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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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I think Bowser and Ridley are tied really. While Bowser is more bulky and has magic powers, Ridley has cunning, flight and that long tail of his (which is incredibly useful in a fight, imagine hitting someone from far away). They kinda even out in my eyes.

Everything else seems accurate. Though I would add Wario underneath Dedede and Wolf underneath Wario.
Sounds about right, though if we include Meta-Ridley and the like it may be a different story, as he can carpet bomb an area with his missiles and whatnot. And I would put Mewtwo above Ganondorf too.

As for gameplay, I can kinda see Ridley pulling a Charizard in terms of weight tbh, as Charizard is the one most similar to Ridley out of the gliders in Brawl. Still possible too that he could pull a SSBM Mewtwo as far as weight, but I find the former to be a little more likely. Either way, we'll see, and he'll still be balanced enough regardless just by being a big target, as pointed out.
 

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I think when sweetspotted, King DeDeDe's F Smash is the strongest.

As for power rankings of villians:

1) Mewtwo / Ganondorf
2) Bowser
3) Ridley
4) King K.Rool
5) Wario
6) King DeDeDe
7) Wolf
I think thats perfect !

Actually maybe K.Rool above Ridley? Maybe even Wario too...

K.Rool went head on head With Chunky when he was big! K.Rool is strong ofc if hes D.K's rival...look how strong DK is...
 

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where does kraid land on this list?
Pffft...Kraid seriously should have been in prime1..i know he was planned but scrapped..he defo needs to be in more metroid games..

I dunno..Errrrr imo Kraid seems more stronger psychicly than Ridley even though Ridley is higher up in command than him.
 

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Physical strength isn't everything, as Ridley also has the speed and projectile power to back himself up, especially his forms in the Prime games.

This is getting kinda stupid now. Next topic?
 

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where does kraid land on this list?
Kraid has a bunch of good attacks, but is a big target, takes a long time to move around, and has an obvious weak spot that easily gets him defeated each and every time. In physical strength he's pretty strong for the sole reason of his size, but besides that I'm fairly sure Ridley is stronger than him due to his big arsenal of attacks and the fact that he is very mobile in the air.

As for Ridley's weight, I'd imagine that he's a little lighter than Charizard, since Ridley's size mostly comes from his wingspan and height. He'd obviously be based around his air game, I can't see him being made otherwise, since Ridley fights in the air in the majority of games, with Meta Ridley in Prime and Omega Ridley in Prime 3 being the exceptions I can think of now, and still he has his air phases in those fights.
 

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Physical strength isn't everything, as Ridley also has the speed and projectile power to back himself up, especially his forms in the Prime games.

This is getting kinda stupid now. Next topic?
Isnt Krai meant to be like in charge of the arms/fire power something like that? Im sure Kraid has more firepower than Ridley but Ridley is smarter and faster why hes higher up in command.
 

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As a fan of Metroid, I really hope Ridley gets in. I've lurked here for a while,and seen that stupid too big argument, which I really find hilarious. I can't wait to rub Ridley's playability in their faces. But I'm really curious about what you guys think Ridley should be like as a fighter. I'm hoping he borrows a lot from Meta Ridley, with his fireballs, plasma beam, missiles, and bombs. He should be an aerial zoner, with projectiles, a long disjointed tail, and a fast and versatile glide to fly around the stage while he rains hell down onto the ground.
 

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As a fan of Metroid, I really hope Ridley gets in. I've lurked here for a while,and seen that stupid too big argument, which I really find hilarious. I can't wait to rub Ridley's playability in their faces. But I'm really curious about what you guys think Ridley should be like as a fighter. I'm hoping he borrows a lot from Meta Ridley, with his fireballs, plasma beam, missiles, and bombs. He should be an aerial zoner, with projectiles, a long disjointed tail, and a fast and versatile glide to fly around the stage while he rains hell down onto the ground.
Great to have another Ridley supporter and welcome to the boards! :D
 

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Welcome R@bid. I like your visualization of Ridley, I feel his agile tail should not be ignored, I like the idea of projectiles, and aerial combat. I think we've combined thought of a couple zillion movesets for ridley, but I guess we'll have to play the waiting game to know for sure xD
 

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As a fan of Metroid, I really hope Ridley gets in. I've lurked here for a while,and seen that stupid too big argument, which I really find hilarious. I can't wait to rub Ridley's playability in their faces. But I'm really curious about what you guys think Ridley should be like as a fighter. I'm hoping he borrows a lot from Meta Ridley, with his fireballs, plasma beam, missiles, and bombs. He should be an aerial zoner, with projectiles, a long disjointed tail, and a fast and versatile glide to fly around the stage while he rains hell down onto the ground.
To my Knowledge Ridley & Meta Ridley fight abit differently...kinda hard to say actually...normal Ridley has only been in the 2D games & Meta Ridley in the 3D games...(cough..*ignores other m completely*)
 

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To my Knowledge Ridley & Meta Ridley fight abit differently...kinda hard to say actually...normal Ridley has only been in the 2D games & Meta Ridley in the 3D games...(cough..*ignores other m completely*)
What is this "Other M" you speak of? I assure you, the last Metroid released was Prime 3.
 

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Haha, the innate sarcasm/Other M is bad thing.

I'm actually surprised, for all the quirks the game has (my biggest pet peeve being pixel hunts, as I really enjoyed the game otherwise), I thought the Ridley fight was really well done. And would think more Ridley fans would pull from that when it comes to moveset ideas (remember the dark/armor ability being discussed a few pages ago). One of his grabs should be him scraping an enemy against a wall, for instance.

Also, I saw this and felt I just HAD to post it here.

 

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Haha, the innate sarcasm/Other M is bad thing.

I'm actually surprised, for all the quirks the game has (my biggest pet peeve being pixel hunts, as I really enjoyed the game otherwise), I thought the Ridley fight was really well done. And would think more Ridley fans would pull from that when it comes to moveset ideas (remember the dark/armor ability being discussed a few pages ago). One of his grabs should be him scraping an enemy against a wall, for instance.

Also, I saw this and felt I just HAD to post it here.

Saved! That pic is sick.
 

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Isnt Krai meant to be like in charge of the arms/fire power something like that? Im sure Kraid has more firepower than Ridley but Ridley is smarter and faster why hes higher up in command.
What is Kraid's firepower besides flinging nails and occasionally shooting spikes out of his belly? Pretty sure plasma breath alone is better than either of those... As for your question, never heard of Kraid having such a position. Does Brainstar even have an armory to speak of?

Haha, the innate sarcasm/Other M is bad thing.

I'm actually surprised, for all the quirks the game has (my biggest pet peeve being pixel hunts, as I really enjoyed the game otherwise), I thought the Ridley fight was really well done. And would think more Ridley fans would pull from that when it comes to moveset ideas (remember the dark/armor ability being discussed a few pages ago). One of his grabs should be him scraping an enemy against a wall, for instance.
For most, if they don't like the design or appearance which is the case for Other Ridley, then they could care less what he has to bring to the table as far as unique moves or anything. But yes, the boss fight itself in the game was one of the best out of all his appearances, though that's usually overlooked by the controversy the cutscene right before it caused.

As for that pic, yeah. Saw it before on DA. lolz Now Samus is too big!
 

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It's possible that Sakurai might use, update, or amalgate the Other M model due to it's relevancy, (I'm sure he'll use the Samus models from it.) but he may also choose not to since he clearly likes the Super design and also because that wasn't actually Ridley. (Same can be said about Fusion, and moreso.)

I'm really wondering if he'll speed up Samus in the next two games. She was surprisingly quick in MOM.
 

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Joking aside, that's nothing compared to the bust size I've seen of her in other fanart...

It's possible that Sakurai might use, update, or amalgate the Other M model due to it's relevancy, (I'm sure he'll use the Samus models from it.) but he may also choose not to since he clearly likes the Super design and also because that wasn't actually Ridley. (Same can be said about Fusion, and moreso.)

I'm really wondering if he'll speed up Samus in the next two games. She was surprisingly quick in MOM.
Wouldn't mind if Sakurai did the first option with Ridley depending on how it's done, but I see the 2nd option being more likely, not to mention it would make more people happy.

Samus was mainly quick in Other M due to the superhuman reacting timing the game gave her in being able to dodge any attack with the sense move (Omega Ridley had something similar if you tried to use the Screw Attack on him :troll: ), which would probably make her broken if she had it in Smash. Well that and she was more athletic like the sidescrollers. Would definitely like her to have more speed in the next Smash though, but I think Sakurai intended Zero Suit Samus to be the "speed form" while armored Samus is the opposite...
 

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Why would the suit conform to her breasts like that. That's not what breasts look like with skin tight clothing on
 

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It's possible that Sakurai might use, update, or amalgate the Other M model due to it's relevancy, (I'm sure he'll use the Samus models from it.) but he may also choose not to since he clearly likes the Super design and also because that wasn't actually Ridley. (Same can be said about Fusion, and moreso.)


I'm really wondering if he'll speed up Samus in the next two games. She was surprisingly quick in MOM.
I knew that Metriod: Other M had some form of pregnancy/parental subliminable message.
 

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For most, if they don't like the design or appearance which is the case for Other Ridley, then they could care less what he has to bring to the table as far as unique moves or anything. But yes, the boss fight itself in the game was one of the best out of all his appearances, though that's usually overlooked by the controversy the cutscene right before it caused.
I can respect that. It's clearly the wrong opinion, but I can respect it.

Joking aside, that's nothing compared to the bust size I've seen of her in other fanart...
Not to mention it's nothing compared to some of the bust sizes she's been depicted with IN GAME.
You'd think Ninty's never seen anything but A-cups over there.


Why would the suit conform to her breasts like that. That's not what breasts look like with skin tight clothing on
This guy knows what's up. Although supposedly she wears clothes under the suit (orange two-piece from Fusion, any anything scantier prior).

(Omega Ridley had something similar if you tried to use the Screw Attack on him :troll: )
I used to Screw Attack (innuendo not intended) towards him right as he charged an attack for this reason. :troll:

I'm really wondering if he'll speed up Samus in the next two games. She was surprisingly quick in MOM.
Don't see any reason not to. In fact, she was fairly quick and nimble in Smash 64. I wouldn't mind either way, though.

As for that pic, yeah. Saw it before on DA. lolz Now Samus is too big!
Samus too big for smash.
I may very well change the Samus Boards Social thread title to this at some point.
 

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Theres alotta stuff going on with Ridley even if hes announced theres still gonna be alotta talk/controversy about his playstyle. And Speed>Power or Power>Speed?

Its alottt easier to do for bowser and ganondorf there straight power but Ridley and know that i think about it Mewtwo too...

Dunno Mewtwo maybe better balanced in Sm4sh and Ridley could be poorly balanced like Melee's mewtwo...atleast if Ridleys stuck with all tail attacks he would be better than Melee Mewtwo xD.....
 

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Not in that it should happen, but realistically is all I said. :reverse: ;)
 

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Someone made me feel self-conscious about calling Ridley a pirate once, when I wasn't as Strong as I am today. Something about how calling Ridley a pirate and Sheik a ninja is silly, but unbeknownst to them I had drawn a picture of them fighting because of that whole pirates vs ninjas thing.

Anyway, wow I didn't expect him to get so high.
 

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Yeah, he definitely counts as a pirate. I kind of hate the group name "Space Pirates" though... sounds kind of generic and juvenile. Also, in an age of widespread space travel, you wouldn't call yourselves space pirates, since the space part is assumed.

... then again, I guess traditional pirates would be called "Sea pirates" sometimes for whatever reason, so maybe I'm just not getting it. Still... I think, if the Metroid series was made these days, they would've spent more time thinking of a cooler name for the bad guys.
 
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