The *NEW* Ice Climbers Stage Discussion Topic

[Mr. game and watch]

The think I hate about brinny is the little capsuls at the bottom.
One breaks, and you get stuck in there.
Screws up your CGs.
Bleh.
I just wanna find some possible tricks to help on those stages.
Would be nice to have SOMETHING to pull out positively in it.

 

[DeLux]

There are some things you cannot change. ICs being *** on RC/Brinstar is one of those things.

Oh Im back now. Found my interest in these guys again lol

Good. You should update the OP for Halberd and such.

I'm not well versed in the art of Rainbow Cruising. I'd rather play ICs on Brinstar honestly.

In my opinion, RC is for the most part a much better stage for us than Brinstar.

The think I hate about brinny is the little capsuls at the bottom.
One breaks, and you get stuck in there.
Screws up your CGs.
Bleh.
I just wanna find some possible tricks to help on those stages.
Would be nice to have SOMETHING to pull out positively in it.

The best trick I found for Brinstar with ICs is the Ban.
The second to best trick I found involved growing a pair (of wings) and grabbing a sword

 

[Blissard]

The second to best trick I found involved growing a pair (of wings) and grabbing a sword

I thought of Pit before I thought of MK, and I was like...

 

[DeLux]

What? Pit has a Bow? ...

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Which seperates to two swords.
There's gotta be something more...

 

[Rubberbandman]

The best trick I found for Brinstar with ICs is the Ban.
The second to best trick I found involved growing a pair (of wings) and grabbing a sword

I usually don't grow wings and a sword, I usually jump into the game and turn 2D to fight the opponent myself.

 

[Roller]

Imagine if ICs had wings... YoOoOOOOoooOo

 

[Mr. game and watch]

^ we'd be better thank mk.

 

[B0NK]

Metaknight should get a little buddy too! :D

 

[DeLux]

But seriously, a huge reason why I play Lucas is because of the lingering hitboxes on Brinstar.

I figure I'm not going to beat anyone semi competent with MK on that level using ICs, so I just try to abuse every gimmick in the world to see if I can get them to run into their own death.

It's worked twice out of the 10 or so times I've done it in tournament. Which is better than 0 with ICs out of around 100 lol

 

[Hylian]

I always ban brinstar and rarely get counterpicked to RC. *shrugs*

 

[DeLux]

*eye roll

Some of us don't have one of the best G&W's in the country sitting in their pocket

 

[Hylian]

lol gw is such a bad character though .

 

[DeLux]

Rainbow Cruise does not care how good your character is.

Rainbow Cruise waits for noone and will kill our women if we let it.

 

[Hylian]

LOL ok touche.

 

[Exceladon City]

Well, if it comes down to Brinstar, I have MK and for Rainbow Cruise, I'll go for a timeout with Sonic. I'm trying to up my lame factor.

 

[Blissard]

When it really comes down to it, everyone should just

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pocket MK and never have a horrible MU/stage again.

 

[Rubberbandman]

I always ban brinstar and rarely get counterpicked to RC. *shrugs*

Really Jordan? =/

Next you'll be looking confused as to why people don't CP Vinnie to Rainbow Cruise.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Vinnie *sigh*
pretty sure I fought utdzac his last singles tourny match ever.
He was gonna drop out but figured he'd beat the scrubby in losers bracket first.
Ugh.

 

[Roller]

I wish people would fear my pikachu more so I could play on normal stages.. =[

 

[Rubberbandman]

No one is afraid of any Pika not named Es@m.

Anther really needs to get back in the game, I might start playing pika as a secondary if he plays again.

 

[ch33s3]

When it really comes down to it, everyone should just

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pocket MK and never have a horrible MU/stage again.

Hey! That's what I do! <3

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Were nit discussing much.
Castle siege.
Good? Bad? Neutral?

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

I love Castle Siege.

I chill out the first stage/play very defensively, and if I get a grab, hoorah.

Second stage is the fun one, because lolol walk offs, that is, if anyone dares approach on the bottom, though I'm pretty sure you could fthrow and kill on the top slant parts. Uair's also really good on this stage as well.

Last one is basically tilting FD, so yeah.

I like the stage, but as a previous D3 main, this shouldn't be too much of a surprise.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Lololol.
It would seem good to walking cg off the side on the second one. Cept don't catch the guy on the last throw.

 

[Hylian]

Really Jordan? =/

Next you'll be looking confused as to why people don't CP Vinnie to Rainbow Cruise.

Nah, I went into the top 5 thread and said I should probably be on the top 5 gw list considering my recent win over Tyrant and they said I wasn't a top 5 gw and refused to put me on the list >_> lol so I wonder why people don't take me to those stages still if my gw sucks.

-.-

Also, GW is my 4th best character imo. I feel like top players shouldn't have a problem beating it and they usually don't.

 

[Rubberbandman]

Lololol.
It would seem good to walking cg off the side on the second one. Cept don't catch the guy on the last throw.

Basic knowledge is basic. I know I'm giving you a second chance but come on =/

Hylian, people know you have an at least decent pocket GW, so you really don't have to worry about hard CPs. besides, do you even go Icies in tourney that much? I thought you went falco as does Cheese with MK.

 

[Hylian]

Basic knowledge is basic. I know I'm giving you a second chance but come on =/

Hylian, people know you have an at least decent pocket GW, so you really don't have to worry about hard CPs. besides, do you even go Icies in tourney that much? I thought you went falco as does Cheese with MK.

I go all IC's at big tournaments and all falco at locals recently. And yeah you're right about cpss.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Basic knowledge is all i can give safely.
Soon I might pull a lux and read every thread to ever enter the boards just so I can get better at playing.

 

[DeLux]

I didn't learn everything by reading.

I learned what I know first by serving as an understudy to the most knowledgeable IC at the time E-Alert. I would pester him with questions all the time about how things worked. Kind of like how you're doing with me. I hope.

Once he told me how things worked, I started deriving my own technical stuff. I would test them in friendlies and in tournaments. And then one I figured out how the mechanics worked, I started theory crafting and expanding based on my understanding of the mechanics.

The ICs easily have the deepest technical game of any character (well, maybe Olimar is deeper technically according to Pac size, but practically they are the deepest). At the same time, they have the most misinformation and are the least understood character. So lately I've been pushing the limits and advancing the technical stuff on my own time. And simply correcting misinformation when I see it here.

 

[Blissard]

(well, maybe Olimar is deeper technically according to Pac size, but practically they are the deepest)

Olimar's pac file is like...a blob of utter nonsense. Most of the Pikmin mechanics haven't been understood yet, and the one's we do know are...dumb. Like how blue Pikmin drown in 2000 frames but Pikmin all die of seperation anxiety in 1200 ._.

Also G&W do you have a mentor? Idk if there's an IC mentor (with the SWF mentoring program haha) but when I joined I studied under Hilt-sama and AIM'ed him about everything. It helps a lot more to talk to an actual person and play them instead of just reading. Not saying reading everything is a bad thing though.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

^ no i don't.
Smooms on the mentor list, but I think the programs kinda dead :/

smoom would work great tho, were both in Texas.