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Do what fighting game do with characters with multiple jumps air dashes are the same as a jump, 4 jumps total equals 1 jump and 3 air dashes or 2 and 2 or 3 and 1
I thought of that too but the idea of having multiple air dashes would feel too strong of an advantage in a platform fighter imo
If they do that, they'll also likely add some risk to it so it's not objectively better than just moving normally.
What NASB did was add a wavedashing macro so all you need to do is press Jump+Shield simultaneously.
It's actually the changes in jumping that make wavedashing less likely, particularly the velocity and universal jumpsquat (minus Kazuya) making the timing incredibly tight if even possible.
Kirby and Jiggs be zoomin'. lol
My suggestion is to change the Dash input so that:
I don't expect them to split it by direction when there could instead be a dedicated "dash" button and you just use the control stick to choose the direction. Maybe holding "dash" makes you strafe too so you don't turn around...?
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You could add that striking a creeper with electric attacks makes it stronger, larger explosion radius and possibly a shorter fuse. Though, I could change that creepers are a wild card since it can hurt both friend and foe if caught in the blast radius.
-Mumbo Jumbo: Transform the players into washing machines
Here's a new take on an old one.
"Hey, you. Yeah, you. Did you just reset that last fight? Who am I, you ask? You don't remember me, do you? I'm Mr. Resetti. You know, that one guy from the Animal Crossing series? Every time someone resets the console that's currently playing Animal Crossing, I appear to berate them. Anyway, one thing you should know about me is…
-Project their Reflectors in midair and use them as platforms to kick off from. - Magical glyph thing. Your standard anime fighter air dash. - - Sora gets an air dash in some KH games (Air Slide), so just use that here. - Characters with wings, or some other means of levitation or propulsion would get an 8-way air dash, allowing them to advance or retreat in any direction, or even serve as a short pseudo jump. - Wario is surprisingly one of these characters. He achieves this using his jetpack from Get It Together! When using his Classic costume though, this is changed to Jet Wario from the original Wario Land. - Most tethers throw out said tether to try and grab the stage ledge, though this is also where we also start to see a little more variance.- Luigi's plunger will actually stick to walls, allowing him to briefly wall cling. - Ditches Peach's float for the Grappling Vine from Super Mario Bros. Wonder. - The return of Chain. Just as a tether though. - The return of Pikmin Chain (with hopefully an increased number of Pikmin allowed on screen.) The length and, by extension, effectiveness of this tether will be dependent and the amount of Pikmin in your current party. - Peach's float gets move to holding Z-Air instead of being activated by holding jump.- Ganondorf and Jr.'s Clown Cart can also float, even moving up or down, but they're both a bit slower than Peach making their floats rather sluggish in exchange for the higher freedom of movement. - Gets his dive from the 3D Mario games, allowing to descend quickly while covering decent distances on or off stage. - The return of Koopa Klaw. It's an air grab exclusively now. It lacks the power and cheese potential of Flying Slam, but the claw swipe gives it greater range and makes it safer even if you whiff the grab. - Summons a platform beneath him from, I actually forget which classic Mega Man exactly, but it's there. Outright serves as a temporary platform wherever it's placed, meaning it can also be used by opponents. - Blows a big bubble that he then lays on top of, riding it as it drifts. Can be steered left or right but will pop when attacked.
YEAH, YOU UNDERSTAND THE VISION
I thought you were going to suggest that his 8-way air dash is a fart for some reason. lol
Are you referring to Item 1 from Mega Man 2?
Imagine a fart 8-way-dash but it consumes a little bit of the waft he's built up every time he uses it.
As stupid as the idea of Wario dashing all over the place by cutting the cheese is, it might actually be a more healthy design choice for the character since now he has to choose between using his powerful movement options and the dummy strong K.O. option.
Colonel Campbell DID say Wario can fart to fly around....
I hate this. But it works so well. But I hate it. But the design is sound. But I hate this...
They also made everyone's traction high as heck in Ultimate. I never liked this, it took away Luigi's signature slipperiness, but they'll do anything to stifle any competitive edge the game could've had I guess.
Ultimate honestly just feels so weird to me, not even just the general game feel but for a lot of other choices as well. It's very clear they tried to throw a bone toward the more competitive players, but they only did so in roundabout ways that don't actually appeal to said players.
They're worried about the game being inaccessible to casuals while simultaneously making most DLC fighters more complex than base game ones. How is Kazuya having Tekken wavedashing built in better than wavedashing being a universal mechanic exactly?
I'll never forget how dumbly implemented the stage hazard toggle is.
Every / most characters having unique Zairs is actually kind of insane, in a good way because it provides them with more mobility/attack options for a button that doesn't do much in the air. How has nobody brought up an idea like this before??I think air dashes would a good addition, but I actually wouldn't make them universal personally. Rather, Z-Airs would be universal, not in the sense that they'd all be tethers like the existing ones, but in that every character would actually have a Z-Air.
A majority of these would probably be air dashes but you'd still get a few different functions for some characters (like tethers).
I haven't thought of something for every character but here's a few.
Forward/Backward Air Dash - A standard forward or backward air dash.
He's just built different.Probably some sort of fiery falcon motif as you'd expect.
8-Way Air Dash -
To try and make this a bit more balanced, upwards directions travel a shorter distance than going downward or to the sides. Characters who already have multiple jumps, consume 1 jump for air dashing, but get slightly more distance to compensate (except for upward dashes. If you want the height, it's still better to just jump again.)
Tether -
A bit unrelated, but I'd personally also remove the whole weight mechanic to Up Special or simply add additional Winged Pikmin that carry the other Pikmin and trail behind Olimar. Olimar would then have the ability to still grab one to swing at opponents, to try and protect his Pikmin on their way back to stage. Never liked how Olimar is incentivized to just off his current party in order to recover.
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Because guest fighters have to feel "right" and making a Mishima Crouch Dash bad would be criminal with how important it is to their game plan.
Going for some third party ideas for this one:
I'm NGL this is some big brain thinking. I don't quite agree with every move choice you gave, but this would solve the problem of having to give universal animations to the entire cast. Only thing is, no tether for the Yoshi? He's built for it
The traction change, the landing lag and the penalty you get for using dodges too much were already enough to neuter wavedashes into near uselessness.
King Bob-omb would be a fantastic assist trophy. I'd love to see him get something notable in Smash
...Which Hilda do you have in mind? Cause there are too many of them and Nintendo has at least 4 of them. And I certainly know 3 out of 4 of them are an absolute poor comparison.
Because this post is actually getting some likes, I wanna further add that I don't think this is a Nintendo decision, given that the Splatoon team have embraced sub strafing, an exploit which granted enhanced movement by holding your sub weapon button them immediately going back to swimming, to such a degree one of the Splatoon 2 patches made sure it was possible with any sub weapon that couldn't do it before and that change was never reverted; even Splatoon 3's new sub gets to have fun with it.
