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Disney is notoriously stingy and demanding, even more than WB in fact. They're so picky and ****ty to work with in fact that they rejected the MVS pitch outright which led to WB picking it up instead.
I mean, why wouldn't it be? They own the characters and are in charge of what happens to them and I have yet to see any example of them being any different
I mean I can throw the same thing at you. Got anything concrete that they aren't like that? Because most of the crossovers they've made lean more towards the safe and marketable
yes cause there’s nothing safe and marketable about Kermit the frog and darth Vader
I mean that's just par for the course for how Disney crossovers usually go: it's rare that a franchise's representation is limited to a single character unless it's a relatively obscure one or a franchise that wouldn't fit as well into whatever type of game it was. Their approach is usually "let's add in This franchise, do it justice, and then move onto the next one." Plus as an aside, Speedstorm eventually added stuff from The Muppets anyway, with Kermit and Miss Piggy being racers, while Rowlf, Scooter, Sam, Robin, Foo Foo, Pepe, Sweetums, and Rizzo are crewmates. The fact that there are still notable absences (Fozzie and Gonzo chief among them, while Bunsen and Beaker, Statler and Waldorf, and the Electric Mayhem are also notable) implies they're not even done with them yet.
As an additional note, even when they do crossover appearances, it's usually on their turf, especially in the case of the FOX acquisitions, primarily the Simpsons
Yeah, the Simpsons very much stays in its own lane, with any crossover being one that's already Simpsons-based, like you said.
I think Simpsons had a video game license under EA which mandated not appearing in any other video game (I’m not sure how Lego Dimensions managed to include Simpsons if this were true). However with Tapped Out having ended last month I wouldn’t be surprised if Simpsons becomes more mainstay in other games.
the Simpsons license in Lego dimensions was notable strict
Yeah, I like keeping track of which games add what lol. The main game rosters I used to get a feel for what tends to get in a Disney crossover were Disney Infinity, Magic Kingdoms, Sorcerer's Arena, Heroes: Battle Mode, Emoji Blitz, Speedstorm, and Mirrorverse. Twisted Wonderland is very much its own thing so I didn't count it, and Kingdom Hearts is another can of worms entirely lol.
I fail to see the problem with multiple Aladdin characters.
Nah I get what you're saying. Though with specifically how Multiversus used WB properties, it's worth pointing out that the last one that was the result of a buyout was all the way back in 1996 with WB buying Turner Entertainment, almost thirty years ago. Out of the seven core copyright notices in Multiversus (Warner Bros, DC, Cartoon Network Studios, Hanna-Barbera, Turner Entertainment, New Line Cinema, and HBO), three of them (WB itself, CN, and HBO) were always under the WB umbrella of ownership, while DC had been bought in 1969. So it's really only like...four characters on the final roster who are only here due to buyouts: Shaggy, Velma, Tom and Jerry, and Jason. It would've been bumped up to six if we got the Wicked Witch and Scooby-Doo, but still.
adding on to what you're saying about acquisitions it is worth noting that by all accounts disney owned most of pixar franchises present in these crossovers before they bought the studio.
Look, I don't think there's a significant difference between acquired and homegrown IPs, any character being property of the Disney/Nickelodeon/Warner Bros/Nintendo/e.t.c. corporation instead of the original artist is a kind of theft in and of itself regardless of what halls that character was grown in... (that's literally the notion the Disney company was founded on... what an unlucky twist.) that being said, Ice Age being in Disney Magic Kingdoms feels like an actual sin.
Not completely accurate. CN was created and owned by Turner Entertainment in 1992, and the company merged with WB in 1996. HBO was founded in 1986 and merged with WB in 1990.
From my own analysis, it seems Disney isn't too keen on featuring their more kid friendly characters doing violent stuff like fighting, so im not sure how open they'll be to a platform fighter
Personally, I think they made a mistake including live action stuff. Not that those characters were bad or undeserving by any means, but it would have given the game a LOT more cohesion if they had just focused on animated characters the same way NASB did.
huh. I didn't expect anyone to do this much analysis in response to what I said. I didn't know all this, this actually makes me feel a lot less cynical about these crossovers. I wasn't expecting the amount of characters from acquisitions to only be 4. I just... assumed it would be more. (I think I was just thinking WB acquiring DC was as recent as Disney buying Marvel) With companies like nintendo you can really see the creative through-lines between stuff like Zelda, Mario, and Pikmin, so it all just feels more connected. Or maybe it's just that I mentally associate movies with directors or writers more than their distribution company, idk.
I get your opinion, but personally I love the live action stuff in Multiversus because it showed early how crazy the crossover can be. Having Game of thrones in the game was a pretty big deal. Also I wouldn't say most live action characters were met with disdain, I guess Gremlins was seen as "boring" by many, but Beetlejuice had very positive reception aside from younger folks who didn't know who he is. Jason and Agent Smith had very positive reception. Other live action characters like The mask or Mad Max were pretty highly requested.
Big Hero 6 is a weird case because the copyright actually shifted from Marvel to Disney proper after the Marvel buyout, and considering the movie versions of the characters are genuinely nothing like the comic versions, I wasn't including Big Hero 6 when I mentioned the Marvel properties.
Oh I agree lol. Like say what you will about their handling of The Muppets or Star Wars or what have you, but what they did to Blue Sky after the acquisition was disgusting, and them parading the Ice Age IP around like their own definitely rubs me the wrong way.
Yeah that was sloppy on my part. I was mostly getting at the fact that none of the CN properties in the game right now were from the pre-acquisition days, but I should have been more clear.
For what it's worth, half of the games I listed are heavily combat based. Historically the one property that was off limits for combat-based stuff was Winnie the Pooh, but then Mirrorverse and Sorcerer's Arena were able to add, respectively, Tigger, and Tigger/Pooh/Eeyore. So I don't know if they finally loosened things for Winnie the Pooh or what.
I get where you're coming from, and I agree with some aspects, but over all I do disagree. Or, well, at least mostly.
That's fair. You could probably make an argument for The Powerpuff Girls by technicality of the pilot shorts predating the acquisition, but the show itself was after so... they're kind of a gray area I guess.
I'm not saying that the inclusion of live action characters hurt the game in itself, but I agree particularly with Opossum in that the execution felt ultimately half baked. Arya was included as a way to show how insane this crossover could potentially get... and then she proceeded to be the only live action character who wasn't a skin, based off a real person, or a non-human Gremlin until the relaunch. And while the novelty of Arya being there is hilarious all it's own, she's just kind of not all that interesting. It's very easy to forget she's even there when this same game has Bugs Bunny and The Joker in it.
huh I had no idea the rights had actually moved from one to the other. although thinking about I suppose a marvel copyright notice was missing from the crossovers. a bit of a shame I quite liked their comic book counterparts. comic fred has got what I consider a very memorable power
it is quite visually pleasing
