to the OCs and that's already 13-15 characters.

I would've preferred it if they just reused Alfonse and Sharena tbh
Or just give us Lana again. She even has a spear if they don't want to have her take up a mage spot. :p
 
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There are people complaining about how their -Atk or -Spd bride Cordelia is bad or whatever boon/bane combo like +Def, -Res bride Cordelia. Bride Cordelia with -Spd is still better than Jeorge, Klein, and Takumi; she'd be stronger while being just as fast. -Atk gives her the same attack, but she's faster! What are you even complaining about!?

I want her because she's cute as a button and because she'd be a good archer since I don't have Jeorge, Klein, or Takumi. If I don't get her, game, then I better get eventual bow knight Selena! If I can't have high offenses, then I better get the potentially tankiest archer in the goddamn game! Toughest tsundere walling people out with her Tsun Bow.

Also, Aversa for GHB unit after Camus, please. I need a different red mage.
 
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There are people complaining about how their -Atk or -Spd bride Cordelia is bad or whatever boon/bane combo like +Def, -Res bride Cordelia. Bride Cordelia with -Spd is still better than Jeorge, Klein, and Takumi; she'd be stronger while being just as fast. -Atk gives her the same attack, but she's faster! What are you even complaining about!?

I want her because she's cute as a button and because she'd be a good archer since I don't have Jeorge, Klein, or Takumi. If I don't get her, game, then I better get eventual bow knight Selena! If I can't have high offenses, then I better get the potentially tankiest archer in the goddamn game! Toughest tsundere walling people out with her Tsun Bow.

Also, Aversa for GHB unit after Camus, please. I need a different red mage.
I don't get why people complain as if a bad boon/bane on a 5 Star ruins them or something. It's only a 3 point difference. Yeah it's lame but it's no reason to not use or get rid of 5 Star

On top of Fire Emblem stuff, apparently Smash Bros 4 Switch leaked. If it's legitimate, we're looking at character specific break the targets, at least one 3DS stage, and Smash Run to look forward to.



It'll be somewhat interesting to see if that ends up being the case. HW starting with 13 is only true in a technical sense, tbh. 13 individual characters yeah, but, what was it, 20 unique weapons or something?

We can't not have the amiibo characters even if four of them aren't in the original FE game, Awakening, or Fates, and Xander and Ryoma we know are in. Add 2-4 due to the OCs and that's already 13-15 characters.



Or just give us Lana again. She even has a spear if they don't want to have her take up a mage spot. :p
It could be a legit leak but there's a lot of reasons to not believe it. If you look close at the models, the lighting makes them look like they were ripped from Smash 3DS. The font on the names is weird. Plus it should just be a rule not to believe leaks unless there's absolutely no way they're fake

That said, it'd be stupid to believe a Smash Switch isn't coming, and that they wouldn't include Smash Run or 3DS stages
 
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I discovered Ditty's Android App and the first and only thing I had to do was:

Got Bride Charlotte and Caeda

Charlotte is +atk -spd, which makes me sad. I won't train her up in case I get a better nature before the banner ends. I want a decent Charlotte, so she can become a staple member of my team. I need ha wedding dress and terrifying face in all of my teams

Caeda is +spd -res, which means she has 40 spd lol. Idk what I'll do with her tbh

I also got some random 5* units, including Catria, Abel, Lachesis, and a second Klein
You got a Goddess Caeda??? how dar u gorlieee

Just give her a Blade Tome and watch as she doubles all the gorls w/ Eirka's help. Death Blow along with +3 ATK/+4 SPD/+2 RES (and then +4 DEF maybe) means everything dies unless it's a person with Wary Fighter or maybe a green unit. She'll be top tier because her dress, character art, and voice actress are amazing.

I threw 39.99 at the banner in hopes of getting Harlot or TrueWaifu. Ninian pops up for my first blue pull SO OK THEN clearly Antonykun Antonykun has sent this dragon heaux to me. I keep pulling blues until an all 5 grey summon pool pops up. The 1st one I get is a +ATK/-HP Cordelia. I am not buying any more orbs.

So I have +ATK/-HP Cordelia and +SPD/-RES Cordelia. Clearly Cordelia is trying to be my waifu. Pls remove this heaux, she cannot be my true waifu because my true waifu is TrueWaifu Bride Caeda. Buuuut since her art is top tier I guess she can be side-waifu. IDK how to build her, though. I have plenty of bow fodders (Brave Bow, Silver Bow, whatever) lying around. I wish I had Firesweep, she seems like she'd really appreciate it.
 

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I discovered Ditty's Android App and the first and only thing I had to do was:


You got a Goddess Caeda??? how dar u gorlieee

Just give her a Blade Tome and watch as she doubles all the gorls w/ Eirka's help. Death Blow along with +3 ATK/+4 SPD/+2 RES (and then +4 DEF maybe) means everything dies unless it's a person with Wary Fighter or maybe a green unit. She'll be top tier because her dress, character art, and voice actress are amazing.

I threw 39.99 at the banner in hopes of getting Harlot or TrueWaifu. Ninian pops up for my first blue pull SO OK THEN clearly Antonykun Antonykun has sent this dragon heaux to me.
I keep pulling blues until an all 5 grey summon pool pops up. The 1st one I get is a +ATK/-HP Cordelia. I am not buying any more orbs.

So I have +ATK/-HP Cordelia and +SPD/-RES Cordelia. Clearly Cordelia is trying to be my waifu. Pls remove this heaux, she cannot be my true waifu because my true waifu is TrueWaifu Bride Caeda. Buuuut since her art is top tier I guess she can be side-waifu. IDK how to build her, though. I have plenty of bow fodders (Brave Bow, Silver Bow, whatever) lying around. I wish I had Firesweep, she seems like she'd really appreciate it.
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I don't get why people complain as if a bad boon/bane on a 5 Star ruins them or something. It's only a 3 point difference. Yeah it's lame but it's no reason to not use or get rid of 5 Star
I will give the benefit of the doubt that since she's new, people might not know her stats, but when it's in a thread that had datamined stats posted and people raving about how she's the best archer with 35 attack and speed where even a -Atk or -Spd Cordelia is at worst, a normal Jeorge, Klein, and Takumi, it's kind of hard to say she's not good because she's -Atk or -Spd.

Anyway, there was a thread about it on Serene's Forest questioning about the obsession with boon and banes. It's just that there are people out there who only care about winning and get really picky about stuff. And I just read post yesterday about how Charlotte and berserkers in Fates (and maybe in general) are absolutely worthless because of their low accuracy. A response to that is sometimes you just have to gamble and Charlotte winning those bets means she hits hard by critting everything. It's not just Heroes or Fire Emblem if being on Smashboards (or existing and being conscious of stuff in general) is any indication of how people can be with characters and stuff.

On Serene's Forest, there is one user who, for whatever reason, keeps summoning -Atk units. It's scary and amazing how she summons most of her units as -Atk, but she gets by despite this. I think she had -Atk Ike, Soren?, Titania, and she just summoned a -Atk bride Cordelia today. She did get a duplicate Titania who wasn't -Atk, but still, when most of the 5* summons she gets are -Atk and she can still play the game without much trouble, it does question if maybe people are going a bit overboard with all of this.

I still stand by that -Atk is the worst thing in Heroes, though. Some units can deal with it or ignore it like Azama, Cherche, and bride Cordelia while others suffer like Felicia, Niles, Olwen, Rebecca, Setsuna who already have low or borderline low attack and/or whose attack or other stats can drop by 4 instead of the usual 3.
 
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I made a Zeldoo Ditty about a year ago but it was pretty bad, your's is better.
This is prolly my best one:
I appreciate this.

I will give the benefit of the doubt that since she's new, people might not know her stats, but when it's in a thread that had datamined stats posted and people raving about how she's the best archer with 35 attack and speed where even a -Atk or -Spd Cordelia is at worst, a normal Jeorge, Klein, and Takumi, it's kind of hard to say she's not good because she's -Atk or -Spd.

Anyway, there was a thread about it on Serene's Forest questioning about the obsession with boon and banes. It's just that there are people out there who only care about winning and get really picky about stuff. And I just read post yesterday about how Charlotte and berserkers in Fates (and maybe in general) are absolutely worthless because of their low accuracy. A response to that is sometimes you just have to gamble and Charlotte winning those bets means she hits hard by critting everything. It's not just Heroes or Fire Emblem if being on Smashboards (or existing and being conscious of stuff in general) is any indication of how people can be with characters and stuff.

On Serene's Forest, there is one user who, for whatever reason, keeps summoning -Atk units. It's scary and amazing how she summons most of her units as -Atk, but she gets by despite this. I think she had -Atk Ike, Soren?, Titania, and she just summoned a -Atk bride Cordelia today. She did get a duplicate Titania who wasn't -Atk, but still, when most of the 5* summons she gets are -Atk and she can still play the game without much trouble, it does question if maybe people are going a bit overboard with all of this.

I still stand by that -Atk is the worst thing in Heroes, though. Some units can deal with it or ignore it like Azama, Cherche, and bride Cordelia while others suffer like Felicia, Niles, Olwen, Rebecca, Setsuna who already have low or borderline low attack and/or whose attack or other stats can drop by 4 instead of the usual 3.
It's because some units are awful or lose to common units with just those 3 points (sometimes 4). A lot of 5 Star units also suck for fodder.

Anyway, threw $40 extra (80 total) at the banner... ANOTHER NINIAN APPEARED TELL THIS WOMAN TO LEAVE ME ALONE.

Got +SPD/-RES Harlot. IDK how to build her. Armorslayer or Killer Lance or DA SPOON? Fury? Luna or Draconic Aura or Dragon Fang?

Then waifu Caeda. +SPD/-ATK. Thankfully I can give her a Blade tome eventually. She'll double almost everything and deal decent damage. With Deathblow she'll have 64 ATK... Pls ban this woman. Whoever thought Blade tomes were a good idea needs to be fired tbh.
 

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Morning girls. How's everyone doing? :4zelda:

Got introduced to an exam observer who will be helping me with the exam I'll be taking next week. They'll read the question out for me, so I have to do all of the answers. Fingers crossed I get about 40 or more. Since that is the threashold for me to pass.

 

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Graduated from university today! To think I got here when I first started university. Time sure flies!
Congrats!! :happysheep:

Also FE: Heroes:

I need Charlotte. Tbh, she was one of my favourites in Fates so that's also the reason. Cordelia also has really nice art, but then that means I have to pull grays, and I don't want to go through the waves of dumb healers again
 

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Got +SPD/-RES Harlot. IDK how to build her. Armorslayer or Killer Lance or DA SPOON? Fury? Luna or Draconic Aura or Dragon Fang?
Brave Lance. 36 neutral attack and 35 speed with +Spd. Trash resistance, but who cares! :p

She has currently has the best attack and speed stats for Brave Lance as an infantry. Before, it was Donnel. Slap Dragon Fang on since she'll be killing people normally with Brave Lance while Dragon Fang can be used to muscle through units with higher defense or against some greens.

Spoon's cool, though. I love how there's a spoonful of cake? on it.
 
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Brave Lance and Draconic Aura don't mix tho. You need a high attack stat (like 50 or higher) to make use of it, and since Brave Lance has a pathetic 5 damage, you aren't getting much from it.
Brave Lance + Luna ftw
 

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Brave Lance and Draconic Aura don't mix tho. You need a high attack stat (like 50 or higher) to make use of it, and since Brave Lance has a pathetic 5 damage, you aren't getting much from it.
Brave Lance + Luna ftw
Fine, Brave Lance+. Geez...

Brave Lance+, L&D3 or Death Blow, and her 36 neutral attack puts her at 49 to 50 attack. Just have someone with Hone Attack 3 near her and there you go.

Also, Dragon Fang was what I recommended since she can probably murder most units with her normal attacks, especially with an attack buff. DF would just let her deal with high defense units or greens if needed. 24 minimum fixed damage is pretty good considering her defense and resistance aren't high enough for those specials. Draconic Aura and Luna might activate on normal kills which would waste them.

With 49 total attack from L&D3, her first hit against someone with 25 defense would be 48 damage with DF. DA would do 38 damage and Luna would make it so she does 37.

At 35 defense, 38 damage with DF, 28 with DA, and 32 damage with Luna. Luna would do better against higher defense units, but it might be better to have a mage or someone else deal with them.

DF just gives you a stronger damage boost when you need it and it can make timing a bit easier since you don't have to worry about wasting a special on a squishy. Two kills and DF is ready for a tankier unit while one kill means Luna or any 3 charge special is active for the second attack. Alternatively, Aether which would activate on the third attack too.
 
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The thing is, I have tons of Brave Lance+ fodder thanks to my dumb luck. But Brave weapons are... Eh. I would need to waste 20k feathers (or sacrifice the 5 Star Catria I got) to get her a non-Brave Lance. Heavy Spear can come from Est. Silver Lance from the reject Clair I got. Speaking of Clair, that woman needs to leave me alone already. Not only is she bad fodder, she's just bad. Getting her feels like getting a 5 Star healer. It's just BAAAAAAAAAD. And not Zelda-Bad, just BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.

For Dire Thunder or Brave Bow I feel it makes sense, because they should always be used on player phase and never to bait. With infantry, it kinda goes with the territory to bait/expect to tank a hit. So a Brave Lance on Harlot just seems wrong. With her high attack she can crush foes, basically an Infantry version of Frederick... With a lance. Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, that high attack and decent speed could also be put to great use with a Killer Lance or Armor Slayer. Heck, even a Silver Lance. Since:
1) doubling her will be harder
2) dealing enough damage in 1 hit will be impossible (without TA3 or super high ATK).
3) they will be hit HARD when she retaliates
 
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Speaking of Clair, that woman needs to leave me alone already. Not only is she bad fodder, she's just bad. Getting her feels like getting a 5 Star healer. It's just BAAAAAAAAAD. And not Zelda-Bad, just BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.
Can... Can I have her? -Atk Clair is a very, very sad creature. 4* Clair is pretty sad too when she can't even get Spur Speed 3 which is mysteriously locked behind a 5* requirement. Makes no sense since it's not that amazing of a skill compared to Life & Death 3 or Quick Riposte 3. Ditto with Xander not being able to access either Armored Blow 3 or Spur Defense 3 as a 4*. REALLY? What is he going to do? Anyway, I digress.

For Dire Thunder or Brave Bow I feel it makes sense, because they should always be used on player phase and never to bait. With infantry, it kinda goes with the territory to bait/expect to tank a hit. So a Brave Lance on Harlot just seems wrong. With her high attack she can crush foes, basically an Infantry version of Frederick... With a lance. Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, that high attack and decent speed could also be put to great use with a Killer Lance or Armor Slayer. Heck, even a Silver Lance. Since:
1) doubling her will be harder
2) dealing enough damage in 1 hit will be impossible (without TA3 or super high ATK).
3) they will be hit HARD when she retaliates
More like an infantry Cordelia, but anyway...

Donnel and Sharena can kind of do the same thing, but safer because of their higher defense and resistance which isn't much compared to Charlotte. In Donnel's case, he's already a Brave Lance user and does well while Sharena's better off using her Fensalir.

The issue with anti-armor weapons is that aside from how limited armors are, so you can't always expect to fight them, is that for blues, you have to have 37 speed at least to double Draug if he's neutral speed and not equipped with his Brave Sword and I doubt he would be at high level play since people who really, really want to use Draug would totally optimize him. Charlotte needs to be +Spd and have a speed buff from someone. If she's not faster, then she needs at least +2 attack to one shot =HP Draug. With Zephiel, you can't even double him if he has Wary Fighter equipped. She needs a +4 attack buff to one shot Zephiel. This assumes none of them have defense buffs and it's not a full armor team all running Ward Armor. And that's only for 2 sword knights out of a ton of units.

From what I know, Killer weapons tend to be run on units who work defensive builds which of the lance infantry, would be Donnel, Lukas, and Oboro because of their high defense. Ephraim too if you want to drop his Siegmund for some reason and Effie and Gwendolyn can run it usually to counter kill stuff, especially ranged units, like the other knights because of movement issues. No high resistance lance infantry, but when they're available, then there you go, a red mage counter if you can get Distant Counter on them. Charlotte could do the build, but Draconic Aura or Luna wouldn't be as strong as Bonfire or Iceberg let alone the issue of Charlotte taking a lot of damage that it might not be safe for her.

That just leaves Sapphire and Silver Lance. Sapphire Lance would make it so she murders reds, but greens will never have to fear her high attack which might not be a problem if you really, really need a red counter and Azura, Subaki, or Sully aren't working well enough.

Silver Lance... Umm, her First Bite+ only has 1 less MT than Silver Lance+, but has passive that can buff units. I'd rather keep her First Bite+ then in that case. Even Carrot Lance might be a bit better since she can always heal off it at the cost of 2 less MT compared to Silver Lance.

Brave Lance just works since she is that strong and she has the best possible attack and speed of the lance infantry who can use it now. Yes, she doesn't have 3 movement or is a flyer, but she hits hard and with +Spd, she's an infantry Cordelia. Neutral Charlotte would be an infantry Hinoka.

I don't know, you do you, but if you don't want to use a Brave Lance to keep her speed, you could just keep her default weapon. I did not know First Bite+ was that strong. 1 less MT for a passive is probably a good trade.
 
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