Emblem Lord

Hey! I was wondering if u think Cloud has the potential to be solo main viable?

When will you come back to Ryu? or will you just stay cloud forever until bayonetta comes out.

Still rocking the Ryu or dropped him to secondary status?

Hey, I saw your guide to Marth/Lucina. If you don't mind, could we do some matches sometime? I've got a big tournament I'm training for and I'm not sure I'll be able to cut it at my current level. N_W_Alucard is my nnid.

MASHING

Real talk, you should just put that LightLV or whatever guy on ignore haha. Usually not worth (though you do get my vote for Post of the Day atm)

Mashing

Want to Smash online?

Hey EL, I noticed you beat Seagull in bracket at KTAR XV. There's a serious lack of tournament replays of Ryu vs. Sonic especially with Ryu winning. You know if your set was recorded and uploaded anywhere? I haven't been able to find it myself. That's a mu I really need to study more.

I gotta play you again bro, Ima beat you this time. I've been practicing >

Hey EL,

As a new-ish Ryu main, I've been struggling a lot with Pika Pika and Sonic and was wondering what secondary I should pick up to cover his bad matchups or if I should just solo main him.

Thanks!

Hello Emblem Lord. Do you use no tap jump when playing Ryu? If so, have you always played that way, or did you switch when Ryu came?

How do I get better with Ryu?

Hey, I'm down for some online practice tonight if you are. I'm looking for some Rosalina/Custom Kirby vs Ryu practice.

Hey Emblem Ryu main here, wondering if you were up for some Ryu dittos and/or other matchups at some point. I'm in Seattle Washington entered a few locals based off what I've learned on my own since release as well as what you, 9B, and, Trela have shown so far, either way thanks in advance for the great work with Ryu and your comments on the character board.

do you pp

whats good I'm from jersey too
wassup with a 1 on 1 online?

Would it be possible to write a guide on how and why Marth has a good neutral game? As I mentioned in that Character Competitive Impressions thread, I keep seeing people feed into the idea that Marth is bad at neutral. If you have no time for that, no big deal, but I thought you'd probably be the right person to ask.

Could you please tell me how Marth beats Ryu? I don't have Ryu and I've only faced him twice so learning everything about how to beat Ryu would be great. I won neither of these matches, if you're wondering.

Satsui No Hadou ni Mezameta EmblemLord

Hey there, Emblem Lord, want to go against one another in some Smash for Wii U matches? If so, we ought to discuss rulesets and whatnot.

Not sure if you saw the reply so just messaging you here. I can play your custom Marth now if you want.

You have a Sheik to practice. I have a Marth to practice. (Also with me kind of having Sheik as my secondary seeing someone use Sheik well first hand will definitely be good for me)

Fite me m8.

I feel Marth has the capability of becoming top 15. Though I still feel restricted by (the 3-ds) the lack of knowledge I contain for all his movement options.

Meanwhile, I feel a bit more familiar with Ganon.

I feel ashamed to call myself a decent Marth while I can't perfect pivot out of dance trot, can you help me out on how to do it please? D: I didn't even know you could do it.

Hey bud, would you mind if i add you in the wiiu and 3ds for some smas matches? more like lessons from you i guess... im devoting a lot of time to learn Lucina and i think it would be great if we could play sometime... thanks!

How do you het trophy points

Let me know if you need any help making that footsy article, I happen to have feet so I'm a bit of an expert on the subject.

I'm just kidding, but I would love to see the thread :D it'll probably help some of the confused newer members.

Yo, I see you on sm4sh. You up for a game?

It's definitely much nicer to have you around, I'm way too blunt and prone to frustration in communication.

New player here. How do I approach projectile heavy characters as Marth?

It's probably silly, but I think your NNID is awesome. As in like the REAL, TRUE, ONE AND ONLY Emblem Lord.

you wanna make a sm4sh marth guide? i want to help people but i'm not confident with making an entire guide or anything like that. i would like to give ideas or just help if i could.

Dude guide me haha~ how the hell are we supposed to navigate through duck hunt's insane projectile game?! Also I'm starting to think marth vs sheik might be a real nightmare this time around. What's your take on it?

Hey bro, I remember you posting something a while back on these boards. I don't remember what thread it was, but I think it was on the Neutral game? Do you have any advice on how to improve at the Neutral game/punishment? I feel it is very important in Smash 4, and I want to be a really talented player. I would love your help bro, so please get back to me!

What are your thoughts on Lucina so far?

It's good to have you back, Marcel. It's nice having another person that understands theorycraft well back in the Marth boards again.

Have you heard about the full hop dair yet though?

It's definitely mu dependent, but it's fortunately pretty usable against all the top tiers (mk's dash/attack/grab and shuttle loop don't have immediate answers but if you whiff he nados). Like all things though, it's not something thats super spammable, and does require you getting hits off on shield/them.

Okay, two major factors that come from not only full hopping but the fact that forward air is hitting in it's later frames from full hopping than short hopping (usually).

1. Safety
Used properly full hop retreating forward air is a lot safer on block. In terms of "distance" from your opponent after shield stun, there's a noticeable difference. This difference shows in that a lot of character's with powerful dash attacks will punish sh retreating fair on power shield very easily (Snake, Falco, Diddy, Zero Suit, etc etc) but have no/little out of shield options from the height Marth reaches. Otherwise, from a short hop, Marth is significantly more telegraphed in terms of where he will land, and also what he will do after landing. During a full hop ascension Marth reaches his maximum aerial mobility as well, giving him a stronger retreat. While Marth is floaty he's better than 2/3rds of the cast in terms of fast fall speed, and fast falling does have a slight impact on aerial mobility as well. The extra few frames gained from hitting someone on the later frames (like 7 instead of 4) has a slight impact in safety, also throws off people's power shielding timing. When fair's lag is over you're at around the apex of your jump at maximum aerial mobility and you can fast fall and be on the ground in not -that- much longer than if you did a rising sh fair into a ff, but you get a lot more "time" to space your landings with neutral air or fair. Characters like Olimar for example can power shield any aerial at sh range and usmash, dash attack or dash usmash, but he can not do the same from a full hop power shield. In general, Marth's best moves are aerials and one of the weaknesses abused over these years at many levels of play is ****ing him up for jumping.

2. Follow up
Full hop fair that hits someone chains into more forward airs at slightly higher percent, hence getting you more guaranteed/near guaranteed hits due to people tendency to DI upwards. Normally if we hit someone with a sh rising fair we would need to jump again for our next forward air to be horizontally aligned, an on hit full hop fair puts you at a much better height for a second fair, leaves you your second jump (for another follow up after the second hit).

Try watching Mike against RichBrown or Olimar's in general. Full Hopping in that MU is pretty much key to not getting ****ed up the ***.

Yo, tell me if you actually read these~


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I stop seeing them full hop fair on grounded opponents.
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In relation to that, while you're probably looking at bad usage of it, realistically it's super super strong for quite a lot of reasons, I can talk to you about it on something (skype?) sometime if you'd like.