Charizard Tactical Discussion

PokemonMasterIRL · Sep 8, 2009

I love you Typh.

And that better be a wavebounced Flamethrower.

Steeler · Sep 9, 2009

lmao that was one of my favorite typh posts ever

Charizard92 · Sep 9, 2009

typh said:
]http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5940/chare.jpg

Kinda looks like a dragon, a lot more so than normal

typh said:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6408/charlv.jpg

This is kind of what I'd expect for the creepy monster in the stereotypical cage (or my closet, I never leave it open)

typh said:
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/2183/charz.jpg

Epic, just Epic. If it wasn't so big, I'd make this my avatar (Charizard of course, Blaziken pales in comparison to him [and all the other fire type starters])

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2073/1679535.jpg

...

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1179/1702376.png

Thoughts in bold, or outside quotes.

Seriously, I really like the Charizard vs Blaziken. If you can make the Charizard there Avatar size I'll accept it in a heartbeat (not selling soul though, savin' that for unlimited no strings attached wishes)

Steeler · Sep 10, 2009

why would you quote the pictures OMFG

oh it's charizard92, nevermind

<3

luke_atyeo · Sep 10, 2009

lols this is a great thread to lurk, I love how much toby has influenced you guys, and the pape spam, its great.

Kith · Sep 13, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihMiJrGplpA&feature=channel

hehehe. Just thought I'd lighten the mood.

Bestiarius · Sep 13, 2009

Epic fail.

T-block · Sep 14, 2009

i lol'd

sooooo sexy

Bestiarius · Sep 14, 2009

I pity the poor fools who think wingtips are shoes.

#HBC | ZoZo · Sep 22, 2009

I'll probably sound like a noob asking this, but I'm gonna ask it anyway.

Has anyone even considered using Charizards upB in a similar fashion as Marth's upB?
I know the options are more limited then Marth's, but I was quite happy with results when I started incorporating it into my game (seeing as PT is my fun character, I'm a scrub though x))

inb4 getting flamed in the charizard thread is normal

T-block · Sep 22, 2009

yeah up-b OoS can be effective, and it's got good killing power

it's not hard to DI to avoid the last hit and punish though, so i really only use it against bigger targets. that's me playing more cautiously though

CoonTail · Sep 22, 2009

I jus have found that honestly you can try and do an Up-B OoS once......after that its way to predictable because most players usually dash-shield to Up-B OoS. So overall you can try it but if you miss dont go throwing it around cuz then your kinda asking to be killed.

Bomber7 · Sep 23, 2009

Ice_Coon45 said:
I jus have found that honestly you can try and do an Up-B OoS once......after that its way to predictable because most players usually dash-shield to Up-B OoS. So overall you can try it but if you miss dont go throwing it around cuz then your kinda asking to be killed.

stated for truth. Also, who else here loves those moments when you use rock smash and you get hit but the move still hits even though you don't pull out your rock?

Asa · Sep 23, 2009

All rock smash moments are loved equally in my eyes

Vermy · Sep 23, 2009

Except when diddy monkey flips through it ;__;

Zigsta · Sep 23, 2009

Or Ganondorf bairs through it.

Toby. · Sep 23, 2009

Or marth dolphin slashes through it.

luke_atyeo · Sep 23, 2009

or snake uptilts through it.

Vermy · Sep 23, 2009

;__;

why can't rocksmash have invincibility frames?!??!?!!?!?

Or Wario Waft super armours through it.

Zigsta · Sep 23, 2009

Vermy said:
;__;

why can't rocksmash have invincibility frames?!??!?!!?!?

Because Sakurai hates all Pokemon. Except Pikachu.

Except in Melee.

Or the bombs on Pirate Ship go through it.

lolz

Toby. · Sep 23, 2009

~~Guys we had a great combo going there. I suggest editing your posts to continue the chain.~~

Or Dedede shield grabs it.

Zigsta · Sep 23, 2009

Toby. said:
Guys we had a great combo going there. I suggest editing your posts to continue the chain.

~~Vermy started it!~~

Or Meta Knight's (high priority) Mach Tornado goes through it.

Vermy · Sep 23, 2009

Or you hit DK and his super armour straight through it, killing you with an Africa Punch ;__;

Toby. · Sep 23, 2009

Or DK bairs through it.

Asa · Sep 23, 2009

Zigsta said:
~~Vermy started it!~~

Or Meta Knight's (high priority) Mach Tornado goes through it.

I thought rock smash beat out whorenado?

CoonTail · Sep 23, 2009

Or peach F-airs through it and cancels out every god **** rock shotgun blast we got(No time to reload!!!)

Just for you vermy.....sorrryy!!

Vermy · Sep 23, 2009

DAMM IT GUYS! WE HAD A GOOD THING GOING! WHAT THE HELL?!

You know what. I might cut you tonight.

Steeler · Sep 23, 2009

or falco lasers it

rock smash beats tornado usually but it is possible for the mk to mash b enough that it beats the rock

what a ****

PokemonMasterIRL · Sep 23, 2009

There is a certain part of Rocksmash that always beats Tornado.

Magik0722 · Sep 23, 2009

Actually rock smash loses to MT more often then beating it, you have to hit him at the side of the tornado which can be difficult

Zigsta · Sep 23, 2009

Yeahhhh...my roomie picked up MK.

Boooooooo

Steeler · Sep 23, 2009

yeah you pull the rock out when you are right next to the tornado so it appears where MK is. usually i take 1% and MK takes like 15-20%. however i'm pretty sure MK can raise the priority to a point where he won't take damage from rock smash and the two will clash and both characters return to a neutral stance.

Magik0722 · Sep 23, 2009

i dont think the two will ever clash and return to nuetral.

Just raise the MT a little bit since it has more priority at the bottom of the tornado and place it were a SH rocksmash wouldnt be directly to the side of the tornado

Charizard gets pretty wrecked by MT

Steeler · Sep 23, 2009

i can swear that they clashed once while i was playing domo in a friendly, he said he was mashing b more than usual. i'll test it out further next time i play a MK

what you say about the positioning is true though, if they place it where rock smash won't easily hit the side of the tornado then the rock isn't as viable in that situation, it only works if you hit the side where MK is

if not for MT, i think zard would be really close to about neutral with MK

Magik0722 · Sep 23, 2009

Practice pivot grabs

just how much range does charizards grab have vertically anyway?

Steeler · Sep 23, 2009

idk but charizard is a tall character so it can't be too bad

CoonTail · Sep 23, 2009

His head ducks low tho and he grabs with his mouth so honestly I dont think its really that high

Bomber7 · Sep 23, 2009

Ice_Coon45 said:
Or peach F-airs through it and cancels out every god **** rock shotgun blast we got(No time to reload!!!)

Just for you vermy.....sorrryy!!

thats when you bring out the dual barrel rock smash aka rock blast.

Magik0722 · Sep 23, 2009

oh yeah guys start using fsmash with zard its really good

CoonTail · Sep 23, 2009

Magik0722 said:
oh yeah guys start using fsmash with zard its really good

Magik = right
best combo ever is Rocksmash-Usmash (obv the 61%er) to studder step f-smash on MK
3 hit kills on MK cmon how do you argue

In short tho magik are we talking straight f-smash or studder step?

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