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So Saturn is telling LoneKonWolf to start defending his side with facts that Tabuu isn't important, yet he also claims Tabuu is about as popular as Brawl itself and refuses to look for a source on that regard....


.......well alrighty then...
 

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So Saturn is telling people to start defending their side with facts that Tabuu isn't important, yet he states Tabuu is about as popular as Brawl itself and refuses to look for a source....
Agreed. Also,Tabuu is the same case as most Ridley haters : Being too big.
 

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You can have opinion and still state it smart alecky and have it completley prejudice based. And Tabuu's popularity is not opinion. Pretty much anyone who's played Brawl or is a Smash fan knows who he is.


Then you're clearly being ignorant because that is not what I heard from like 4-5 people when I posted the roster. Along with the people from IGN. So maybe you should start using facts to prove your point that Tabuu isn't important instead of your biased unorganized BS

If you disagree fine. But, use facts to defend your side. Again, while you and Oppossum are saying nobody thinks it's a good choice I've gotten like 10 Inbox Alerts of people who are on par with the idea.


Tabuu is about as popular as Brawl. I don't need a source for that. If you don't like him fine. But that doesn't make him worthless. He's 10x more important and well known than Muddy Mole is.
Popularity=\= notability.

Just because people play Brawl and enjoy Brawl doesn't mean they like Tabuu. Also, 4-5 people doesn't make him popular.

The statement should have been "most people don't like him". But again, just because even 10 people inbox you, it doesn't mean it's the greatest idea ever or that's uber popular.
 

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Popularity=\= notability.

Just because people play Brawl and enjoy Brawl doesn't mean they like Tabuu. Also, 4-5 people doesn't make him popular.

The statement should have been "most people don't like him". But again, just because even 10 people inbox you, it doesn't mean it's the greatest idea ever or that's uber popular.
Don't forget that Tabuu is in the Ridley Size scenario,being a large boss'n'all.
 

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Let me just clarify something now that the boards are back up

  • Practically anybody who's played Brawl or is a big Smash fan knows who Tabuu is. So saying he's not popular is bull ****
  • As far as I know, there are no characters that have giant shuriken boomerangs, Turn into a fish like blade, turn into a golden bracket, have a chain grab that is also a spin throw, have a sheild that breaks into damaging particles, clones explosive imposters of themselves, have heat vision, or or shock waves. So the generic part is bull ****. As if a giant hand, Ape that punches, and guy with cape and sword wasn't generic.
  • Sakurai usually doesn't care if you don't like a character. Especially if he thinks it's a good addition he can make work.
  • I've had way more positive feedback for Tabuu from both this site and Smashboards. Like maybe 12 people. As appose to maybe 4 here. So the claim that Literally NOBODY thinks Tabuu is a good idea or even likes him. is bull ****
  • Last time I checked Super Smash Brothers was a way more popular IP than Mole Mania, and more people knew about Tabuu before Muddy Mole. So in my opinion, saying Muddy Mole is more popular and important is bull ****. And the Miyamoto argument is a bad arguments considering Sakurai invented Tabuu and he's the one working on the game. Also the request thing is bull **** as that does not define importance or likeliness.
If you disagree or personally just hate Tabuu. Fine. I personally don't see why a naked old mand made out of cyber cells with all the above abilities mentioned is generic or why this is the only character seen as generic despite the love for Master Hand.

But, what's important and what I care is that while you people laugh, facepalm, and roll your eyes at me, more people are actually agreeing with me and are rather fond of the idea. I don't want to waste my time arguing with haters or people who are just biased so that's all I'm gonna say.
 

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Well, now that I've finally decided to come back, I should say that I think we'll be getting a reveal Tuesday, and if I had to guess who, it'd be Captain Falcon.
 

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Because you were totally being mature with the facepalm gif. Also are you new here or is this the first time you've seen somebody post a laugh gif?
Thinking that Tabuu has ANY sort of merit is facepalm worthy.

'scuse me?Source? Also so is Muddy Mole. loling right now. Because Sakurai cares about the Smash fans that ***** about Toon Link and all that. BARELY! Also why does retro make you higher priority than any character? Oh, that's cool. Tabuu was in one of SAKURAI'S masterpieces.
Combining this mess into one, since I can actually talk about it all in one quote.

Tabuu really isn't popular. Ask around. Very few people here seem to like Tabuu, if any at all. Even beyond here, where have you seen any positive mention of Tabuu? He's pretty much associated with what many consider a failed attempt at a giant story mode. Sakurai likes taking things from other Nintendo series to put into Smash, but if he was so modest as to keep Dedede and Meta Knight out until Brawl, why is it logical to think he'll put in Tabuu, who was made for the SSE? Toon Link has nothing to do with the SSE being nigh universally panned. And I never said that being retro made you a higher priority. Tabuu has no business being in the game as a playable character, and actually EXPECTING him is even worse.


Not as much as Tabuu I'm afraid.
Give me one playstyle idea for Tabuu. Not moveset, playstyle. Muddy has the trap-laying and digging mechanic. What sets Tabuu apart from the rest?
 

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You can have opinion and still state it smart alecky and have it completley prejudice based. And Tabuu's popularity is not opinion. Pretty much anyone who's played Brawl or is a Smash fan knows who he is.
People know the character =/= people like the character. Just because something is well-known doesn't mean it's popular.

Tabuu is about as popular as Brawl. I don't need a source for that.
Ofc you need a source for that. What kind of logic is this? Because a character appears in a game means they are as popular as the game and everything else in the game? Was Pichu as popular as Melee? Was Tingle as popular as WW? Was ROB as popular as Sonic? If Tabuu and Brawl were equally popular, logically a game starring solely Tabuu would sell equal to Brawl, which is just ridiculous.

Tabuu isn't popular. If you have a source that says otherwise, by all means share it.

The person who made your sig will be ended.
Yeah that seems like a perfectly proportional reaction to being a few days late on an AT. :rolleyes:
 

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Let me just clarify something now that the boards are back up

  • Practically anybody who's played Brawl or is a big Smash fan knows who Tabuu is. So saying he's not popular is bull ****
  • As far as I know, there are no characters that have giant shuriken boomerangs, Turn into a fish like blade, turn into a golden bracket, have a chain grab that is also a spin throw, have a sheild that breaks into damaging particles, clones explosive imposters of themselves, have heat vision, or or shock waves. So the generic part is bull ****. As if a giant hand, Ape that punches, and guy with cape and sword wasn't generic.
  • Sakurai usually doesn't care if you don't like a character. Especially if he thinks it's a good addition he can make work.
  • I've had way more positive feedback for Tabuu from both this site and Smashboards. Like maybe 12 people. As appose to maybe 4 here. So the claim that Literally NOBODY thinks Tabuu is a good idea or even likes him. is bull ****
  • Last time I checked Super Smash Brothers was a way more popular IP than Mole Mania, and more people knew about Tabuu before Muddy Mole. So in my opinion, saying Muddy Mole is more popular and important is bull ****. And the Miyamoto argument is a bad arguments considering Sakurai invented Tabuu and he's the one working on the game. Also the request thing is bull **** as that does not define importance or likeliness.
If you disagree or personally just hate Tabuu. Fine. I personally don't see why a naked old mand made out of cyber cells with all the above abilities mentioned is generic or why this is the only character seen as generic despite the love for Master Hand.

But, what's important and what I care is that while you people laugh, facepalm, and roll your eyes at me, more people are actually agreeing with me and are rather fond of the idea. I don't want to waste my time arguing with haters or people who are just biased so that's all I'm gonna say.
Well this about Nintendo characters who we actually want playable, not Smash original characters. :9
 

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Popularity=\= notability.

Just because people play Brawl and enjoy Brawl doesn't mean they like Tabuu. Also, 4-5 people doesn't make him popular.

The statement should have been "most people don't like him". But again, just because even 10 people inbox you, it doesn't mean it's the greatest idea ever or that's uber popular.
Nor does 4 people inboxing me make it a bad idea. And fyi, Wii Fit Trainer wasn't popular and requested.

Thinking that Tabuu has ANY sort of merit is facepalm worthy.
And that was not only facepalm worthy, but laugh worthy. Alright, well just go ahead and be blatantly ignorant and bias then. I'll be over here not caring and listening to people who actually agree with my choice.
 

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Practically anybody who's played Brawl or is a big Smash fan knows who Tabuu is. So saying he's not popular is bull ****]
Popular =/= Well known. Popular = Well liked.

Everyone knows who Hitler is. He ain't popular.
I've had way more positive feedback for Tabuu from both this site and Smashboards. Like maybe 12 people. As appose to maybe 4 here. So the claim that Literally NOBODY thinks Tabuu is a good idea or even likes him. is bull ****]
Literally? That's false. You thought of him. So it can't be literal.

But his support is abysmal....

12 people is not impressive in the slightest...
 

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Just because people know who Tabuu is, that doesn't mean he's popular.

That's like saying because everybody knows who Adolf Hitler was means that everyone who knows of him likes him. That is a crock of horse ****.

Edit: Swamp ninja'd my Hitler example...great minds think alike
 

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You can have opinion and still state it smart alecky and have it completley prejudice based. And Tabuu's popularity is not opinion. Pretty much anyone who's played Brawl or is a Smash fan knows who he is.
just because someone knows who he is, does not equal popularity mate, I was asking for proof that he is wanted and is popular
Then you're clearly being ignorant because that is not what I heard from like 4-5 people when I posted the roster. Along with the people from IGN. So maybe you should start using facts to prove your point that Tabuu isn't important instead of your biased unorganized BS
well looking back at the people who commented on tabuu, 3 people talked about him, two talked about his chances, and one said that she hated him (not certain, I don't think morbid was specific) nothing said that anyone liked him, and your using IGN as an example, that's just low mate, they have some bad predictions, some that I have heard people say that they are worse than miiverse and youtube, use a more reliable fanbase, thank you
If you disagree fine. But, use facts to defend your side. Again, while you and Oppossum are saying nobody thinks it's a good choice I've gotten like 10 Inbox Alerts of people who are on par with the idea.
wow congratulations, 10 likes for a character, you know k. rool and ridley gets that too, along with Isaac and shulk, oh and even grovile and adam can get that too, oh along with master hand and sandbag too, any character can get a like mate, that does not prove popularity
Tabuu is about as popular as Brawl. I don't need a source for that. If you don't like him fine. But that doesn't make him worthless. He's 10x more important and well known than Muddy Mole is.
yes you do, only evidence works here mate, nothing else, and while he might matter more in smash, overall he is very low to Nintendo as an whole, while muddy mole might not be well known, is a hidden gem to Nintendo's collection that alone makes him matter more than a generic super boss in the world of Nintendo,

now I ultimately request factual proof from you here and now Saturn, instead of using your own biased opinions and likes from others on this board, I want factual existence of evidence, how he is not generic, how he matters to Nintendo, how he is unique, and he is popular, if you can not show me evidence then you are going on nothing but baseless statements,
show me wrong Saturn, right here and now
 

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I like how everyone used Hitler as their example.
 

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Stalin was worse. He killed and oppressed far more people, indiscriminate of religion or race.
That being said, I like Tabuu because he expanded upon the ability of bad fanfic writers like myself to have a stock badguy and badguy army.
 

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Stalin was worse. He killed and oppressed far more people, indiscriminate of religion or race.
That being said, I like Tabuu because he expanded upon the ability of bad fanfic writers like myself to have a stock badguy and badguy army.
Vlad The Impaler was the inspiration for the gruesome version of Dracula.

Nuff said.
 

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now I ultimately request factual proof from you here and now Saturn, instead of using your own biased opinions and likes from others on this board, I want factual existence of evidence, how he is not generic, how he matters to Nintendo, how he is unique, and he is popular, if you can show me evidence then you are going on nothing but baseless statements,
show me wrong Saturn, right here and now
WOW! How ironic when you've done nothing but spew out bias opinion to back up your baseless argument. I actually just made a post proving that Tabuu is not generic. I told you he matters to Nintendo because he was a major villian in Super Smash Brothers Brawl which is one of the highest regarded Nintendo games regardless of whether you like him or not. You can hate King K. Rool, but that doesn't make him not important to Donkey Kong series.

So far your argument has basically been that some people don't like Tabuu or think he's dumb. That's a weak argument to say someone isn't gonna be playable.
 

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I think the best thing how SSE is going to be represented is through trophies and have the Primid be a trophy as a reminder of the story mode,
I wouldn't mind the Primid being used for some random game mode either. Dunno how it would work though.
 

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I wouldn't mind the Primid being used for some random game mode either. Dunno how it would work though.
Break the primids? Board the primids? Race to the primid?

Maybe they could be the opponents in Multi-Man mode.
 

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Break the primids? Board the primids? Race to the primid?

Maybe they could be the opponents in Multi-Man mode.
Yeah, they could work in Multi-Man. Although Race to the Primid makes me want a Race with the Primid mode. :laugh:
 

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Saturn, you should go back to supporting Vaati and we'll all forget about when you supported Tabuu, doesn't that sound like fair trade?
It's actually more on my side! *Evil laughter*
 

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Saturn's new topic is Tabuu? That's impressive, to say the least. Eh, stupid idea, but could end up heavily praised if done right. His moveset would be awesome. I'd just be a little urked that a Smash Bros. original character got in.
 
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