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Q&A Falco Q&A
- Thread starter Mogwai
- Start date
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Lmao .
puckgood
Smash Journeyman
I'll make a short video about basic aerial -> shine training after pound... I'm tired of this question popping up all the time :'(
Little England
Smash Master
Against Peach hold up. Against Sheik hold down.
With Peach all you need is poke/laser her to 15% then combo your *** off.
With Sheik you have to get your laser game really tight. When you get your significant attack in (ie. shine) she should be off the stage for an easy edgeguard. edit: Also ftilt ***** Sheik hard.
dair -> followup
if you're ever confused with what to do mid combo with Falco, you should probably just dair
if you're ever confused with what to do mid combo with Falco, you should probably just dair
Fortress | Sveet
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So does anyone realize how easy it is to kill puff with a shine off the top of the stage? on yoshi's i've comboed dair->shine and killed ~100% and it probably works much earlier than that.
also, i've killed as low as 53% from just above the top platform (nowhere near the magnifying glass)
also, i've killed as low as 53% from just above the top platform (nowhere near the magnifying glass)
yes, everyone realizes it. the problem is that Jiggs moves a lot from her DI, so as long as she's DIing combos correctly, it's difficult to combo into a death shine.
SheerMadness
Smash Master
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Yah Yoshi's story is the only stage you're ever going to kill jiggs with shine.
Maybe once in a blue moon on Pokemon Stadium.
Maybe once in a blue moon on Pokemon Stadium.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
No mogwai, SVeet has already said that falco can kill ppl off the top of dreamland at like 10 % and its viable.
WAy easier than resting
Sveet says its good dude. Its gotta be true
Fortress | Sveet
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Easiest way to kill luigi:
Mindgame your opponent and get a 3rd controller in as another luigi. Then declare a luigi-ladder-off by shouting "LAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEER TIME!!!!!!!!". As the luigis start going up, use your feet to control the controller controlling falco and aim a shine for the evil luigi. I'm fairly sure that this will kill sub-10%
Mindgame your opponent and get a 3rd controller in as another luigi. Then declare a luigi-ladder-off by shouting "LAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEER TIME!!!!!!!!". As the luigis start going up, use your feet to control the controller controlling falco and aim a shine for the evil luigi. I'm fairly sure that this will kill sub-10%
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Why cant you just have luigi jump? He can down b/up B if necessary
but falco wont be able to reach if they are too high
but falco wont be able to reach if they are too high
Why aren't you the best player in the world yet?
X1-12
Smash Champion
I thought he was.......
But more to the point is there anything you can do in falco dittos when they're spamming lasers (particularly on FD) is there another way other than just spamming them back? or trying to powershield?
JPOBS
Smash Hero
try sheild the laser then Double jump double laser.
it should work out so that their next laser goes under you as you're in the air and then the second laser you shoot should hit them thus giving you the advantage.
it should work out so that their next laser goes under you as you're in the air and then the second laser you shoot should hit them thus giving you the advantage.
X1-12
Smash Champion
wesley as in PC Chris and Wes Vs Ken & Isai?
also when you grab fox what do you do? Up-throw seems natural for a FF'er but i allways get naired or daired out of it - should I u-throw -> nair or uthrow->shine? or what?
If you didn't know i mean when there's not a platform above me
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
Dr. PP knows how to completely negate peach as a camping character.
Zolios
Smash Apprentice
Hey, is shinegrab useful and give some good situations and characters that could necesitate it's use. Also, what's an effective way to shorten the phantasm...button mash?
X1-12
Smash Champion
not really THAT useful, but if you don't like shield pressure and they shield your aerial its easy grab basically
and phantasm is just practise..or mashing, but if i mash it always does the shortest one when sometimes i want like the middle one or whatever
JPOBS
Smash Hero
falco's grabs vs fox are at the best a cheap mindgame.
generally, always throw in the direction which will put them offstage
theres a few things you can do and follow up based on their DI.
Upthrow sometimes leads to nair or fair.
Downthrow can lead to regrabs if they DI out and sheild
backthrow can lead to turnaround ftilts and sh dairs and junk if they DI in or you could run and regrab then which is lols
keep in mind, none of these things actually combo and is entirely DI dependent or dependent on the reaction speed of your opponent. but the goal is the trick them and then lol at them for being dumb.
the best way to short the phantasm i've found is hit B immediately after the high pitched ZING sound that happens right before falco starts to move.
Zolios
Smash Apprentice
X1-12's response was a complete fail and a waste of my time. However, JPOBS helped me efficiently and effectively. I can do short phantasms consistently now. Thanks JPOBS!
Moooose
Smash Champion
no that's the famous samus.
stabbedbyanipple
Smash Master
What happened mogwai?????
sex drugs and rock and roll
stabbedbyanipple
Smash Master
That never stopped anyone from discussing Falco before!
until now...
I dunno, I honestly have barely been playing for the last month. I might try to write some stuff over the next couple weeks as I'll be traveling a lot and will need something to do on my train rides, but I'm not promising anything as I've been unmotivated to write lessons and matchup guides recently.
I dunno, I honestly have barely been playing for the last month. I might try to write some stuff over the next couple weeks as I'll be traveling a lot and will need something to do on my train rides, but I'm not promising anything as I've been unmotivated to write lessons and matchup guides recently.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
should you ever get around to writting it, what would the next section be about?
Bwoodboy18
Smash Cadet
Woot! All the Falco Mains in one place =P
Dynamism?
Smash Champion
No sense in writing things when you have nothing to write.
Go destroy Jiggs and write about 'how'
Falco grabbing Fox, just because it doesn't 'true combo' doesn't mean it can't be really freakin good.
Grab him just like you'd grab anyone. It's good.
Go destroy Jiggs and write about 'how'
Falco grabbing Fox, just because it doesn't 'true combo' doesn't mean it can't be really freakin good.
Grab him just like you'd grab anyone. It's good.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
everytime i land a combo out of a grab vs fox i laugh out loud mid match.
upthrow->shine
dthrow-> shine/dsmash
fthrow-> fthrow
all these things give me lulz
upthrow->shine
dthrow-> shine/dsmash
fthrow-> fthrow
all these things give me lulz
uthrow combos into aerial and aerial shines a lot. fthrow leads into a tech chase. My favorite is still uthrow -> shine -> platform waveland usmash. uhg, if it weren't for platform wavelanding out of aerial shines, I think I would've stopped playing Falco about half a year ago.
wuuuuttttt Zhu's the only dude that pulls that sheeit off!
Every time.
I'm gonna try that tho.
Bwoodboy18
Smash Cadet
Wow, Shine? I've never heard that terminology before and I've been maining Falco for ever....I'm assuming its his reflector?
I take it you're very new to smashboards 
?
?
JPOBS
Smash Hero
yea its his reflector^
and i love pulling upthrow -> shine -> etc combo ALL DAY.
but yea, shine platform wavelanding has totally changed falco's meta over the past year or so.
and i love pulling upthrow -> shine -> etc combo ALL DAY.
but yea, shine platform wavelanding has totally changed falco's meta over the past year or so.