MultiVersus General Discussion

[ivanlerma]

Honestly PSASBR wasn't terrible, it's just that stupid system of having to kill with supers that ruins it. I mean the roster isn't phenomenal but the core gameplay would be a lot of fun if it was just rungout based or had health meters.

I'd say Multiversus is around roughly the same level of quality. With some tweaks it could work a lot vetter

i would defend the system any day then hate on it cause it tried to be different.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

i would defend the system any day then hate on it cause it tried to be different.

I don't quite understand what you're saying here but I'll say this:

PSASBR wasn't bad for wanting to be different. I don't mind when platform fighters do things different - it's the fact that the way it did things differently wasn't good. Having to kill with supers means that doing damage is pointless outside of building meter. Even then most of the Level One and Two Supers just weren't very useful in the first place.

 

[Faso115]

For now, we shall wait and see. I assume all the things happening (season delay, voice changes) are WB changing things behind the scenes. We will see what happens in the New Year.

While I’m here:

At the very least the music in this game DOES NOT dissapoint

 

[Opossum]

Honestly PSASBR wasn't terrible, it's just that stupid system of having to kill with supers that ruins it. I mean the roster isn't phenomenal but the core gameplay would be a lot of fun if it was just rungout based or had health meters.

I'd say Multiversus is around roughly the same level of quality. With some tweaks it could work a lot vetter

Oh no, I agree. That's actually what I was getting at lol. Like both are games riddled with their own unfortunate issues with some similarities in their circumstances, and are about the same quality in my eyes.

Though I'm probably more forgiving of the super system in PSASBR than most because I mained Sackboy, who had a solid level one and a RIDICULOUS level two lmao.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Oh no, I agree. That's actually what I was getting at lol. Like both are games riddled with their own unfortunate issues with some similarities in their circumstances, and are about the same quality in my eyes.

Though I'm probably more forgiving of the super system in PSASBR than most because I mained Sackboy, who had a solid level one and a RIDICULOUS level two lmao.

It's been so long since I played it but Sackboy was really fun I remember. Him, Sly, and Kat. Tbh the super system might even work with some rehauling. I actually kinda want a sequel at this point, they've got a lot of great picks they could go for nowadays. Astro and Jin Sakai being the biggest standouts to me personally.

Speaking of overhauls, I've said it before and I'll say it again I really hate the whole class system in MvS, not by principle, just on the fact it means nothing. In a class-based system you want to provide a central core theme and give them abilities or skills unique to what they are. Give them different defensive options, a dedicated passive for each class shared amongst them, or like an ability/buff based on the pair of classes your team is. Just something because right now it's nothing that a tag couldn't do the job of better [Brawler, Rushdown, Zoner, Grappler, etc.] It's wasted potential for sure. Hell, even the loss of Support stings because it could've been so much more interesting.

 

[Faso115]

30 minutes from now, Marceline should be available

 

[Mikegamer0608]

Have ya'll seen the first cover for DC x Sonic the hedgehog comic?
https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1870163003712164299

 

[MBRedboy31]

Last night I grinded to unlock Marceline (I already had 5k fighter road experience from character level ups saved in advance for it) and also somehow completed the entire Power Pledge event. (Good thing I already had some holiday skins from Beta. I could’ve gotten the sweater Bugs or Joker skin, but I wanted the Marceline sweater skin from that event instead.)

 

[SneakyLink]

So…

Multiversus Twitter recently posted a video advertising the Unicorn Reindog skin using the audio from Charlie the Unicorn.

Problem is, according to the creator of Charlie the Unicorn, WB didn’t ask permission for the audio.

 

[Ivander]

So…

Multiversus Twitter recently posted a video advertising the Unicorn Reindog skin using the audio from Charlie the Unicorn.

Problem is, according to the creator of Charlie the Unicorn, WB didn’t ask permission for the audio.

I did see that and by default, it's not a good look. But I heard something that the creator didn't care for TikTok or other video users using audio from Charlie the Unicorn, despite the fact that TikTok has a creator's system thing similar to Youtube's, meaning that there are people out there making money from using copyrighted audio and clips.
The Multiversus advertisement team should've asked for permission, sure. But why exactly do random TikToks and whatnot get the free pass? Especially the ones making money from the same audio and clips?

 

[SneakyLink]

I did see that and by default, it's not a good look. But I heard something that the creator didn't care for TikTok or other video users using audio from Charlie the Unicorn, despite the fact that TikTok has a creator's system thing similar to Youtube's, meaning that there are people out there making money from using copyrighted audio and clips.
The Multiversus advertisement team should've asked for permission, sure. But why exactly do random TikToks and whatnot get the free pass? Especially the ones making money from the same audio and clips?

Based on another tweet by the creator, I assume it’s a “big corporation using it without permission = bad” situation.

 

[Faso115]

It's a silly little video they made, not a big deal on paper. But yeah, they should've asked for permission

 

[Opossum]

It really is something seeing the marketing team for this game go from incompetent to actually despicable. There's no defending this ****.

 

[ivanlerma]

It really is something seeing the marketing team for this game go from incompetent to actually despicable. There's no defending this ****.

Besides the video probably being funny.

 

[Opossum]

Besides the video probably being funny.

That literally doesn't matter. It's no longer "funny" when they literally stole the audio from a well known indie internet animation.

 

[ivanlerma]

Ignore this

 

[Will]

So…

Multiversus Twitter recently posted a video advertising the Unicorn Reindog skin using the audio from Charlie the Unicorn.

Problem is, according to the creator of Charlie the Unicorn, WB didn’t ask permission for the audio.

This was such a cringeworthy flop out of their team. It’s like they want people to have reasons to dislike the game.

 

[Donaldtoon]

What if Johnny Bravo is the mystery character of season 5? where we would had a blonde muscular guy theme season

 

[Faso115]

What if Johnny Bravo is the mystery character of season 5? where we would had a blonde muscular guy theme season

Honestly im all down for it. 2 tanks for the season

 

[SneakyLink]

Nakat gave us a tease as to the next character’s play style via his Twitter.

Specifically, he stated the character has a lot of unique specials and leans into conventional move designs seen in other platform fighters not yet seen in Multiversus.

 

[Opossum]

Nakat gave us a tease as to the next character’s play style via his Twitter.

Specifically, he stated the character has a lot of unique specials and leans into conventional move designs seen in other platform fighters not yet seen in Multiversus.

Obviously it's vague enough to be anyone, but I feel like you could make a strong case for Aquaman in particular.

Aquaman being a season five character is kind of an open secret at this point, so he's already on the table. He could have TONS of options for special attacks just due to how expansive his skills are (water attacks, aquatic creature summons, storm and lightning attacks, a rekka style attack with his trident, etc).

And then for a conventional platfighter archetype not yet in...we don't really have a character with a universal tipper mechanic, do we? I think Nubia has a tipper mechanic tied to one of her perks, but not anything universal. A trident user would make a ton of sense in this regard.

 

[Faso115]

Wait, Aquaman is the water guy right?

What about....Wavedashing?

 

[Will]

mfw the 5th season opens with the 4th DC Comics newcomer

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

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mfw the 5th season opens with the 4th DC Comics newcomer

Stuff like this is why I personally divide the DC heroes into their own franchises to begin with. Otherwise, we already have our Fire Emblem equivalent for the game.

 

[Opossum]

I mean...DC is literally WB's biggest brand, and it isn't even close. There could be twelve DC characters on a roster of forty and it wouldn't be half as egregious as the four Adventure Time characters.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

I mean...DC is literally WB's biggest brand, and it isn't even close. There could be twelve DC characters on a roster of forty and it wouldn't be half as egregious as the four Adventure Time characters.

Good point regarding Adventure Time. What's worse is that it's also the equivalent to Hey Arnold's representation in NASB 2. Especially now that the Candy Kingdom is a stage, but the fighter from that land is (insert dead horse remains here).

 

[Faso115]

Looking back on speculation from early this year is very funny given how wrong we have been getting things.

My theory about the characters we have gotten being hinted in the launch trailed remained largely true. The ones that don't really fit that description were Beetlejuice and Nubia, pretty sure none of them were even remotely hinted at in the trailer.

Prob should elaborate on a potential 2025 schedule, if we manage to go past season 6. Anyway:

Spoiler: Datamine talk

So from the C0 list the ones remaining are Witch, Aquaman and if you want to count him, Mr. Meeseeks. Then we have the nebulous three (Pickle Rick, Gandalf and Daffy) and whatever Ruby's deal is.

What not many folk here have mentioned is that now there's a C022B in the files, which is like, is Witch getting an echo? Or another Wizard of Oz character? What's up with that?

Ok so that leaves 4 slots we have no idea who they are, those being C032, 37, 38 and 39 (C033 is potentially ruby rose)

So i believe the potential candidates for those slots could be the following:

• Gandalf or Daffy could C038, but in the files they are listed differently. The recent teases make me think Daffy is coming real soon
• Scooby Doo. Not only is he featured a lot in the comic, there are voicelines talking about him from both shaggy and velma, so at least he's future proofed and it so happens a lot of characters that came out were already future proofed too except a few instances
• Dexter. He's like the one big elephant in the room where he's hinted at everywhere but he's missing. His VA has recorded lines for 2 games, so im pretty sure one of them is MVS.
• Lapis Lazuli. Similar situation as Dexter, except a bit more vague, with her VA saying she did some videogame stuff and left it at that.
• Freddy Krueger and Pennywise. They were hinted at in Into the Verse streams but files have nothing on them yet.
• Poison Ivy. This one is odd cause Batman has lines for her, but only Batman. She probably is still being considered but it could take a while for her to come. Notably, Raven used to have lines for Daenerys back in the beta but they've been taken out from the live release

 

[SneakyLink]

Once again, we have a new event.

Featuring skins for:
Iron Giant, Agent Smith, and Nubia (All Elusive. Battle Pass also contains an Uncommon event skin for Iron Giant at Tier 10 (and the skin is free)).

Shaggy and Velma (They have both Rare and Uncommon skins)

Harley Quinn, Batman, Gizmo, and Stripe (all Uncommon)

Works like the Halloween and Mythic Vista event.

Jason also has a skin tied to this event, but his is the grand prize for the final Rift.

Edit: Event is bugged and not showing on my end. The missions are still showing as is the shop.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I'm sorry but I can't support this **** anymore. The constant spamming of FOMO elusive skins that "might come back", the needless grind for everything, the constant bugs, I'm done.

It's obvious that they're just trying to squeeze as much cash as possible out of suckers before they close up shop in a few months, and I'm not gonna be one of them.

 

[LimeTH]

Once again, we have a new event.

Featuring skins for:
Iron Giant, Agent Smith, and Nubia (All Elusive. Battle Pass also contains an Uncommon event skin for Iron Giant at Tier 10 (and the skin is free)).

Shaggy and Velma (They have both Rare and Uncommon skins)

Harley Quinn, Batman, Gizmo, and Stripe (all Uncommon)

Works like the Halloween and Mythic Vista event.

Jason also has a skin tied to this event, but his is the grand prize for the final Rift.

Edit: Event is bugged and not showing on my end. The missions are still showing as is the shop.

Bugged for me too, but the shop is accessible.

 

[SneakyLink]

The constant spamming of FOMO elusive skins that "might come back"

Wanted to comment specifically on this point.

I agree that the constant FOMO is really bad, especially since other games seem to be moving away from FOMO.

Take Fortnite, the game made it so that all Battle Passes were exclusive to the season it ran. Missed a pass? Well, hope none of the 36 collabs that were exclusive were your most wanted (and yes I know some of them have alternate versions that can return). Since the second Marvel season, the items in the pass can return.

Yet here’s Multiversus, with a new set of FOMO skins every month.

 

[Kirbeh]

I'm sorry but I can't support this **** anymore. The constant spamming of FOMO elusive skins that "might come back", the needless grind for everything, the constant bugs, I'm done.

It's obvious that they're just trying to squeeze as much cash as possible out of suckers before they close up shop in a few months, and I'm not gonna be one of them.

In the same boat to be honest. Didn't even bother checking out Marceline. Rifts have at no point ever been enjoyable, and the grind/monetization/FOMO stuff has arguably gotten worse.

In my case, the FOMO isn't as bad in the sense that they don't add content that I care about, but that's not really a point in their favor either... More importantly it shouldn't be that way for all the players who are actually trying to stay with the game.

Casual FFA, 2v2s and 1v1s are still fun, it's just a shame that it's a 50/50 on whether the game will lag or outright crash or DC anytime you hop into a match.

I still plan on keeping an eye on MVS in case they somehow turn things around. I want it to be better, to be successful- it just doesn't seem like it'll ever get there.

 

[Faso115]

Honestly quite embarrassing the event is still bugged.

 

[ivanlerma]

Guess who's Number 5

Spoiler: how i feel and will likely get me banned.

i do not respect all of you

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Guess who's Number 5

Spoiler: how i feel and will likely get me banned.

i do not respect all of you

Skipped to a random point and he's trying to "both sides" the 'woke debate', which seems a lot more damning than just not liking MultiVersus.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Skipped to a random point and he's trying to "both sides" the 'woke debate', which seems a lot more damning than just not liking MultiVersus.

Joshscorcher is and has always been a political centrist, so that's where he's always been on the line. He also has writers on both sides of the political spectrum, which probably doesn't help with that.

 

[LimeTH]

I gotta say, even with the Elusive skins debacle and the continuous bugs, the sheer amount of venomous bile hatred this game has been getting lately has been kind of staggering? Like people are actively rooting for it to die and are constantly berating devs in any platforms they can over just being involved in the game at all. What the **** did it do? Because just adding in shields, having wonky hit detection, and putting in Nubia before Daffy Duck shouldn't be enough to act like the game's existence is a moral failing on a societal level.

 

[Kirbeh]

I gotta say, even with the Elusive skins debacle and the continuous bugs, the sheer amount of venomous bile hatred this game has been getting lately has been kind of staggering? Like people are actively rooting for it to die and are constantly berating devs in any platforms they can over just being involved in the game at all. What the **** did it do? Because just adding in shields, having wonky hit detection, and putting in Nubia before Daffy Duck shouldn't be enough to act like the game's existence is a moral failing on a societal level.

People like acting outraged and in the case of social media, using it for engagement.

If my last post didn't make it obvious, I've little hope left for the game and don't really have any faith in WB to stop meddling enough to let the devs breathe. I've no end of criticisms of my own but the rooting for failure isn't something I support. The people that feel tired and burned I understand, but berating the devs is unnecessary and only serves to demoralize a team that's already under constant pressure from WB.

There isn't really a solution for that though, people being toxic is nothing new.

 

[Faso115]

The bad first impression still haunts the game to this day. And let's not kid ourselves, the grind for character unlocks have gotten way worse.

Like, new popular characters can bring people but the artificial trial pre-release period coupled with the grind in fighter road AND that if you are a brand new player, the newer characters are at the bottom makes it so it takes forever to unlock if you say, wanna play as Raven.

They definitely need to improve on the grind for new characters. Balance i don't really care tbh, Multiversus becomes a lot more bearable if you avoid playing ranked

 

[SneakyLink]

The bad first impression still haunts the game to this day. And let's not kid ourselves, the grind for character unlocks have gotten way worse.

Like, new popular characters can bring people but the artificial trial pre-release period coupled with the grind in fighter road AND that if you are a brand new player, the newer characters are at the bottom makes it so it takes forever to unlock if you say, wanna play as Raven.

They definitely need to improve on the grind for new characters. Balance it don't really care tbh, Multiversus becomes a lot more bearable if you avoid playing ranked

It doesn't help that the game buries the fact that every character is available in local play/training (not every variant though, yet that was in the beta).

Which I have to give them praise for, although not too much, they did remove the feature at launch and only added it back in around Betelguise's release.

And yeah, a bad first impression definitely hurt the game in the long run.