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I said *almost every* Smash game.
I don't know man. She doesn't really have any of the traditional smash weaknesses anymore. Her shield grab is bad against some faster attacks but it's made up for by the fact that it isn't really reactable anymore at range + up-b out of shield is hilarious. The old weakness of holding shield against ZSS doesn't work anymore because she has multiple attacks that are + on block. Her paralyzer traps are outright disgusting now. If you shield a paralyzer you get grabbed. She has some of the best, most versatile recovery in the game; if there's a character that punishes her hard for down b and tethers she can fall back to her more traditional up-b, which must be respected. She can kill early, too, although it is true that if you play a bit campy it can be hard to let her set it up.
Yeah I totally agree, most of the characters seem like they'll be competitively viable unless some game-breaking technique comes in that stomps all over a bunch of peeps.
I didn't say he was bad and if I did I would be quite heavily in denial, but I believe he is like Snake in that he will drop in tiers as other characters evolve faster than him (At least that's what happened to Snake in my understanding) but he'll never actually be bad, just less complex.
I can honestly see WFT being a decent upper mid tier a few months down the line.
Damn you Shaya... Damn you...
There really is a shocking number of anti-camp custom moves.
I love that the whole cast seems to be formidable on their own, but what excites me even more is custom moves. Custom moves can only make characters stronger, which I believe will allow any character to be played on a competitive level. In addition, if rulesets allowed people to change their custom moves during a set, then there could also be counter pick opportunities such as picking anti-camping custom moves vs. a camping opponent (much to the dismay of Rosalinas ;_; )
I have never really understood this train of thought. How are custom moves going to improve less favorable characters? First of all, specials are only four out of the many moves a character has. Even outside of specials, top tier characters usually possess extraordinary normals, smashes and/or aerials on which they can rely. These moves cannot be changed. Second, it's great that worse characters can be strengthened by equipping the right custom moves, but stronger characters have custom moves too. They can improve just like the weaker characters can, so even though both characters may be stronger in the end, the gap will remain similar. Sure, you may have a case where a weaker character decreases his disadvantage with a custom move that works remarkably effective against a stronger character, but the reverse might just as well happen. A stronger character may also increase his advantage against a weaker character if they happen to have a very effective custom move.
New bair has okayish start-up (may be worse than I'm imagining, so please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), horrendous recovery, but the looooooooong ass duration of the active frames and the huge disjointed hitbox make it really good for spacing aerially lower to the ground and for air-to-air engagements. The biggest drawback to the move is the recovery. If you don't space it properly and you whiff it, you're probably gonna get punished. It's also a huge gamble to fastfall it, or hit somebody's shield with it. The timing is pretty strict in order to make the move safe; as in, Dedede should finish the animation before he hits the ground. Hitting somebody with the bair at lower percents can lead to a follow-up, and at higher percents fresh it can net you a KO. I think it works out to about "meh." Granted it's nowhere near as versatile as Brawl bair, but it has its uses.
Zelda as I've stated I feel actually is reasonably solid in this game. She isn't helped a lot by customs, but her default specials are mostly pretty useful. Zelda has a very strong ability to get out of bad situations with her Up-B, which aside from being a great recovery move in this game also can be used as a punish for KOs at long range making Zelda amazing during land trap situations. She also has other great tools like her grab, Jab, D-tilt, and Naryus which make her quite competitive in footsies. And she hits pretty hard, almost as hard as Ganon on several of her moves. So basically, Zelda survives pretty long, and punishes hard, and while her ground mobility is low, her normals are great in footsies.
That's the wrong way to look at spacing.
The real advantage to Marth's offense isn't tipper damage. It's the fact he can potentially KO something like 25-40% earlier than Lucina when he does tipper, which as I stated is easier to set up in situations where you are aggressively controlling the pace of the game rather than in games where you are forced on the defense. Lucina's hits do about 1-2% more than Marth's when non-tippered, which honestly isn't as huge as Marth's raw KO potential. Yes, she is probably slightly more reliable at damage racking over time, but it's not as huge as Marth say, landing a tipper F-smash or B-air edgeguard that ends you at 80% while Lucina has to work her opponents to more like 110% at least before she tries to get the KO.
I keep seeing this, yet there are no examples. Which moves are honestly + on block? I didn't think there were any attacks (other than slow projectiles) that are even close to that in this game. You're saying that if you grab them after you block their attack, you'd beat their immediate shieldgrab (ZSS vs ZSS)? Because that's what it means to be + on block: your attack beats their's even when they're the same speed.
Why do you think Marth needs to space attacks so much more precisely than Lucina? Lucina does hardly any more damage than Marth on non-tipped attacks.
Well even Palutena is only bad just because she is meant to be customized, which then is funny that they didn't allow custom moves in For Glory, basically gutting her in that mode. But with custom moves on, she gets WAY better. In fact, i'm pretty sure they made her default move set bad in order to get people to play around with her custom moves.
Hey I'll quote you on this so you better become the Axe of CharizardsPeople still sleeping on Charizard I see... It's all good just makes me look that much better when I'm racking up those W's.
