The BlazBlue Thread: all the imports!

[Ken34]

New matches from me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKvKzuo3kgA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVajhtpCHCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I57r6bkKkEk

 

[CRASHiC]

The makers of Guilty Gear just released a new game called BlazBlue. Evolution did feature a BlazBlue side tournament, with the top 2 players playing on stage on finals day. I mention this game because I wonder if it will replace Guilty Gear in next year's Evolution lineup. I will now tell you why this game is kind of a disaster, in my opinion. At least it's *easily* corrected, but I wonder if the developers will be willing to do it. The problem: throws are terrible.

Street Fighter 4 throws have 3 frames of startup (way too long compared to the 0 frame startup of SF2 and Guilty Gear). Also, you can tech (throw escape) and take zero damage, and you have plenty of time to tech. Compare this to SF2 where you can only reduce the throw damage by about 50%, or all Guilty Gears before Accent Core where you can't reduce throw damage at all. If you thought SF4 throws were ineffective though, you haven't seen anything yet!

How about 7 frames of startup on throws! Also, you have 13 frames to tech for zero damage. Also, if you enter the command to tech, even if you weren't thrown yet, you become unthrowable for the next 11 frames. Now, it's also true that once those 11 frames are over, there's another window (not sure how long, some say 12 frames, some say 24, I don't know) where you cannot tech throws at all. This is to prevent you from mashing throw tech. Solution: don't mash throw tech, just easily tech throws in the 13 frame window + 11 more frames of leeway. Better yet, easily jab throws out of their absurdly long startup time. Or jump, because pre-jump frames (the time it takes you to leave the ground after you hold up) are 3 or 4 frames, depending on character. So if you repeatedly jump, air attack, jump, air attack, etc, you actually can't be thrown because you're never in a throwable state long enough for these slooooow throws to work. On and by the way, teching a throw pushes you almost full screen away from the opponent for some reason.

It gets worse. Maybe you want to play the throw guy, Tager, to get some decent throws. Tough luck, because his throw startup on his two normal throws are 6 and 7 frames, too. He also has two special throws. The high damage one is 8 frame startup (even longer!) and the low damage, but long range one is 11 frames! It's true that frames 3-11 of that are invulnerable, but you can't use the throw as a reversal (Potemkin in ggxx can, Zangief in SF2 can) and the opponent can easily jump out because 11 frames is a long **** time.

Just for completeness, there's also a new system where you can throw the opponent out of hitstun or blockstun. This is kind of a non-feature because the opponent has 27 frames (not a typo) to tech out of that. It's possible to make a sandwich or pitch a tent, then tech the throw in that case. Why are these developers so afraid of anyone throwing each other? I've played jaby, jab games before (CvS2) and I've played games where throws are good (SF2 and GGXX) and throws being good is just better all around. More offense, more mixups that matter, more strategy. Dear Arcsys: please implement 0 frame startup throws and damage scaling to reduce post-throw combos if necessary. Thanks. I'd hate to have to play this no-throw game as it is at Evolution 2010.

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/7/21/evolution-2009.html

 

[rpgfighter]

My friend just played BB at mah house. He freaking loves it.

 

[Timbers]

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/7/21/evolution-2009.html

I agree, but in this sense it'd make the game a lot more unbalanced :\

Not speaking about Tager, by the way.

 

[rpgfighter]

You just have to mix it up and rarely use the throw, for me its fine and as a Arakune player you need his throw to do his super. I get it almost everytime.

 

[DFEAR]

You just have to mix it up and rarely use the throw, for me its fine and as a Arakune player you need his throw to do his super. I get it almost everytime.

could use ur super as an anti air bro. then follow up and do massive damge, and it leads straight into a 6c loop if u do ur j.5c>j.2d combo

 

[Jam Stunna]

Jin in a nutshell:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/sword003/jin_stick.jpg

 

[Smooth Criminal]

lmao

Oh my God. I'm ****ing dying of laughter over here, Jam.

Smooth Criminal

 

[rpgfighter]

could use ur super as an anti air bro. then follow up and do massive damge, and it leads straight into a 6c loop if u do ur j.5c>j.2d combo

I tried on the first day using it as AA, I found it too awkward.

 

[Ken34]

Jin in a nutshell:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/sword003/jin_stick.jpg

lmao, that is so good!!!!! i hope some jin players really use that artwork for thier stick, would be hilarious.

 

[Dreadz18x]

Jin in a nutshell:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/sword003/jin_stick.jpg

god**** right lol

 

[Matador]

We're not allowed to give out PSN codes or anything are we? I wanna show off mah Carl/Rawrgna XD

Love this game.

 

[Jam Stunna]

We're not allowed to give out PSN codes or anything are we? I wanna show off mah Carl/Rawrgna XD

Love this game.

Sure you can. Mine is JamStunna, add me.

 

[Matador]

Alright, mine is Byowing (Not my idea, it's the only account with online XD)

I...may be getting banned soon too. So take down my AIM if you want to talk after/during the match or something, lol.

 

[Jam Stunna]

All right, I just added you.

 

[Matador]

Can't play right this minute, but I'll add you too and we'll play whenever we're both on. Sound good? XD

 

[NinjaFoxX]

played for the first time today at gamecrazy.


i like it.

rachel/Tao is too good xD

 

[ChaosKnight]

Rachels are emerging everywhere muhahaah

 

[NinjaFoxX]

lol.

though shes my second i just picked chars i though were cool

goth loli and neko-goodness(and i lol'd at her story dialogue)

 

[Matador]

Carl and Ragna are so amazing.

Ragna cuz he's just so badass.

Carl for the claploop XDDD

 

[SirroMinus1]

I like BB but it takes for ever to start the game up on my failbox360

 

[rpgfighter]

Went to a SF4/BB tournament, BB was quite popular. Mostly because basically everyone from NOVA that plays GG was there.

 

[Matador]

Jam's Litchi is insane. Spanked my Carl/Raggy pretty good T_T

lol, ggs.

 

[DFEAR]

first post should be edited with everyones psn/xbl and post a schedule of when players can create rooms. oh and everyone join the bb club o.o

 

[ChaosKnight]

Jam's Litchi is insane. Spanked my Carl/Raggy pretty good T_T

lol, ggs.

yea i was playing jam on Thumbwayups account with a controller it was not pretty


i need a stick to play this game or any 2d xD it just dosent feel right on a controller

 

[Matador]

Who do you play? We should get some matches in.

*clap loops*

 

[Minato]

I haven't played BB in a long time. Guess I got bored of online.
I'm still enjoying GG surprisingly.

If only I didn't suck at GG...

 

[ChaosKnight]

Who do you play? We should get some matches in.

*clap loops*

i play rachel i like her playstyle it fits like johnnys from GG and dizzys too xD

 

[Matador]

Rachel + Carl = The most chaotic fight evar

 

[Jam Stunna]

I haven't played BB in a long time. Guess I got bored of online.
I'm still enjoying GG surprisingly.

If only I didn't suck at GG...

I suck at GG as well, but I really miss it. I don't have a PS2, so I can't play it

 

[DFEAR]

if anybody wants a template for their sticks i will gladly create them for u. pm me or request in mah sig shoppe (pls provide template psd =P).

examples (resized of course):
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5158/ragnapng.png
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii250/BluFuogo/psdsigs/arakunepng.png
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii250/BluFuogo/psdsigs/hakumenpng.png
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2561/pickachutemp6.png
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6342/pickachutemp999.png

i r bored during weekdays so get at me o.o

 

[Lord Viper]

☆ If you made a Rachel template, you would had been my friend. =P ☆

 

[sakuraZaKi]

If you made a sexy Noel template, I'd love you forever <3

 

[DFEAR]

>_> pm me or request it and ill make it how u want it. i cant just make it up on the spot xD

 

[Lythium]

My copy of Blazblue has finally been shipped to me. I get to pick it up at the post office today! So freakin' excited.

 

[Dreadlord Santa]

My brother and his friend have absolutely no idea how to play this game v_v Unfortunately, they're the ONLY people I get the chance to play against... I had, like, a 20-game win-streak against his friend as Jin because he kept shooting Ds for me to ice-car over. He then complained that I completely rendered his Nu useless, because he couldn't hit me with swords v_v It's incredibly depressing to know that my main comp is one of those online ****** D spammers. I need to hook up my internet connection...

 

[NinjaFoxX]

lol stop spamming icecar...

(jk)

 

[Ken34]

My brother and his friend have absolutely no idea how to play this game v_v Unfortunately, they're the ONLY people I get the chance to play against... I had, like, a 20-game win-streak against his friend as Jin because he kept shooting Ds for me to ice-car over. He then complained that I completely rendered his Nu useless, because he couldn't hit me with swords v_v It's incredibly depressing to know that my main comp is one of those online ****** D spammers. I need to hook up my internet connection...

or you could help him get better, 5C or 214D shuts ice car down, 214D will more than likely trade most of the time, but still, a trade is in V-13's favor, since she can go straight into her D combo.

 

[Tarmogoyf]

I suck at GG as well, but I really miss it. I don't have a PS2, so I can't play it

They put Accent core+ out for the wii recentley.

 

[Lythium]

I am playing Blazblue for the first time, and I want to cry tears of joy.

This game is freakin' amazing.