Super Smash Bros Duel....

[firedragon_jing]

Ok, I have finally decided to do something productive with all the irritation I got from Brawl's final production... I'm going to step in and have a go at creating a similar game myself and see how it goes. Next semester, I'll be in my Game Design II class hopefully, and it's a class where you do nothing but create one game as a team of the entire class for the whole semester. I had decided to take on the head of production a while ago since the professor tries and makes it feel like a company environment, but now I know what game we'll make... if I can convince the class to go along with it, which I'm sure I could.


The game will be called Super Smash Bros Duel for the Nintendo DS, it will be a homebrew game, and will probably done with 2D models, might see if 3D models is plausible...

Now the game won't be our only priority during the semester, and we'll only have a semester to really complete it, and not two years exclusively so don't expect something on the level of a true Smash game, but I plan for it to be better than the PSP homebrew Smash game.

I plan to include around 40 characters, maybe 30 stages, plenty of items, some custom game modes, and the game will be able to connect to others and battle against. We'll probably include a classic mode, maybe an all-star mode, don't hold your breath for an adventure mode though. I might also put in an option to place in your own custom characters, stages, and music from your computer like you can on the PSP version, but I'll have to look into it.

More info will be provided when production starts...

As for now, feel free to suggest characters, stages, items, other ideas you would like to share, because unlike Sakurai, I will be building the game off of suggestions from the potential fans. I already have some very unique characters and stages in mind.

 

[Makai]

Before you start thinking about any characters, it's important that you get the engine set. If you try to do this in reverse, this game will never be finished.

 

[Neokun]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=115651

lol, i win

 

[_Slick_]

Well if you're actually going to do that, cool. Since I have an R4 it'll be possible for me to play. ^_^

 

[firedragon_jing]

Before you start thinking about any characters, it's important that you get the engine set. If you try to do this in reverse, this game will never be finished.

Yes I plan to start on that early in production... hopefully we'll have some strong programmers, or maybe I can source out for help if we don't...
The engine will be a base concern, but it will probably be a simple 2D fighter engine...

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=115651

lol, i win

LMAO, and I thought I was being clever... oh well, at least this one has the possibility of happening...

Well if you're actually going to do that, cool. Since I have an R4 it'll be possible for me to play. ^_^

Nice, I ordered an M3 DS Real for mine, but for anyone who wants to play this, but doesn't want to buy the "illegal" flash carts, Datel has a cheap one made for homebrew and media, so I want as many people to play this if I can set it up, and it turns out good

 

[antimatter]

*cough* genoandsyluxprettypleasewithaGenoBlastandaDelano7forfinalsmashesrespectivelyontop *cough* so, you'll be selling this? i'll try and get this if you're successful.

 

[WR3K]

i am taking game art and design as a program next year... and even now, i fear your inclusion into the indtstry

 

[-Linko-]

Sylux, Geno, Ridley, Midna+Wolf Link, Isaac, Plusle and Minum, and put Mewtwo in Lucario's place just for the f*ck of it.

 

[firedragon_jing]

*cough* genoandsyluxprettypleasewithaGenoBlastandaDelano7forfinalsmashesrespectivelyontop *cough* so, you'll be selling this? i'll try and get this if you're successful.

No, I will not be selling this, since the character will be copyrighted material, that I do not have the authority to sell. The game will be released for free, as a free traded homebrew game.

 

[Eldiran]

Best of luck! At first I was incredibly skeptical, but then I read that you'd have an entire class at your back, so it might actually be possible. As for requests and suggestions, all I can say, is please focus on balance. It would be a waste to create characters that are made worthless by imbalance (and would be very depressing for fans of those characters.)

Finally, I hope for your sake you've got some incredible graphical talent in that class. Creating 40 characters' worth of graphics even for a 2D fighting game in no small feat.

 

[Twilit]

Put in Ray 01 or Ray MK III as a character and I'm happy :D

And Zero >.>

 

[Rhambo]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=115651

lol, i win

lol it's a good idea though, I'm surprised Nintendo HASN'T done this yet




can you include bomberman? and shadow from Sonic
Mushroomy kingdom is a cool stage, if only it wasn't scrolling- make a stationary version of it.

 

[antimatter]

thank you for correcting me, firedragon, i misunderstood what you meant.

 

[Conan]

I would buy (YES I know it isn't being sold) the game for $60 if kamek was in it

 

[LouisLeGros]

I've got a M3 Adapter (Like the original SD one)

I would love to play it. If you put Alucard in it or gave me an options to make a super overpowered Alucard I would love you. The only reason he would be Overpowered is because he is bad ***... but he doesn't yell for twenty minutes and have 4 different animations in a fight with lots of glowing and spikey hair. He will just rip your throat out like it was nothing.

 

[Darkwolfg]

first off can you put in riku,sora,wolf link with midna,sephyroth and anyone from barton kaitos. and second i know this is randomn but can anyone tell me where a good game design collage is becaus i am having a TON of problems looking for them

 

[Rash]

Don't put in Geno, Ridley, or Krystal. That's just what people want. The best choices are the ones that surprise people.

 

[XACE-K]

Make Smarai Goroh, Ridley, Mewtwo, Isaa, and K.K. Slider characters and have a Bowser's Castle stage.

 

[LouisLeGros]

first off can you put in riku,sora,wolf link with midna,sephyroth and anyone from barton kaitos. and second i know this is randomn but can anyone tell me where a good game design collage is becaus i am having a TON of problems looking for them

Digipen


and we don't need the game filled with metro final fantasy characters

 

[antimatter]

Don't put in Geno, Ridley, or Krystal. That's just what people want. The best choices are the ones that surprise people.

so you want people to be disappointed AGAIN? plus, Geno's been requested since Melee. he had four votes on Sakurai's poll (five if you count the music request) and he STILL didnt get in!

 

[Darkwolfg]

Digipen


and we don't need the game filled with metro final fantasy characters

metro or not they still can have a very unique movset.oh and thanks for the help

 

[AJ-Lo]

Digipen


and we don't need the game filled with metro final fantasy characters

yeah, I agree. I myself am a big fan of FF but I also know that those characters don't belong in smash. The FF characters have way too many skills/techs/magic and you couldn't possibly fit them all in a smash characters moveset.

And too much fanservice is a bad thing... Really, final fantasy characters in a fighting game? that's what Mugen's for

 

[LouisLeGros]

metro or not they still can have a very unique movset.oh and thanks for the help

no problem

and I'm just sort of tired of how pretty much every final fantasy character is so popular and everyone wants them in the game. I'm tired of the pretty boys! The black wizard never gets any attention...


But then again I have similar sentiments towards a lot of things...

 

[Rash]

so you want people to be disappointed AGAIN? plus, Geno's been requested since Melee. he had four votes on Sakurai's poll (five if you count the music request) and he STILL didnt get in!

I like Geno too, but he has less relevance than any of the characters on Brawl's roster.

Characters need more than fan-favoritism to be good characters for a game like Smash Brothers. At least in the case for Krystal (who I supported over Wolf as the third Star Fox inclusion), she was a well-rounded supporting character who made perfect sense for the battlefield and also as a badly-needed new female character.

But, the constant talk of Ridley, Krystal, and Geno has just begun to tire me. It just seems like their time has passed; like, if there was any consideration for them to be put in a Smash Brothers game, it would've been made and acted upon already. Now it's time to look onto other characters who people don't actually know they want in the game yet.

 

[AJ-Lo]

Ridley seems too big to be playable... and there were some characters that were partially programmed but didn't make it, right? I'm curious about how Dixie Kong would've played

 

[Johnknight1]

Put in ONLY RANDOM AND OBSCURE CHARACTERS FOR THE EPIC MINDGAMEZ!

-Instead of Mario, Luigi, Booser, and Peach, have like Dry Bones, random Mario RPG characters, and characters we don't know like that. Like Croco, Flurry, Tippie (lolololol!), and so forth.

-Have Funky Kong, a random Bee, and/or Cranky Kong instead of other Donkey Kong characters.

-Have The Postman, random people from Zelda, and so forth instead of the usual.

-Put in Space Pirates, random enemies, and Metroids for Metroid characters.

-Put in the Pak E or whatever from Yoshi's Story instead of Yoshi!

-Have Waddle Dees, Gordos, and a average Meta-Knight for Kirby characters.

-Put in LANDMASTERS (final unlockable character! ), ROB 64, Peppy Hare (for teh barrel rollz! ; seriously, make "DO A BARREL ROLL" a taunt! XD), and some random Star Fox 64 character for Star Fox characters.

-Have Muk, Tyranitar, Breloom, Lucario's pre-evolution, and Professor Oak be the playable Pokémon characters.

-Have someone like Apple Kid, a random mouse, Lloyd, Piggy, or a Masked Pig Army soldier be playable as MOTHER/EarthBound characters.

-Have the Fox McCloud's dad wanna-be or Mr. EAD instead of Captain Falcon as a Star Fox rep.

-Put in two teaming Polar Bears instead of the Ice Climbers.

-Instead of Marth, Roy, Ike, etc., put in minor and random Fire Emblem characters/units.

-Instead of Game and Watch, have a giant flying octopus.

-Instead of Pit, have a random enemy in Kid Icarus, like one of the devils or something. Or the Eggplant Wizard. >_>

-Instead of Wario, have Mona Pizza or whatever. Or Waluigi so people will cry!

-Instead of R.O.B., have a R.O.B. Gyro be playable, a Balloon Fight penguin, the Balloon Fight fish, or the main character of Clu-Clu Land.

-Instead of Solid Snake, have Raiden to make people cry. Or have "Johnny", lol!

-Instead of Sonic, have Tails to watch people cry. No, scratch that off. Have SILVER THE HEDGEHOG FOR TEH MINDGAMEZ!

-Add random minor characters from the most minor games. Instead of Mega Man, have a Centaur, Centaur Man (no one likes him, lol!), or something like that. Also, throw in K.K. Slider just randomly, and have one of his attacks be Youko Punch!

You get the flow! RANDOM CHARACTERS NO ONE KNOWS FTW! Just have ALL RANDOM CHARACTERS, but make them fun, original, and CRAZY! Make it so crazy that people hate the thought of it, but once they play it, they love each character's originality. O, and add Tabuu just to add someone we all like! (maybe Toon Link! >_<)

And always remember: Make crazy, original, and fun characters! Gameplay comes first. Then tons o' characters. Then character balance. Then (original and fun) stages (Make a PictoChat stage where it can draw a giant ***** for the lawlz, lol!). Then items. Then the single player. Just add a lot of random crap, and do whatever you want. But ALWAYS remember: Obscure characters > Life!

 

[AJ-Lo]

obscure characters. I like that! haha

and I just had a thought! there should be ORIGINAL playable characters made for smash! the only ones existing that I can think of are the alloys, wireframes, and fighting polygons, and I'm sure that none of those are playable characters

 

[Lynkx]

A duel is between two people only, isn't it? If not please correct me

 

[GIGA-SkullKid]

plz put in majouras mask skullkid and bowser jr/shadow mario please

 

[crosser43]

elliot the moose for wtf character

 

[Darkwolfg]

the perfect wtf characters are veemon,gengar,jak and daxter,birdo,the worm,a ninga dog, loco roco,a repair man,the joker,samurai jak,mike tyson,the robots from the old sonic tv show,that bird in an egg from paper mario,the main guy from no more heros,conker,banjo kazooie,both main charactors from luner knights,popeye,the girl from devil may cry 3,normal midna, and finaly aiai from super monkey ball.

 

[AJ-Lo]

wow, lot's of these ridiculous characters are so... random that no one would be able to think of relevant movesets. of course, they could exist as assist trophies. I mean, what else can Waluigi do besides play mario sports? Waluigi, wtf

 

[_Slick_]

I request Toon Link, Claus/Masked Man, Ridley and Geno.

Toon Link is the only character I want desperately.

I can also beta-test, if you want, hur hur hur.

 

[majorojam]

Bomberman and Black Mage please. With gravy, cilantro, and jalapeños on top.

 

[_Slick_]

Ah yes. Bomberman. ^_^ Every move is him throwing a bomb throws a bomb (even his recoveries). xD

 

[Uncle Fitzy]

As far as I know there is only one game on the Internet that is related to your idea called Super Smash Bros. Flash... check it out, play it and then make sure your engine doesn't suck as bad as that game's engine does.

 

[Blackadder]

Hmmm.

*subs to thread*
I'll never get this game myself most likely, but still. Interesting idea.

My suggestions:
- Make Ganondorf halfway decent, give him a sword maybe?
- Keep the tourny and casuals in mind, though this game seems to be for the tournies, yes?
- Keep the clone count as low as possible
- Fox's taunt simply HAS to be the classic "Cahmon!"
- Up the speed and lessen the floatiness. Yeah, even I miss Melee's speed.
- Doodie.

 

[_Slick_]

Hmmm.

*subs to thread*
I'll never get this game myself most likely, but still. Interesting idea.

My suggestions:
- Make Ganondorf halfway decent, give him a sword maybe? Though Ganondorf has a decent chance, who says he's in this game? Oh, but if he is, sword him.
- Keep the tourny and casuals in mind, though this game seems to be for the tournies, yes? This is a homebrew game for the DS, I don't think it's going to competitive. Even if it had Wi-Fi play (*puppy-dog eyes* Pweeeze...).
- Keep the clone count as low as possible Don't worry, he's not Sakurai.
- Fox's taunt simply HAS to be the classic "Cahmon!" ^_^ Lol, a suggestion to firedragon_jing, make characters have one Taunt only (well, it'd save time but you could have more), and have the taunt be activated by Shift.
- Up the speed and lessen the floatiness. Yeah, even I miss Melee's speed. ... Meh.
- Doodie. o_o

Comments in bold.

As far as I know there is only one game on the Internet that is related to your idea called Super Smash Bros. Flash... check it out, play it and then make sure your engine doesn't suck as bad as that game's engine does.

This game BETTER be better than Super Smash Bros. Flash. That game was horrendous.

 

[CoolDude330]

Good luck... it won't be easy.
Anyways you might not want to focus on the casual players as much, due to the fact not many casual players have the equipment to run homebrew on their DS in the first place.

 

[DragonRider-ofSmashBros]

Best of luck to u good sir *salutes* anyways, how would I get to play it :? I have no idea what u guys are talking about with M3s and stuff -_-