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Nah, I love Wario too much.
Okay I'll edit.
Sounds good. But doesn't he get zoned like Ness?
Eh, it's to painful. X:I'm a bit surprised you've gone through a lot of characters and haven't gotten to characters like GW, Snake, and D3 yet. IMO I prefer doing top tier characters first and going down from there
., although I'm not the best at it 
.As far as gimping goes, Ness' answer to his gimping problem are in bold color.Hi Ness mains, I'll try to give some insight on this match-up, if you guys don't mind me on these boards.
Onto the Match-Up.
Mario's FLUUD, and Cape can wreck Ness' recovery (obviously) but recovering from a fairly low distance should save you, since Mario's won't tend to go that low to gimp, risking a live off of there stock. Ness has great aerial moves, but I think Mario's have more range, except Ness' f-air is really disjointed, and will range a lot of Mario's ground/air approaches.
Mario's will be very picky about Fireballs, since PSI Magnet (?) absorbs the damage, and a lot of Mario's approaches start with a Fireball. Ness is kinda light, and can die maybe 100% from an Fsmash, and about 120% from a Usmash.
Mario mains may not really want to use FLUUD Induced Hit Lag, and save it for the 'gimping' you if you use PK Thunder, at bad times.
On the ground, I think Mario has a bit more range then Ness, but again Ness f-air is amazing at approaching with Mario. Also Mario's recovery is a bit easy to read, so you could easily pull of a d-air for a spike on Mario. Also Ness' f-throw (?) kills at like 110%.
Umm...also be careful how you use PK Fire, use it suprisingly, and don't go around using it too much, most Mario's will Cape it, then Cape you while your stuck in the PK Fire (I've done like 50% from one before, but I assume most Ness mains will get out of the PK Fire right away) Umm if a Mario does perhaps mis the edge, and get Recovery Lag, use PK Flash, PK Flash is probably a really good edguard against Mario.
I hope you liked my input...it was the best I could do
If you disagree with anything let me know, and I will do best to debate
Maybe, I thought Ness has an amazing second jump, so you won't have to worry about recovering, when trying to 'gimp'. Unless if Mario's Cape hitbox hits your d-air, but we'll most likely get spiked, and you will still have your Double Jump + PK Thunder left to recover while we fall .
I still haven't gotten over that.
Your first video, I was told that one was a lag fest.
Elaborate please. If Ness has his double jump, you aren't gimping him anytime soon. If he is ever forced to use PKT2, he recovers directly under the stage. No real reason to get gimped.
Well.. I usually play against East Coast people, and I never lag... And Vicegrip lives miles away from me.. so I don't see why we would lag? That video was old, so I forget if there was lag or not. All I remember was that he was saying that the level gimped him on his first stock.
Countless times I've been able to hit a fireball on a Ness at the beginning of his second jump, stopping him from being able to fully jump. Check :40 on my first video for an example.
Perhaps they should air dodge when they return.
You might want to share with us what your jargon here means. I have no idea what FIHL is. Also, push aside the gimping for once. Anyone can gimp. As for the Cape, Ness doesn't only rely on projectile to win. A nair or dair can still hit while Mario uses his Cape. While we're still on the subject of Mario's Cape, don't forget that Ness can control his PK Thunder, which means, once you bring out that Cape, all Ness has to do is circle the PK Thunder and then strike with it while Mario lags from putting his Cape away.
Don't mean to say it for the 9000 time...but have you tried FLUDD?
1) Not sure what that is. Care to elaborate?
FLUDD is outprioritized by Ness's nair and sometimes fair. It won't gimp recovery as much. You will only end up forcing Ness's hand in trying to recover low.
FLUDD is a reliable way to gimp PK Thunder and the cape glide can be used to directly atk Ness quickly from far distances, also Mario can FLUDD wall (FW) with the cape glide. And although Ness can absorb fireballs, he cannot absorb the FLUDD. Additionally, FIHL is short for FLUDD Induced Hit Lag which cause opponent's atks to lag upon hitting the FLUDD.
This won't really matter since nair hitboxes last the entire or near-entire duration.
1. Explained above
First of all, that's not how FIHL works, and second of all recovering low is the worst thing you can do against Mario.
I didn't want to have to do this, but it was just waiting to happen. PSI Magnet Stall. This is a great way to avoid getting gimped no matter who the opponent is. Played Xyro77, was daired once but after doing that it just wasn't happening. I can't remember who's Ness I was playing, but he tried to dair me and pillar spike me with his Ness and using that stall there, it never happened. You can use your F.L.U.D.D. to try and gimp Ness, but don't think it's always going to work. Because as long as Ness has that stall, his second jump and PK Thunder, he's not going anywhere for awhile. You might as well grab a Snickers.
Mario still has his cape glide which allows him to atk directly very quickly from very far distances, also he can combine it with the FLUDD to make it unavoidable.
Ok, this is what I understood from this description. Basically, any attack that hits the water causes them to undergo hitlag and allows Mario to react. If an attack, like Ness's nair, hits FLUDD, then the hitbox stays for the hitlag the water induced. Since nair lasts nearly the entire animation, even in hitlag, then Mario would trade hits with any non-disjointed attack. Correct me on any points that seem incorrect.
1) Response awaiting correction above.
You're half right but the FLUDD still deals pushback while lagging that atk, making only extremely high-momentum atks able to have a chance to move through it.
Not sure what you mean.
FLUDD is for defending Mario's recovery, not enhancing it. Fireballs also work.
The point is that Mario can be atking you a the same time a fireball is hitting or about to hit you. You can absorb fireballs but you also have to be aware that you can be punished for doing so, even with PSI Magnet Cancel.
The Cape doesn't go very far. It's nothing like zair. It's more of a direct attack because you have to get near just to hit. It's not like zair where you can be at a distance to strike. And with Cape > F.L.U.D.D. just to gimp Ness, is it really worth the risk of getting KO'd yourself? Not by Ness, but by how far you decide to go out just to gimp your opponent? Also, it's not worth Caping Ness while he's using the PSI Magnet as a stall. I'll tell you why. Ness is obviously trying to return to the stage, but he inches towards it slightly which Caping really won't do much. It's not like Marth's Dolphin Slash where he can come close to the stage and then suddenly be turned around by Mario's Cape.
