Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[RWyvern]

I can’t hope to arrange my most-wanted tracks so I’ll just list some general series.

Pokken Tournament’s ost got shafted, that’s terrible.
Mystery Dungeon, ignored once more.
Out of all the Monster Hunter tracks, we didn’t even get the best ones. Even the Frontier games have a stellar soundtrack.
Wonderful 101 needs more than a couple of tracks.
Wario’s victory theme isn’t the WarioWorld pause music.

Etc. Honestly, I’m just hanging out for when I can mod my own soundtrack in, just like I did with 4.

 

[DevaAshera]

I'm very surprised there's not a good resource to view images of the weapons in Persona 5..I'm trying to see if there's a less real looking gun for Joker but I can't find images for the two most likely to have such..the handguns 'God of Destruction' and 'God of a Thousand Demons'..

 

[Ultomato]

I can’t hope to arrange my most-wanted tracks so I’ll just list some general series.

Pokken Tournament’s ost got shafted, that’s terrible.
Mystery Dungeon, ignored once more.
Out of all the Monster Hunter tracks, we didn’t even get the best ones. Even the Frontier games have a stellar soundtrack.
Wonderful 101 needs more than a couple of tracks.
Wario’s victory theme isn’t the WarioWorld pause music.

Etc. Honestly, I’m just hanging out for when I can mod my own soundtrack in, just like I did with 4.

I really wanted to mod but I'm scared of wrecking my WiiU/Wii.

Farewell, Temporal Tower over Spear Pillar

 

[Iridium]

Why does Young Link's blue alt seem to resemble Link? At least the colored legs appear to resemble Link's trousers, and then the shade of blue on his tunic almost matches.

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

So I was bored (waiting in the lab for my measurements to finish) so I decided to start a little thing.

You see, everyone keeps asking for peoples top-5 characters for smash, but there is a much more important question:
The top-5 SONGS that should be in smash.

For me, it goes a bit like this:

1. Dialga's Fight to the Finish (PMD2) https://youtu.be/wy9VvdaLuSs

2. Battle!! (Torna: the Golden Country) https://youtu.be/uRtAbX2-f3A

3. Rundas Battle (Metroid Prime 3) https://youtu.be/6nMFLquJeCc

4. Ghost Fight (Undertale) https://youtu.be/Zz1bfhtKsHM

5. VS Joe (Pokémon Battle Revolution) https://youtu.be/yp5XpFJHqzU

(6. Mt. Pyre peak, Pokémon Emerald, https://youtu.be/TEtlhq1PxI4)

Top 5 most wanted songs, eh?
1: Battle! Guzma (Sun and Moon) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REC7daXbjho
2: Counterattack (Xenoblade 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6TLtJ4epT0
3: Isaac's Battle Theme (Golden Sun) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb_zLitqH1o
4: Reach out to the Truth (Persona 4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu1LCUJMnF0
5: That Person's Name is... (Bravely Default) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-9ihcy2R8

 

[RyuhoFox]

That's why the Classic Sonic games are better. They don't care about plot, only about being a fun experience. I wish the Classic Sonic series continues alongside the Modern one these years. At least that way I'll have something nice to play to forget about the disappointments of the Modern games.

I wouldn't say they didn't care about plot so much as plot wasn't a significant point for most games that didn't entirely focus on it at that point in time.

Also on the topic of DMC I can see no one but Dante happening. He's too iconic to the series to not be repped. His handguns can probably be explained away as being magic to skirt around that issue(which tmk isn't far off considering from what I remember the guns are normal but he kind of uses them as a conduit for his demon energy which explains the infinite ammo and charge shots)

 

[Cristaran]

So I was bored (waiting in the lab for my measurements to finish) so I decided to start a little thing.

You see, everyone keeps asking for peoples top-5 characters for smash, but there is a much more important question:
The top-5 SONGS that should be in smash.

For me, it goes a bit like this:

1. Dialga's Fight to the Finish (PMD2) https://youtu.be/wy9VvdaLuSs

2. Battle!! (Torna: the Golden Country) https://youtu.be/uRtAbX2-f3A

3. Rundas Battle (Metroid Prime 3) https://youtu.be/6nMFLquJeCc

4. Ghost Fight (Undertale) https://youtu.be/Zz1bfhtKsHM

5. VS Joe (Pokémon Battle Revolution) https://youtu.be/yp5XpFJHqzU

(6. Mt. Pyre peak, Pokémon Emerald, https://youtu.be/TEtlhq1PxI4)

Well, if its any song, i need...

1-Hidden Star in All Seasons (Im going for this one for now, too many 2hus to add)
2-Rivers in the desert
3-BAZELGEUSE
4-Will be Venus
5-Devil Trigger

Also, they missed a huge opportunity to add this one

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

So I was bored (waiting in the lab for my measurements to finish) so I decided to start a little thing.

You see, everyone keeps asking for peoples top-5 characters for smash, but there is a much more important question:
The top-5 SONGS that should be in smash.

For me, it goes a bit like this:

1. Dialga's Fight to the Finish (PMD2) https://youtu.be/wy9VvdaLuSs

2. Battle!! (Torna: the Golden Country) https://youtu.be/uRtAbX2-f3A

3. Rundas Battle (Metroid Prime 3) https://youtu.be/6nMFLquJeCc

4. Ghost Fight (Undertale) https://youtu.be/Zz1bfhtKsHM

5. VS Joe (Pokémon Battle Revolution) https://youtu.be/yp5XpFJHqzU

(6. Mt. Pyre peak, Pokémon Emerald, https://youtu.be/TEtlhq1PxI4)

1. Last Surprise (Persona 5) https://youtu.be/UMEUxOEdiEo

2. Remix 4 (Rhythm Heaven Fever) https://youtu.be/-XWxoXdeSOU

3. DNA Lab: Helix's theme (ARMS) https://youtu.be/quPkXk51f3I

4. Crisis City: Act 1 (Sonic Generations) https://youtu.be/5fhgJrMWSxw

5. World Map (Rayman) https://youtu.be/qj9x5Rvv5UU

 

[Gyrom8]

So I was bored (waiting in the lab for my measurements to finish) so I decided to start a little thing.

You see, everyone keeps asking for peoples top-5 characters for smash, but there is a much more important question:
The top-5 SONGS that should be in smash.

For me, it goes a bit like this:

1. Dialga's Fight to the Finish (PMD2) https://youtu.be/wy9VvdaLuSs

2. Battle!! (Torna: the Golden Country) https://youtu.be/uRtAbX2-f3A

3. Rundas Battle (Metroid Prime 3) https://youtu.be/6nMFLquJeCc

4. Ghost Fight (Undertale) https://youtu.be/Zz1bfhtKsHM

5. VS Joe (Pokémon Battle Revolution) https://youtu.be/yp5XpFJHqzU

(6. Mt. Pyre peak, Pokémon Emerald, https://youtu.be/TEtlhq1PxI4)

Can't access YouTube right now to provide the links (but they're easy enough to look up and half of them are well-known anyways), but:

1. Vs. Red/Lance from Pokemon GSC. That brief appearance in the GSC medley is such a tease: we need hear it in it's entirety! As an aside, it'd be grand if we got all the champion themes in some form or another. We got 3,4,6 and 7 IIRC, but are still missing 1, 2 and 5.
2. The Ultimate Show from Super Paper Mario. There are too many Paper Mario tracks I'd like in Smash to count. But if I was forced to choose one, this'd be it.
3. Porky Means Business. I have never played Earthbound but this is one of those tracks that's iconic enough that it's just gotta be in.
4. Vs. Baby Bowser (Yoshi's Island). Again, never played the game. Again, it's too iconic to miss. Again, that small reference it currently gets in one of the tracks just won't do it.
5. Miror B's Retro Groove from Pokemon Colosseum. There's a lot of music from the Pokemon spinoffs that I'd love to see in Smash. But this one takes the cake.

 

[osby]

Also on the topic of DMC I can see no one but Dante happening. He's too iconic to the series to not be repped. His handguns can probably be explained away as being magic to skirt around that issue(which tmk isn't far off considering from what I remember the guns are normal but he kind of uses them as a conduit for his demon energy which explains the infinite ammo and charge shots)

I doubt "here's a handgun but don't worry, it writes they're magical in the tips" would affect the rating if they look like/are real guns.

Maybe they can tweak the design a bit or pull a Snake and have Dante use his other weapons.

 

[Ultomato]

Well, if its any song, i need...

1-Hidden Star in All Seasons (Im going for this one for now, too many 2hus to add)
2-Rivers in the desert
3-BAZELGEUSE
4-Will be Venus
5-Devil Trigger

Also, they missed a huge opportunity to add this one

I fell for it. Well played, good sir.

 

[Gentlepanda]

5: That Person's Name is... (Bravely Default) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-9ihcy2R8

choo choo, best standard boss theme in any jrpg ever coming through

 

[Ultomato]

1. Last Surprise (Persona 5) https://youtu.be/UMEUxOEdiEo

2. Remix 4 (Rhythm Heaven Fever) https://youtu.be/-XWxoXdeSOU

3. DNA Lab: Helix's theme (ARMS) https://youtu.be/quPkXk51f3I

4. Crisis City: Act 1 (Sonic Generations) https://youtu.be/5fhgJrMWSxw

5. World Map (Rayman) https://youtu.be/qj9x5Rvv5UU

Last Surprise would have been on mine, but it's basically in.

But... Thank you for reminding me of ma boi
The Wacky Wavin Arms Flailing Inflatable Tube Man

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Last Surprise would have been on mine, but it's basically in.

Not necessarily...

Sakurai recently said that he wasn't sure if it could work as a Smash Bros battle theme...

If we're getting any version of it, we're likely getting a lesser instrumental version

 

[Gentlepanda]

Not necessarily...

Sakurai recently said that he wasn't sure if it could work as a Smash Bros battle theme...

If we're getting any version of it, we're likely getting a lesser instrumental version

we're getting last surprise but the lyrics are a shrieky midi guitar

source: the last sega character to be added before joker

 

[Cristaran]

Not necessarily...

Sakurai recently said that he wasn't sure if it could work as a Smash Bros battle theme...

If we're getting any version of it, we're likely getting a lesser instrumental version

So, the Snake Eater treatment?

 

[osby]

Not necessarily...

Sakurai recently said that he wasn't sure if it could work as a Smash Bros battle theme...

If we're getting any version of it, we're likely getting a lesser instrumental version

So same with Bayonetta. Understandable, having to work with third party vocals might be a pain.

 

[Gentlepanda]

most likely scenario with Last Surprise tbh is that we get a slightly updated version of the pre-release instrumental

edit: oh it was actually updated for Q2 for no clear reason (other than that it was maybe possibly redone for smash)

 

[Cristaran]

most likely scenario with Last Surprise tbh is that we get a slightly updated version of the pre-release instrumental

Oh god.
YOU ARE SLAVE. WANT EMANCIPATION?

 

[Gentlepanda]

Oh god.
YOU ARE SLAVE. WANT EMANCIPATION?

*distant sounds of igor screaming rehabilitation*

 

[Deleted member]

Not necessarily...

Sakurai recently said that he wasn't sure if it could work as a Smash Bros battle theme...

If we're getting any version of it, we're likely getting a lesser instrumental version

But of course, he needs to make room for the most intense battle music ever

 

[Gentlepanda]

But of course, he needs to make room for the most intense battle music ever

joke's on you they removed this in 4 and Ultimate

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

But of course, he needs to make room for the most intense battle music ever

I believe you're mistaken,

Spoiler

 

[Gentlepanda]

I believe you're mistaken,

Spoiler

every stage needs a setting where there's just no music and it's weirdly realistic street noises or the hum of space

 

[Deleted member]

I believe you're mistaken,

Spoiler

God that song gets my blood PUMPING it's so intense

 

[Cristaran]

But of course, he needs to make room for the most intense battle music ever

I believe you're mistaken,

Spoiler

If this doesn´t get your blood boiling for battle, nothing will.

Edit, Greninja´d

 

[RyuhoFox]

I doubt "here's a handgun but don't worry, it writes they're magical in the tips" would affect the rating if they look like/are real guns.

Maybe they can tweak the design a bit or pull a Snake and have Dante use his other weapons.

That presents a big problem as Ebony and Ivory are kind of important to Dante as a character and iconic to his kit. It's not like Snake where he doesn't really focus on a single type of gun or guns in general meaning they can be altered or changed out to a degree while retaining his focus as a character. Dante's twin pistols are one of his more iconic traits so using something else while accurate would lose quite a lot for his character(its iconic to the character so much that missions generally transition to the results screen through the screen being blasted multiple times by them). Taking away Dante's pistols would be like taking away Bayonetta's Wicked Weaves.

If realistic guns are indeed still an issue to that degree a redesign is the only real option at that point. It's just how could they be redesigned that would present the issue and if Capcom would be willing to budge on that to begin with.

 

[Gentlepanda]

environmental noises as a battle theme: i sleep
shrine maiden's prayer as a battle theme: REAL ****

 

[Cristaran]

environmental noises as a battle theme: i sleep
shrine maiden's prayer as a battle theme: REAL ****

DID SOMEBODY SAY SHRINE MAIDEN?

 

[Ultomato]

we're getting last surprise but the lyrics are a shrieky midi guitar

source: the last sega character to be added before joker

I would actually love to have a proper instrumental version (as a jazz fan, I never really understand why good songs with lyrics are always so much more popular than good songs with instrumental quality) but rust weird guitar sound they use to mimic the singer in many songs is just... Sad

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

So I was bored (waiting in the lab for my measurements to finish) so I decided to start a little thing.

You see, everyone keeps asking for peoples top-5 characters for smash, but there is a much more important question:
The top-5 SONGS that should be in smash.

For me, it goes a bit like this:

1. Dialga's Fight to the Finish (PMD2) https://youtu.be/wy9VvdaLuSs

2. Battle!! (Torna: the Golden Country) https://youtu.be/uRtAbX2-f3A

3. Rundas Battle (Metroid Prime 3) https://youtu.be/6nMFLquJeCc

4. Ghost Fight (Undertale) https://youtu.be/Zz1bfhtKsHM

5. VS Joe (Pokémon Battle Revolution) https://youtu.be/yp5XpFJHqzU

(6. Mt. Pyre peak, Pokémon Emerald, https://youtu.be/TEtlhq1PxI4)

All of them are in the link below and they are growing...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgu3SkCTCd6VVVfch9XPQP5mxHeKSHoHS

Oh, you only said 5?

Then...

1) One-Winged Angel (FF7)
2) Rundas Battle (MP3)
3) Uncontrollable (XBC - not yet featured)
4) The Devoted (Fire Emblem Fates)
5) Overpass (SFV)

 

[Ultomato]

I believe you're mistaken,

Spoiler

I was gonna say the same thing

 

[Gyrom8]

Can't access YouTube right now to provide the links (but they're easy enough to look up and half of them are well-known anyways), but:

1. Vs. Red/Lance from Pokemon GSC. That brief appearance in the GSC medley is such a tease: we need hear it in it's entirety! As an aside, it'd be grand if we got all the champion themes in some form or another. We got 3,4,6 and 7 IIRC, but are still missing 1, 2 and 5.
2. The Ultimate Show from Super Paper Mario. There are too many Paper Mario tracks I'd like in Smash to count. But if I was forced to choose one, this'd be it.
3. Porky Means Business. I have never played Earthbound but this is one of those tracks that's iconic enough that it's just gotta be in.
4. Vs. Baby Bowser (Yoshi's Island). Again, never played the game. Again, it's too iconic to miss. Again, that small reference it currently gets in one of the tracks just won't do it.
5. Miror B's Retro Groove from Pokemon Colosseum. There's a lot of music from the Pokemon spinoffs that I'd love to see in Smash. But this one takes the cake.

How the **** did I forget WING DING from DKC Tropical Freeze. Make that number 5 instead.

 

[Ultomato]

All of them are in the link below and they are growing...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgu3SkCTCd6VVVfch9XPQP5mxHeKSHoHS

Oh, you only said 5?

Then...

1) One-Winged Angel (FF7)
2) Rundas Battle (MP3)
3) Uncontrollable (XBC - not yet featured)
4) The Devoted (Fire Emblem Fates)
5) Overpass (SFV)

Honestly adding Dark Sams was the perfect oppertunity to add more Prime music but they didn't listen.
Aside from Rundas, either of the Dark Samus themes or Quadraxis would have been so good

 

[Gentlepanda]

also if i'm gonna do a top wanted music track for each of my five signature characters:

• Joker - Life Will Change is 100% in in some form or another, so i'm gonna say that if we don't get Layer Cake there'll be hell to pay
• Bravely - That Person's Name Is is maybe my top video game track period
• Steve - err
• Solaire - hit me with that Ornstein and Smough
• Doomguy - Lazarus Combat all the way

 

[Cristaran]

Joker - Life Will Change is 100% in in some form or another, so i'm gonna say that if we don't get Layer Cake there'll be hell to pay

"Sounds good!"

 

[Gentlepanda]

"Sounds good!"

Sakurai: "You should be grateful."

 

[Deleted member]

Isabelle X Pikachu Libre is the OTP
I will stand behind my furry lesbian ship until the day I die

 

[Ultomato]

Sakurai: "You should be grateful."

"NEVER ASK ME FOR ANYTHING AGAIN"

 

[osby]

Bravely - That Person's Name Is is maybe my top video game track period

*not Serpent Eating Ground*

Still fine I guess (and by fine, I mean really freaking good).

every stage needs a setting where there's just no music and it's weirdly realistic street noises or the hum of space

I just want more songs unsuited for battle, so I can fight while Once We Part Ways plays in Gaur Plains.