Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[A Distant Demon]

I am most likely the only person wishing for SSB Switch not to come any time soon

Nope

I am hoping for a full on sequel and not any kind of port, so if the game comes out later that increases my chance dramatically

 

[ErenJager]

Ideally for me, although unrealistic, my hope is that there's a port similar to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe announced for 2017, with more updates/ attention given to it than Mario Kart. If it will happen, I think it'll get announced at E3.

Umm, then maybe closer to the end of the Switch's life maybe a new Smash game is released, with a port to the next console after the Switch... Or what they could do is just continue with DLC being added to the Smash Port to further distinguish itself from Smash 4.

Personally I hope Smash Switch gives us an adventure mode, I don't care if it's like Melee's or Brawls, or some where in between.
Each character gets their own break the targets and board the platforms.
And a Smash mode that's like "new stock = new character"
I want them to port over all the DS stages and maybe bring back a few more favorites from Brawl, Melee & N64.

As for characters I personally would be content with one, although I would love far more.
That one character would be Ice Climbers.

If they do add more then one, my favorites would be Bomberman, Geno, and King K. Rool.

There's certainly a bunch of vet's deserving to make a come back too.

Basically far too many deserving characters to say which ones should or are likely to get in, if any.

Wild, straw grasping on my part here though... but Bomberman as a launch title for Switch... just saiyan... that Konami representation to add to the list of major Japanese game developers with a character...

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I wonder if anyone else has gotten down that the Nintendo Switch can potentially utilize the Smash Run game mode. However, the only problem is that you would need multiple Nintendo Switch sets to do multiplayer matches.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I wonder if anyone else has gotten down that the Nintendo Switch can potentially utilize the Smash Run game mode. However, the only problem is that you would need multiple Nintendo Switch sets to do multiplayer matches.

Or just make it an online feature as well. Both are applicable.

 

[Opossum]

I wonder if anyone else has gotten down that the Nintendo Switch can potentially utilize the Smash Run game mode. However, the only problem is that you would need multiple Nintendo Switch sets to do multiplayer matches.

I mean, that's kind of a non-issue. We know the Switch is capable of that since we saw it in the presentation with Splatoon 2.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I mean, that's kind of a non-issue. We know the Switch is capable of that since we saw it in the presentation with Splatoon 2.

The system itself costs around $300 though, so getting four for a 4-player Smash Run would be very costly.

 

[Opossum]

The system itself costs around $300 though, so getting four for a 4-player Smash Run would be very costly.

But that wouldn't be a factor against putting Smash Run in the port. Price wouldn't be something the devs would think about.


I just don't see the big issue. The only group even really affected by that would be families would want to play against each other.

 

[Lola Luftnagle]

No Smash announced for Switch yet? Pity....maybe within three years from now. Until then, I'm more interested in when they'll release the amiibo.

Just a few things I envision:

• Bring all the characters to feature in a Smash game together similar to Tekken Tag Tournament 2. I know how some of y'all miss , et cetera.
• I want to see L-cancelling back. Ever since Brawl, aerial fighting now has lots of risk involved.
• The challenges were cloying in Wii U Smash; ****, I'm lucky to have completed half of the board. I do agree that the cloying difficulty on challenges should be brought down a few notches. Same goes for the event matches.
• The ability to save VS. mode settings, not just item switch preferences.

With that said, I'm pretty confident then new Smash will have functionality no different from the home console. 'Tis sad, though that it won't support Gamecube controllers. I hear it will support wireless pro controllers (the Switch I mean) but they cost more than three amiibos. No matter; those controllers will be the next best thing for me.

I'll continue praying for that upcoming Smash...

 

[Spurdo]

Remove s from Smash, please. It's allowing people to recreate people they ain't supposed to. Besides, all of us wanted our dream characters to be in smash 4, not some crude-*** likenesses in s. Sorry if that came off as harsh but it just ain't the same.

what kind of reasoning is this

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

what kind of reasoning is this

If I had to guess, I'd say bias.

 

[Reality_Ciak]

The MK8 Deluxe character roster demoed was lacking Miis, granted that may not be a final build, but could the Switch as a whole be doing away with Miis? Miiverse isn't going to be on the Switch, or at least I think I heard that. So, I see potential of them being cut, but that'd be a shame and a waste if you ask me.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

The MK8 Deluxe character roster demoed was lacking Miis, granted that may not be a final build, but could the Switch as a whole be doing away with Miis? Miiverse isn't going to be on the Switch, or at least I think I heard that. So, I see potential of them being cut, but that'd be a shame and a waste if you ask me.

Honestly, i can't see Nintendo cutting the Mii fighters off a future Smash title's roster. It already feels like a tradition to have them in.

 

[Zerp]

The MK8 Deluxe character roster demoed was lacking Miis, granted that may not be a final build, but could the Switch as a whole be doing away with Miis?

Nope, we know they still exist.

Spoiler: Miis

 

[Reality_Ciak]

Nope, we know they still exist.

Spoiler: Miis

Well that's a relief. So yeah, no real reason to think they'd be cut then.

Edit: As far as newcomers go, I'm expecting Ice Climbers and Inklings, suspecting Decidueye and perhaps Ganon or someone from BotW, hoping for DK and Metroid reps, and not even thinking about third party.

 

[dezeray112]

Even though there is still another 5 months until E3 approaches.

As for newcomer characters, I predict Ice Climbers, Wolf, Inklings and maybe Decidueye are candidates.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I bet Wolf and Ice Climbers will be back, but for newcomers, I'd predict someone from Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Elma, Alm, Inklings, Viridi, and Bandana Dee. Until we get more games confirmed, that's all I predict.

 

[Lola Luftnagle]

Boy, am I slow... I'm back to take back the **** I said about s earlier. I was in a very bad mood, but I won't bore y'all with that.

I just wish I can recreate my dream characters for Smash 4 perfectly, but close enough will have to be good enough, I suppose.

Anyways, these last few posts really spoke to me. It wouldn't be right to remove them.

Right...with that said, I'd like to see the return of Board the
Platforms and Target Smash. I also want to see a Tekken character be in there, I don't care who it is.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

In all honestly, it's too early for any Arms character to join Smash.

A trophy or AT on the other hand would be nice.

 

[Hypercat-Z]

QUOTE="_Sheik, post: 21623303, member: 241990"]Gotcha.

I -may- get a bit of hate for this, but I am most likely the only person wishing for SSB Switch not to come any time soon (as in not before 2019 at least). [/QUOTE]
I concur. I prefer them take their time a make a more fresh game rather than a Super Smash Bros. 4 Deluxe.
I'd also like it featuring something of the new games such as Arms and Splatoon 2, which would be enough to keep us busy till the launch of Super Smash Bros. Switch.
Or, how it might be called, Super Smash Bros. 2020

 

[Opossum]

In all honestly, it's too early for any Arms character to join Smash.

A trophy or AT on the other hand would be nice.

For a port, yeah.

But for a full-on new Smash, I'd argue it'd be a possibility, since that's likely several years away from starting development.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Part of me kind of wonder what Wolf's attributes could be like if he ever returned. I had some thoughts about that...

• Walk Initial Velocity: 0.2
• Walk Acceleration: 0.1
• Walk Speed: 1.43
• Traction: 0.07
• Dash Initial Velocity: 1.6
• Dash Acceleration 1: 0.12
• Dash Acceleration 2: 0.04
• Run Speed: 1.72
• Jump Height: 35
• Hop Height: 17
• Air Jump Height: 35
• Air Acceleration: 0.08
• Air Deceleration: 0.01
• Air Speed: 1.24
• Air Friction: 0.01
• Gravity: 0.13
• Falling Speed: 2
• Gravity 2: 0.01
• Fast-Falling Speed: 2.8
• Weight: 102

 

[ErenJager]

I feel like sharing my top 5 character additions to Smash Switch. I guess it's a mesh of a prediction list and want list.

1) Ice Climbers
They were removed from the Wii U version to maintain roster consistency between the Wii U and 3DS version. With a new console with a portable feature, perhaps the unused componets will be made usable and transfered over to the Switch version. I'm also hoping the Switch is an anmalgonmation of the Wii U and 3DS versions. Almost like a definitive version.

2) Inkling
The huge success of Splatoon and the fact Splatoon 2 will be launching later this year. It wouldn't surprise me if this character was added to Smash Switch to further push this new strong IP. There's also a lot of popularity among these characters in the Nintendo community.

3) Bomberman
This is probably more of a personal want then a predictable character. However I think there's a little to consider. Firstly Nintendo has loved surprising Smash fans with third parties. Ryu, Cloud and Bayo were huge. If you look at the third party playable characters they are all from major Japanese companies. One the last Japanese companies to be included is Konami. So if you couple that with the fact Bomberman is a launch title for the Switch and its the 33rd anniversary celebration (sorta random) but yeah, I see some straws that might be worth grasping at. In the very least Konami and Nintendo working together is a good sign for Snake fans.

4) King K. Rool
I'm a dreamer. I love this character. Apart of me wants to believe certain Mii costumes were like a hint from Sakurai that in a perfect world those characters would have been playable. I think of Inklings this way too. Characters like Lloyd and Geno are like runner ups for a second Namco and Square rep. Widely popular and wanted character, we need more villains we need more DK reps. What else can I say?

5) Geno
Purely makes #5 based on my own bias. I want him as a second Square rep. I want that music and stage for him as well. He's just the ultimate underdog pipe dream character that would be amazing if he got into Smash. The only straws I have to grasp for this one are... He got a Mii costume and Sega and Capcom both got 2 characters. Maybe Square can get one.

Special Honorable Mentions:
Vetran Characters, mainly Wolf.

 

[Aurane]

Would rather they take their time with a new game rather then re-release an older game but whateves. I don't play Smash anymore- I just want some sick renders.

 

[Deleted member]

In all honestly, it's too early for any Arms character to join Smash.

A trophy or AT on the other hand would be nice.

Agreed.

Whenever a new game is announced, people always jump for that game's character to be in Smash.

While admittedly, I could see Spring Man be considered for a future Smash release, it won't be until quite some time after ARMS is released.

 

[N3ON]

I think it's pretty contingent on how the game performs. If it does well enough that a sequel seems plausible then an inclusion also seems plausible.

Until then it's just putting the cart before the horse as usual. Not just in whether we'll get an ARMS character, but whether ARMS itself will even be a success.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Smash Wii U does have an "Other" trophy category for miscellaneous characters and items. ARMS's best bet of any Smash Bros. representation will probably be limited to just trophy cameos, if not Assist Trophies.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I kinda have to agree that getting a newcomer from ARMS as soon as Smash 5 is a bit of a stretch.

If ARMS ends up getting a newcomer in Smash 5, that's okay with me, but I feel like they would have to had thought ahead like Sakurai did with Greninja. (Not 100% sure if the last part is true, I can't find a source that looks legit enough)

 

[N3ON]

Well, for the Smash port, I think it's pretty much out of the question. If they have new ATs then maybe ARMS could get some representation there... but I don't think that's the kind of thing they'll add in the port. Other than that... maybe a trophy. Again, if they add new ones.

For Smash 5, the proper sequel, that I could see ARMS theoretically getting representation if 1) Smash 5 enters development after the commercial reception to ARMS has been observed and 2) if that commercial reception is notably above average.

The bar may continually be getting lower for inclusion but just because a series exists as an EPD IP with feasible, unique characters, doesn't mean they're automatically primed for admittance.

 

[SkywardStriker16]

I'm pretty sure I had a dream last night where they announced ten newcomers from Smash Switch.

Seriously. Ten. It's obviously not going to happen, but it was still a heck of a dream.
Not to mention six of them were Pokemon newcomers. Which we really don't need. We really, REALLY, don't need.

Hawlucha would be an excellent addition, still.

 

[Delzethin]

Not to mention six of them were Pokemon newcomers. Which we really don't need. We really, REALLY, don't need.

While I wouldn't say six, the series could manage two or even three without wearing out its welcome if the newcomers in question were chosen well. An RPG franchise with a rotating cast and 800-plus characters gives us more to work with than any other series, and many of said characters learn a long list of moves and pull from elements that are rare to nonexistent on the current roster. Not to say they have to, say, add a Grass type or a Rock or Ground type to plug those gaps in plant- and earth-based powers, but what it does mean is that characters who specialize in those powers would be that much more unique because those niches are wide open.

Remember, where a character hails from is less important than what they can do. That's how Sakurai and his team look at it.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Not to say they have to, say, add a Grass type or a Rock or Ground type to plug those gaps in plant- and earth-based powers, but what it does mean is that characters who specialize in those powers would be that much more unique because those niches are wide open.

Personally, as far as the Earth-based niche is concerned, I'd rather have Isaac.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

I kinda have to agree that getting a newcomer from ARMS as soon as Smash 5 is a bit of a stretch.

So Spring Man confirmed?

Sorry for double post, but I should also point out that if we're getting a 7th generation Pokemon in Smash, it can only be one:

Spoiler

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Sorry for double post, but I should also point out that if we're getting a 7th generation Pokemon in Smash, it can only be one:

Spoiler

Oh hell yes!

#TeamLitten for the win.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Sorry for double post, but I should also point out that if we're getting a 7th generation Pokemon in Smash, it can only be one:

Spoiler

I'd actually be okay wit him this. I picked Litten in Sun, so BRING ON THE HEAT!!!!!

So Spring Man confirmed?

But again, I said I'd be okay if ARMS does get a playable character, I just don't really expect it as early as Smash 5.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Sorry for double post, but I should also point out that if we're getting a 7th generation Pokemon in Smash, it can only be one:

Spoiler

I'd have to say no. Hardly any of the 7th generation Pokemon are who I would consider to be viable for the playable status. They could get the Poke Ball treatment though.

Also, remember that the 3rd and 5th generations don't have any playable representatives.

 

[Opossum]

I'm still rooting for Decidueye for Smash.

I've always wanted a full archer character instead of having Link or Pit fire an arrow for all of one move. Add in that it's a Pokémon, and a Ghost-type owl, at that, and I love the concept even more.

It's just a shame so many are quick to call "bandwagon" on it. At least it has something actually interesting about it...Sceptile didn't have anything like that, in my eyes. Just another speedy rush down character. But an archer based move set is something Smash hasn't seen yet.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

I'd have to say no. Hardly any of the 7th generation Pokemon are who I would consider to be viable for the playable status. They could get the Poke Ball treatment though.

Also, remember that the 3rd and 5th generations don't have any playable representatives.

Yes, well, Smash 4 has taught me that no one really knows anything about what they are wanting to do. I just personally think he'd fit in incredibly well, since he is literally built to be a fighter. And well, I love Litten's line, so I have bias, which is even better than evidence.

Plus if I had to wager, I'd say a Pokemon from a new, shiny generation is more likely than a 3rd or 5th generation character--particularly because Sakurai doesn't seem to care about representation.

I'm still rooting for Decidueye for Smash.

I've always wanted a full archer character instead of having Link or Pit fire an arrow for all of one move. Add in that it's a Pokémon, and a Ghost-type owl, at that, and I love the concept even more.

It's just a shame so many are quick to call "bandwagon" on it. At least it has something actually interesting about it...Sceptile didn't have anything like that, in my eyes. Just another speedy rush down character. But an archer based move set is something Smash hasn't seen yet.

Decidueye is also among my favorites, so I'd also enjoy that addition as well. Spirit Shackles could be a shot that goes out and then turns back around and then traps the opponent into one spot for a duration based on % (and they can still use inputs, as in they can still "battle" but not "flee").

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

The funny thing is, Blaziken is built to be a fighter as well, but it only got a trophy cameo in Brawl, while Torchic is a Poke Ball Pokemon. Additionally, Blaziken only appears as part of the Kalos Pokémon League stage in Smash Wii U.

 

[Reality_Ciak]

I still want Sceptile... but I also expect that if we were to get a Pokemon newcomer, in a Smash 4 Switch port, we'd probably get a gen7 Pokemon to promote Sun & Moon and whatever Pokemon game is being developed for the Switch.

So I'll be joining the Decidueye "bandwagon", but I would probably laugh myself to death if we got a Pokemon newcomer reveal trailer, and they show a character everyone expects, like one of the starters, then the sky opens up and Buzzwole crashes down and beats the living heck out of them.

 

[SkywardStriker16]

So Spring Man confirmed?

I definitely remember Spring Man being in my dream...so yes. Maybe.
He would definitely be a good fit for Smash. Actually, any of the ARMS characters would.
I'm not ruling any ARMS reps out, actually, because their inclusion would almost certainly popularize ARMS, and likely boost sales. Remember that Corrin came out in the U.S. around the time FE Fates came out to promote the game, Greninja was announced six months after X/Y, and Roy came out some time before his game was released, so it's certainly very possible that any one of the "ARMS" could grab a spot.
Oh yeah. And Inklings too. And maybe Bomberman?
...please...