I know but I included that in all my consideration. Sure its much easier for Marth to get a grab than IC's and Falco, because people will be actively trying to avoid at all costs the latter for some characters, but he still gets a lot less from it. He gets more opportunities, but they aren't as numerous as DDD, and although I would definitely say its better than Ness's grab game, I would prefer Diddy Kong to Marth grab wise because of the bananas. And Yoshi's DR can be useful and his annoying CG can be fairly useful on some characters.