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2.B.A. MASTER: The New PT Video Thread

Ingoro

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VS Bowser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRe9-53sMrQ
Ganon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2hvSTFUtHw
Marth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDJDi5W0mtM
Sorry for only having wifis. Squirtle's my worst pokemon so something's very wrong. Feel free to rip these apart; I need all the advice I can get. Thanks in advance.

My advice to you is, to read all the guides in these forums, learn the At's ( squirtle )
Try to improve in the game in general, instead of pt. Use some common sense, sorry I know this sounds harsh but if you are at your last stock at high percentage and your opponent is aleready off the platform.. why are you switching?
 

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^I thought I was safe :( .
Ok, I'll read the guides again. Squirtle and speedy characters are new to me.

Edit:
Why I chose to learn PT was I don't understand him at all.
 

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Best advice I can give is play as him as often as possible for long periods of time. Once you get a fell for how the characters work you can understand the guides and uses of moves better.
 

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I'll be overhauling this between now and the 25th.

Consider it my Christmas present to the PT boards. :)
 

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Posting this here at the request of one of the mods.

Well I haven't posted anything video related in a long while, but I got to uploading some replays recently. I will upload some more also around the holidays. Some may not remember me, but I have been here a little while but left out doing some training as such.

Well hope you enjoy the videos and critiques are welcomed. I got some "losses" matches to upload also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jStmMK1dkuw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxpq3EQsbyk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRSPPFgYAk4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ6tKRu0s7s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EaUzcJe7uY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1hQIThyAlA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy4DBkWagHE

and my favorite, as I got to pull the "Pants' move with Ivy in the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0gKbJ9Q60o

do forgive the quality of the last two videos, as they were recorded with a 3.1 megapixel camera and the ones above the last two were done with a 10mp camera.

I got more to upload so I will see about it in the coming days.

Merry Christmas Pokemon Trainers! :)


EDIT: Here are some that a person I played recorded with a capture card of some sort. They are really good quality videos. I have some losses here too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcnXD8XhsQg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9_xr_eqino (this is the same as one of the matches I posted above, but it has superior clarity)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6P1RK_Bg4Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEJ75xTmr5Q
 

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This won't be ready by tomorrow. Been with the family more than I thought.
 

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Well, I'm a pt too, been maining since release. Here's some vids, enjoy!
I main Pika, but pt comes next. I'm trying to expand my character board

^。^

vs. Korrudo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jGgyc2vvvg

vs. DAMU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmqMNSFtDiU

Vs. Jason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W10dyFVIDk

Vs. DaVe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs_3t3MXp3E
(This one's a set so skip to about 5:00)

Vs. BralwerGio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n5NWLQMUa0

Vs. Scizor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCUej9Uibfo

Vs. Fusion_Blastoise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5uZnBvJOpY

Vs. Enemy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tOWrPFT7oo
(Skip to 4:50)
 

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Cool... you're the first Japanese PT I've heard of =o

I'll definitely check out those vids when I have more time.

Are there other PTs in Japan?
 

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There are, but pt is picked on, like link, by high tiers in Japan. I thought I would get some pokemon trainers here too, so Ill be on the Pika/ pt boards
 

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Wow those vids are really interesting, we could all learn something. And the textures are awesome! Isn't squirtle in like E or F tier in Japan? He's probably A tier here.
 

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tiers look different in every region, japan tends to favor characters with good projectles. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Pit is a high, high tier there. Europeans don't have an own NA list, but in all honestly. Marth would probably be top tier here and Zelda would mostly be higher to.
 

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Yeah pit and rob are high and I think Falco is above Diddy. Marth being high really shows you how a single person can change the metagame. (Mr. R)
 

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That's a big thing to say Geen, I haven't seen the battles between Shiratama and Kent. I can't say I agree with you though, I see Volt doing a lot of interesting yet dangerous or even reckless things so I'll judge after i've seen those last battles.
 

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I suppose his opponents aren't that good. I'd like to know what reflex thinks of the different playstyle. The abundant use of ac fair with ivy looks good. And new applications for Chari's Nair too.
 

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I'm not that good and that Jigglypuff was poor but i'll offer what I can.

- Don't U-smash so much as Ivy, even if it is wifi
- That match looked pretty laggy
- You can AC fair as Ivy (You probably knew this)
- As Chari just sheild Jigg's B, she will bounce up and you can f smash/grab/fair.
- Nice switch.
 

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Critique?

I'm not that good and that Jigglypuff was poor but i'll offer what I can.

- Don't U-smash so much as Ivy, even if it is wifi
- That match looked pretty laggy
- You can AC fair as Ivy (You probably knew this)
- As Chari just sheild Jigg's B, she will bounce up and you can f smash/grab/fair.
- Nice switch.
I'll work on those, thanks.

Here's a match vs Ganon I need critiqued:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBR6Al_yAAE
It's wifi, hence the SD but my Squirtle needs serious help. My Char has trouble getting back to the stage and sweet spotting Fairs (am I using those right?).

Thanks.
 

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I'll work on those, thanks.

Here's a match vs Ganon I need critiqued:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBR6Al_yAAE
It's wifi, hence the SD but my Squirtle needs serious help. My Char has trouble getting back to the stage and sweet spotting Fairs (am I using those right?).

Thanks.

Don't bother sweetspotting fairs, Learn you character, learn their movements. Are you able to short hop normally? because if you can it gives you a better feel for your character, so my advice would be to learn how they move so you can hit 90% of your moves instead of missing the majority. I know this might come across as rude and it probably is, but to become a better Pt you first need to become a better player in general and like I've mentioned I think controlling your character with movement is a big stept towards improving in general.
 

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Don't bother sweetspotting fairs, Learn you character, learn their movements. Are you able to short hop normally? because if you can it gives you a better feel for your character, so my advice would be to learn how they move so you can hit 90% of your moves instead of missing the majority. I know this might come across as rude and it probably is, but to become a better Pt you first need to become a better player in general and like I've mentioned I think controlling your character with movement is a big stept towards improving in general.
That is good advice. + it's wifi, which always looks clunkier than offline replays. My problem is I don't know how PT should play and end up using a few PT tactics I know pay off but play like I would with Link. It's weird how much I have Link spacing/timing/tactics in my head:
PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBR6Al_yAAE
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f0e-Wm4j1A

I'll practice PT's moves but it's more about me not knowing how moves work and when to use them; after learning that I'll land more hits. I picked up PT because I didn't understand him.
 

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That is good advice. + it's wifi, which always looks clunkier than offline replays. My problem is I don't know how PT should play and end up using a few PT tactics I know pay off but play like I would with Link. It's weird how much I have Link spacing/timing/tactics in my head:
PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBR6Al_yAAE
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f0e-Wm4j1A

I'll practice PT's moves but it's more about me not knowing how moves work and when to use them; after learning that I'll land more hits. I picked up PT because I didn't understand him.
Hmm, your Link looks more solid then your Pt. Pt is hard character to master though, you need to spend a lot of time in this character if you'd want it to work.



Decided to upload a video of me playing PT. It's a wifi friendly, so of course, take it with a grain of salt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAjMZiHAZ-Y
I like the jab/tilt combo's your making with squirtle although perhaps you could try more spacing with aerials. For ivy try using other ways to rack up damage then just bullet seed, it will become predictable, you could try combinations of aerials like bair and nair and for razor leaf, don't do grounded ones but short hop because it gives you more aerials control. Last but not least, for your charizard I suggest less dash attack and more grabs.

on a side note, do you guys upload for other people to?
 

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Before this weekend I literally never bullet seeded once in my life, so I'm trying to learn the different times to use it and such.

My spacing is super off online, I'm gonna try to get some offline videos up soon. And I can upload stuff if you wish. Just make sure to pester until it's done, because I can be slow/forgetful sometimes
 

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Before this weekend I literally never bullet seeded once in my life, so I'm trying to learn the different times to use it and such.

My spacing is super off online, I'm gonna try to get some offline videos up soon. And I can upload stuff if you wish. Just make sure to pester until it's done, because I can be slow/forgetful sometimes
Alright, I've got a few offline friendlies I would like to have uploaded. I'm never in a rush when asking somebody a favor. I'll first have to get Wi-fi back and then i'll contact you.
 

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I need someone to take control of this thread. I feel bad that I keep saying I'm gonna rehaul the OP and I haven't at all--things just keep popping up in life for me.

If someone else wants control of this thread, let me know. More than happy to bounce ideas off of you.
 

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I need someone to take control of this thread. I feel bad that I keep saying I'm gonna rehaul the OP and I haven't at all--things just keep popping up in life for me.

If someone else wants control of this thread, let me know. More than happy to bounce ideas off of you.

Nobody's gonna accept to take that over, it's not coz they don't want to but it's because this is a reason for you to keep visiting these boards :D
 

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Oh man you guys are tough!

OK, as long as you're willing to wait for me, I'll keep control of the OP. Reflex does enough for this community as is--I don't wanna put anything else on his plate.
 

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That is good advice. + it's wifi, which always looks clunkier than offline replays. My problem is I don't know how PT should play and end up using a few PT tactics I know pay off but play like I would with Link. It's weird how much I have Link spacing/timing/tactics in my head:
PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBR6Al_yAAE
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f0e-Wm4j1A

I'll practice PT's moves but it's more about me not knowing how moves work and when to use them; after learning that I'll land more hits. I picked up PT because I didn't understand him.
well like it was previously said, your Link is stronger than your PT character. Just a bit of advice when playing Ganon, be wary of the wizard's foot stomp move. Your opponent didn't really do a lot of those, but that is something really to look out for. Usually when I am playing a nasty Ganon who really wants to be a power player, I make Charzy do some down airs myself even on the stage in a short hop. You can connect two of those at low percents and off stage you get the chance to do a meteor. Send the pain right back. A nasty Ganon is not something to take lightly. That is a hard fight. With Ivy, I like to do backwards directional neutral airs in a short hop or mid hop and keep going as much as I can with adding regular back airs as they try to get distance with DI. When you land try to get in the habit of doing a down A attack to get you some distance from the Ganon player. Otherwise a nasty Ganon player will be likely to go on a chain grab spree with low level hits to rack up damage quickly. With Squirtle, do some chain grabs yourself and watch your recoveries over the ledge. A nasty Ganon will try to hit your waterfall or withdraw slide attack with a Wizard's foot stomp move. It is nasty. You have to watch out for the knock back as you won't have much distance to get back with a jump and you have to use waterfall or withdraw. This is where the other two can have less to worry about as tether can grab further out depending on angle and Charizard can glide back in a lot of cases. Hope that helps.

To develop your PT, I would suggest you play the AI on level 9 and pick Luigi and Zelda. That should help you develop some timing.

Just some advice. I am not a perfect PT player (as I struggle at times and have struggled a lot in the past), but we are all trying to make this "thang" work with these Pokeballs. :awesome::urg:

EDIT: One more thing, don't rocksmash too often against a nasty Ganon. You will be punished for it. Only sparingly and when you can get some surprise on it. It can be a good finisher to a stock if you keep it fresh.
 
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