Official General Post-DLC Discussion [Closed]

[Black1]

Id rather they get a stage or trophy. I mean mii gunner and splatoon costume, pretend the moves are paint and boom you have a inkling

 

[Sceptile4Smash]

Id rather they get a stage or trophy. I mean mii gunner and splatoon costume, pretend the moves are paint and boom you have a inkling

Umm what?
So people who want Inklings have to "pretend" that the lasers are ink?

That's like saying get a cardboard box and pretend it's a house, you won't have to worry about living in the streets anymore.

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

So, a question for both Inklings defenders and Inklings detractors: would you be okay if Inklings didn't make it but they got some DLC presence, like more trophies, a stage and some songs (or even an Assist Trophy)?

I'd be good with that, actually, I think I'd like it more since splatoon gets more content but they can still let the franchise do it's own thing for a little while before actually adding a character

 

[IndigoSSB]

So, a question for both Inklings defenders and Inklings detractors: would you be okay if Inklings didn't make it but they got some DLC presence, like more trophies, a stage and some songs (or even an Assist Trophy)?

It goes without saying that a DLC character would be best, but I would be pretty happy if we got a traveling stage around Inkopolis (which would naturally come with music). I'm not too optimistic of that happening though, all of the stages we've gotten as DLC so far have either been ported from a past game or has been very easy to implement (Mario Maker).

 

[Bowserlick]

Inklings, Dixie, and Wolf. Get ready.

The next batch will be K. Rool, Isaac, Rayman, and Bomberman.

 

[Black1]

Umm what?
So people who want Inklings have to "pretend" that the lasers are ink?

That's like saying get a cardboard box and pretend it's a house, you won't have to worry about living in the streets anymore.

That's your argument? Not that the inklings could have an expansive moveset just that you want their ink to be ink? Also that is a kinda horrible comparison considering one is life and one is a video game. People really do have to pretend the cardboard box is a home

 

[A Distant Demon]

talk of fanboy tears. Fun times here

So, a question for both Inklings defenders and Inklings detractors: would you be okay if Inklings didn't make it but they got some DLC presence, like more trophies, a stage and some songs (or even an Assist Trophy)?

AT-no. I dont use them
Stage- as long as it's legal and has good music
trophies- don't really care.

 

[-crump-]

So, a question for both Inklings defenders and Inklings detractors: would you be okay if Inklings didn't make it but they got some DLC presence, like more trophies, a stage and some songs (or even an Assist Trophy)?

I mean, Inkling is one of my most-wanted characters, so I would be disappointed. A stage would be cool, I guess.

 

[Sceptile4Smash]

That's your argument? Not that the inklings could have an expansive moveset just that you want their ink to be ink? Also that is a kinda horrible comparison considering one is life and one is a video game. People really do have to pretend the cardboard box is a home

I'm aware of people actually living in cardboard boxes.
However, your argument about the Inklings is pretty bad, especially by saying "pretend the moves are paint and boom you have a inkling".

Really, the only thing stopping the Inklings is technical limitations of the 3DS. I don't think it would be possible swimming through colored ink on Battlefield.

Also, they may be Mii costumes now so I know it doesn't do the character justice, look at K.rool, he is not flexible like how his costume is. I'm not saying to change their specific attacks to be Ink instead of lasers but it's foolish to say "pretend that they're ink" we have a ballot with no limits of who to vote for.
It's only natural that people want them in.

 

[Black1]

I'm aware of people actually living in cardboard boxes.
However, your argument about the Inklings is pretty bad, especially by saying "pretend the moves are paint and boom you have a inkling".

Really, the only thing stopping the Inklings is technical limitations of the 3DS. I don't think it would be possible swimming through colored ink on Battlefield.

Also, they may be Mii costumes now so I know it doesn't do the character justice, look at K.rool, he is not flexible like how his costume is. I'm not saying to change their specific attacks to be Ink instead of lasers but it's foolish to say "pretend that they're ink" we have a ballot with no limits of who to vote for.
It's only natural that people want them in.

My statement was clearly a joke though not my argument for them not being in. My argument is that there are still veteran Nintendo characters with no rep. Inklings are brand new and have a successful game that is still being updated. Where as some of these veteran games are done.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

My statement was clearly a joke though not my argument for them not being in. My argument is that there are still veteran Nintendo characters with no rep. Inklings are brand new and have a successful game that is still being updated. Where as some of these veteran games are done.

I feel like that's an argument against yourself. "Let's promote these oldies with no apparent future instead of our new, popular characters who we really want to capitalize on!!"

 

[Black1]

The oldies are Fan favorites. People love ness but yet the creator of earthbound said he will never make another Mother game so hes immortalized in smash. There are old games the fans want but creators may not want to or cant get another game yet so they should be in smash. Nice try though I guess

 

[Alice Margatroid]

Whether or not you like the Inklings there is no denying that at this point they do have a strong chance of making it in (or at least a somewhat decent one). For the sake of the thread I suggest we just move on. It's getting pretty tiring.

 

[IndigoSSB]

Whether or not you like the Inklings there is no denying that at this point they do have a strong chance of making it in (or at least a somewhat decent one). For the sake of the thread I suggest we just move on. It's getting pretty tiring.

A sensible first post. Welcome to SmashBoards

The oldies are Fan favorites. People love ness but yet the creator of earthbound said he will never make another Mother game so hes immortalized in smash. There are old games the fans want but creators may not want to or cant get another game yet so they should be in smash. Nice try though I guess

Can you clarify? That literally made no sense to me, are you saying characters should be added to try and revive an old series?

 

[Alice Margatroid]

A sensible first post. Welcome to SmashBoards

Thanks, but I've been lurking for awhile; finally made an account because I was tired of reading about Inklings.

 

[Black1]

Whether or not you like the Inklings there is no denying that at this point they do have a strong chance of making it in (or at least a somewhat decent one). For the sake of the thread I suggest we just move on. It's getting pretty tiring.

Who was denying it?
And no I'm saying old favorites should just be in not to revive their series. Ness is in his series isn't being revived that wasn't my argument at all

 

[PushDustIn]

Source Gaming recently did a roundtable with reactions to the Smash/Nintendo rumors. Includes opinions from @Neo Zero and Tamaki. I know you guys talk about Inklings/ Shovel Knight a lot so I figured I should give you guys a heads up.

 

[pupNapoleon]

I'm going to step away from the Ice Climber comparison as the ICs were in Melee for a vastly different reason than Marth or Roy. Marth and Roy are closer in concept to Ness (who, by the premise of being in Smash 64, was considered an "iconic character").

pupNapoleon Which FE reps would you remove from the Smash Roster if you could? I see where you're coming from with the "too many Fire Emblem reps", but I'm not sure which characters you genuinely find reasonable additions. Should only Marth be put in the game?

Edit: I may be several hours late with this post. Gonna post Inkling thoughts later.

Marty and Ike are both recurring characters.
Robin represents the essence of the game. He also is the any man avatar.

The only three intended characters, they truly are the only important ones, too.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

The oldies are Fan favorites. People love ness but yet the creator of earthbound said he will never make another Mother game so hes immortalized in smash. There are old games the fans want but creators may not want to or cant get another game yet so they should be in smash. Nice try though I guess

Ness was in Smash before his franchise was dead. He's been a veteran since the very first installment of Smash. You're saying characters should be newly added that are already dead. Unless the character is an absolute legend that young and old players know, that would be a pretty lame business decision.

 

[Giga Kaiju]

I feel that a good mix of OLD AND NEW is what always should be done in terms of integrating characters in the franchise. Is not on how much or many, but in a good balance, it works AND helps out in a long way.

 

[Wiimas123]

Along with somebody else on the roster.

I'll give you a hint. Her name starts with "Zel" and ends with "da".

Oh yeah, how could I forget her. Sorry.

 

[Cool Guy 36]

My my, even in a new location this thread is more or less the same as it always was.
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It's probably going to be Wolf or a newcomer. I don't want to count Snake out, but I'm iffy on how much of a popular choice on the ballot he could have been. I love Snake, but there are many people who still think he's "not Nintendo enough" when he's already been in a Smash Brothers game lol.

also can we not include like 20 large pictures in a spoiler tab for no reason in the future pls
it's super unnecessary and technically just added spam to a nice post
thank​

Well I'am very neutral on Snake. While I don't really expect him to be back, I still think he had a chance. Well who knows? Maybe he will become the next . Well, you know, everybody think that he is never coming back because he doesn't have any new games coming up. However despite all of that, he still return. I still yet to try him, so just because characters like and who had a game only on PC and PS4 coming next year doesn't mean you need a new game to get in Smash. It doesn't really matter anyway. That argument is pretty much pointless anyway.

This picture was shown a few months ago before was revealed to come back. This probably is a reference to and . I'am not saying this is pretty much confirmed Snake. I repeat it is probably a reference.

Well, my apologies, I didn't really mean to do anything bad, I just feel like posting some pictures of some cute Pokemon cars
would cheer anybody up while waiting for a Direct to come. I love Smash. I love you all. Just please clam yourselves down. Thank you!

 

[Wiimas123]

Well I'am very neutral on Snake. While I don't really expect him to be back, I still think he had a chance. Well who knows? Maybe he will become the next . Well, you know, everybody think that he is never coming back.

Personally I don't think Snake will come back because I think they're done with the veterans since they already had 3 DLC characters () that were all veterans. But then again i'm just going off of what we have which is very little.

 

[PushDustIn]

I don't think Lucas' rope snake with Prince Sable is a hint or a reference to Snake the character. I think it's a visual gag, as all the trailers include a lot of them. There are references to the game itself, but sometimes the scene is just suppose to make you smile.

 

[Giga Kaiju]

I don't think Lucas' rope snake with Prince Sable is a hint or a reference to Snake the character. I think it's a visual gag, as all the trailers include a lot of them. There are references to the game itself, but sometimes the scene is just suppose to make you smile.

Kind of like-

Not all scenes amount to something or foreshadowing. Some are just used for comedic and obvious reasons of fun.

 

[Cool Guy 36]

I don't think Lucas' rope snake with Prince Sable is a hint or a reference to Snake the character. I think it's a visual gag, as all the trailers include a lot of them. There are references to the game itself, but sometimes the scene is just suppose to make you smile.

Yea, I do agree that it is just a gag. I just though this to myself that this was a reference, but I just think they just make this for fun. That's it. Sorry for mistaking it for a reference. But anyway, I just glad that we don't know what the next characters going to be because we all want to be surprise.

 

[pupNapoleon]

....but "Everything is foreshadowing," is such a fun game to play!
Just like the, "Everything is promotion," game, or the, "Most deserving," game.

Or duck, duck, goose!
Man...talk of the feels.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Source Gaming recently did a roundtable with reactions to the Smash/Nintendo rumors. Includes opinions from @Neo Zero and Tamaki. I know you guys talk about Inklings/ Shovel Knight a lot so I figured I should give you guys a heads up.

Great, people overrating Shovel Knight in terms of his significance to Nintendo. If any third-party franchise is getting heavily pushed by Nintendo, it's obviously Yo-Kai Watch and yet I don't see tons of people saying Jibanyan is likely because of that despite Yo-Kai Watch being a much bigger franchise over in Japan than Shovel Knight is anywhere. Shove Knight getting an amiibo (one that Yatch Club themself produced and Nintendo merely licensed) no longer means anything consideirng it's confirmed that any indie character can have an amiibo made for them.

As for Inklings, they don't need a rumour to support them either way as they have plenty of merits to make it in as Smash DLC. They are easily one of the most highly requested characters in general and probably the most highly requested newcomer franchise character in the West (the only newcomer Nintendo franchise character that rivals their demands in the West is Isaac). Over in Japan, they still maintain their high level of requests. They also have great uniqueness potential due to their ink mechanics. Also, Splatoon was such a huge success.

 

[-crump-]

Great, people overrating Shovel Knight in terms of his significance to Nintendo. If any third-party franchise is getting heavily pushed by Nintendo, it's obviously Yo-Kai Watch and yet I don't see tons of people saying Jibanyan is likely because of that despite Yo-Kai Watch being a much bigger franchise over in Japan than Shovel Knight is anywhere. Shove Knight getting an amiibo (one that Yatch Club themself produced and Nintendo merely licensed) no longer means anything consideirng it's confirmed that any indie character can have an amiibo made for them.

Thing with Shovel Knight is, he was extremely popular in the ballot, especially in the casual crowd. Nintendo obviously sees the demand for him, and they also happen to have a good relationship with his creator.
Jibanyan is like a reverse Shovel Knight. He's popular in Japan, but unknown in the West.

 

[GreenKirby]

You know who else are popular? Especially amongst the casual crowd?

Nintendo characters from Nintendo franchises that already proven to have staying power while Shovel Knight didn't even break 800k.

 

[-crump-]

You know who else are popular? Especially amongst the casual crowd?

Nintendo characters from Nintendo franchises that already proven to have staying power while Shovel Knight didn't even break 800k.

Care to elaborate?

I am by no means saying Shovel Knight was the only popular choice, mearly pointing out the fact that he was, in fact, very popular, especially in the casual crowd, where "relevancy to Nintendo" doesn't mean half as much as it does here.

 

[GreenKirby]

Where is this perceive popularity coming from? Because from what I've seen, it's just confirmation bias thanks to those dumb rumors.

And yes relevancy to Nintendo does matter? Why would Nintendo pay the licensing fees for a character who may not be around seven years from now when they can use their own characters who are much popular? Sonic/Mega Man tier Shovel Knight is not.

 

[-crump-]

Where is this perceive popularity coming from? Because from what I've seen, it's just confirmation bias thanks to those dumb rumors.

And yes relevancy to Nintendo does matter? Why would Nintendo pay the licensing fees for a character who may not be around seven years from now when they can use their own characters who are much popular? Sonic/Mega Man tier Shovel Knight is not.

Shovel Knight has been highly requested since the beginning of the ballot, long before any "leaks" occurred. The leaks did revamp his popularity, sure, but he always did fairly well on Internet polls, especially those not heavily rooted in the Smash community.

Also, you still don't care to elaborate on these Nintendo characters with proven staying power you mentioned earlier. Please do, I'm quite curious.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I believe the kind of "Nintendo characters with staying power" he is referring to are the DK duo and Wolf (Ice Climbers also qualify, but they are not feasible as 3DS DLC)

 

[NintenZ]

I personally don't think Shovel Knight would be a good idea at all, nor do I have any idea why he'd be included. There's absolutely no reason why he'd be included outside of popularity, which is scarce. :/

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I could see Shovel Knight happening, though I'm mostly indifferent to him.

Haven't played the game so I can't say I'd be against or in favor of him, really.

 

[NintenZ]

I could see Shovel Knight happening, though I'm mostly indifferent to him.

Haven't played the game so I can't say I'd be against or in favor of him, really.

Why? Hope you don't mind asking but I'm kinda curious. :3

 

[GreenKirby]

I believe the kind of "Nintendo characters with staying power" he is referring to are the DK duo and Wolf (Ice Climbers also qualify, but they are not feasible as 3DS DLC)

Actually staying power was referring to the franchises. Even the dead ones like F-Zero had more games than Shovel Knight.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Why? Hope you don't mind asking but I'm kinda curious. :3

Ballot popularity.

I'd rather not debate on this particular matter though as I personally believe it only gives him a chance. Not a particularly strong one I'd say, but it is there.

 

[IndigoSSB]

Is Japan still in the dark about Shovel Knight? Last I checked the Japanese had very little exposure to the franchise, so much so that many people didn't even know who he was. We all know he has support in the west, but the Japanese's opinion matter just as much, if not more.