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I think a few pedants would say magicant comes from mother 1 due to the way it looks but I suppose as a reoccurring location it counts for bothEarthbound has now gotten Onett, Fourside and Magicant, 3 in total to get an idea, but Melee's idea was balanced enough, two per game works. That's not to say said game shouldn't eventually get 3 like Earthbound, especially if its critically acclaimed. And has vast stage potential.
I definitely feel like the issue with sonic in smash isn’t really his moveset itself (minus the side special) but just the total lack of personality in his attacks and taunts.
The day they dropped "You're too slow!" as a taunt was the day something in Smash Sonic died and never returned.
I mean, it was an interesting novelty in Brawl's heyday. I think they could've left it at a certain amount of third parties with various connections to the identity of Smash's publishers and it would've stayed tolerable.
i wonder that myself sometimes and i like several of the 3rd parties. id certainly feel more hopeful for chibi
I do think you could make a case for PSASBR being a better game than Brawl, but not any of the other Smash games.
what do you mean by better crossover?
PSASBR features heavy characters interactions - specifically in fully voiced rival battle cutscenes, of which there are two for each rivalry - one for each perspective. The stages in PSASBR are also based on two game series instead of one (for example, Killzone robots ravaging PaRappa the Rapper's hometown or Sly Cooper's thief gang raiding the Uncharted plane)
Interesting. I think I prefer the idea of one stage = one game/serie, but it makes you think. Also, yeah, absolutely zero interaction between the characters is a shame - asides from Wolf and Fox's final smash, and they're from the same games...
and can you be sure that’s what they meant?
What I mean is, PlayStation All-Stars has plenty more interaction between the characters outside of fighting. It has things like Sweet Tooth challenging Kratos because the latter knocked over his ice cream, Parappa defending a Pipo Monkey from Spike, the Little Sister from BioShock wanting to play with Sackboy, and Drake stealing pages of the Thievius Raccoonius from Sly Cooper, prompting him to give chase. Even in the opening sequence, we have a scene about Little Sister and Sackboy, plus a moment where Sir Daniel rescues Fat Princess from Evil Cole:
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Stuff like this is exactly why I loved the SSE so much. It may not have had much in the way of enemies or locales from each series, but those unlikely alliances and little interactions between characters sell the crossover aspect of Smash better than anything else.What I mean is, PlayStation All-Stars has plenty more interaction between the characters outside of fighting. It has things like Sweet Tooth challenging Kratos because the latter knocked over his ice cream, Parappa defending a Pipo Monkey from Spike, the Little Sister from BioShock wanting to play with Sackboy, and Drake stealing pages of the Thievius Raccoonius from Sly Cooper, prompting him to give chase. Even in the opening sequence, we have a scene about Little Sister and Sackboy, plus a moment where Sir Daniel rescues Fat Princess from Evil Cole:
Compared to Smash Bros., you only really see things like that in the reveal trailers, while in-game, they don't really talk or interact with each other at all outside of Palutena's Guidance.
Outside of the character interactions, the stages are all themed after one universe "invading" another one, like a battleground from Killzone being bombarded by Pipo Monkeys, or Hades being felled by the plucky Patapon Warriors. I'll admit, seeing the Killzone robots march on Parappa's hometown and get defeated by Chop Chop Master Onion can get distracting or even stale, but it does sell the crossover aspect of the game.
... Basically, what
I'm sorry if this got too long, I'm just really quick to defend PlayStation All-Stars because that game had a lot of good ideas, dangit. >:T
so like lego dimensions minus daleksWhat I mean is, PlayStation All-Stars has plenty more interaction between the characters outside of fighting. It has things like Sweet Tooth challenging Kratos because the latter knocked over his ice cream, Parappa defending a Pipo Monkey from Spike, the Little Sister from BioShock wanting to play with Sackboy, and Drake stealing pages of the Thievius Raccoonius from Sly Cooper, prompting him to give chase. Even in the opening sequence, we have a scene about Little Sister and Sackboy, plus a moment where Sir Daniel rescues Fat Princess from Evil Cole:
Compared to Smash Bros., you only really see things like that in the reveal trailers, while in-game, they don't really talk or interact with each other at all outside of Palutena's Guidance.
Outside of the character interactions, the stages are all themed after one universe "invading" another one, like a battleground from Killzone being bombarded by Pipo Monkeys, or Hades being felled by the plucky Patapon Warriors. I'll admit, seeing the Killzone robots march on Parappa's hometown and get defeated by Chop Chop Master Onion can get distracting or even stale, but it does sell the crossover aspect of the game.
... Basically, what
I'm sorry if this got too long, I'm just really quick to defend PlayStation All-Stars because that game had a lot of good ideas, dangit. >:T
PlayStation All-Stars's rivalries are kinda weird, though. I know part of it is due to having a small roster, but it's pretty limited. Also, rival interactions wouldn't work all that well in Smash since a ton of the playable cast are officially silent protagonists.
I'd like to see that in Smash, but maybe as a single dedicated stage rather than all of the stages being dedicated to that.Outside of the character interactions, the stages are all themed after one universe "invading" another one, like a battleground from Killzone being bombarded by Pipo Monkeys, or Hades being felled by the plucky Patapon Warriors. I'll admit, seeing the Killzone robots march on Parappa's hometown and get defeated by Chop Chop Master Onion can get distracting or even stale, but it does sell the crossover aspect of the game.
... Basically, what
I think it's pretty telling that everything about the game except the core gameplay is a good idea. Even then, a lot of the good ideas aren't executed as well as they could.
What's annoying about them?
I think it was the TV show versions that did it for him
Ngl, Sonic has become oversaturated. I feel like he's irrelevant. And definitely shouldn't be in a Smash reboot. To add, Sonic's whole theme doesn't compliment Smash all that well, he never actually properly blended in with the worlds. But Nintendo seems to try.
Come to think of it, while I've never taken ire towards these three characters, they all made me neutrally shrug at their inclusions. They're probably the most cookie cutter of all third-party inclusions, and that's not inherently a problem over the ones I hate, but it's perhaps indicative of how boring even the best of guests ended up being implemented.
Their playstyle honestly. Sonic is extremely obnoxious and the other two are just projectile spammers. Mega Man has no real personality to speak of, and the personality of Sonic and Pac Man is just annoying. But I guess their iconic status just means they're staying around, and I kinda hate that.
Honestly, it kind of bugs me that people think Bandana Dee is the only option for Kirby.
I think you're confusing what people want and what they expect.
Most Geno fans I've interacted with also want Mallow to come back. I've also seen some fringe support for Vivian, but most people have given up on that considering how horribly mistreated Paper Mario is these days (not that SMRPG has it any better, I guess). Stanley and the DKR guys could be neat, but they'd probably be more of DK reps than Mario ones. I'll be real, I don't see how Rudy the Clown could work as a fighter and I had to look up who King Totomesu even is.
You think that's true? I notice a higher rate of people expecting Bandana Dee over any other character in Kirby. To my knowledge, even Toad is outclassed these days by a lot of his fellow Mario candidates, yet Bandana Dee gets the most spotlight in his franchise.
That applies to literally every 3rd party character to varying extent
I'm not a Kirby fan at all: the only Kirby game I have finished was... Kirby's Dream Land, on the Game Boy. So I might be wrong about what the Kirby fans want. But from what I read, I think they want Bandana Dee first, for several reasons, and some of those reasons, like him being recurrent, or being the unofficial fourth guy of the quartet, and so on, can also be seen as arguments in his favor, hence making him a "legitimate" candidate, perhaps likelier than other Kirby characters. But I might be wrong.
what do you mean by outclassed? fan demand or game appearances?
