Needs MOAR CLAUS! But, other franchises needed more rep other than MOTHER though. Metroid, F-Zero, Donkey Kong (King K FTW!), Fire Emblem, Perhaps even Wario or Yoshi IMO.
True that, my friend.
MOTHER: Claus / Masked Man (without question)
F-Zero: Black Shadow (I guess...)
DK: King K. Rool
FE: Lyn, Micaiah, Hector, or whoever the new lord is at the time
Wario: Mona or Captain Syrup
Yoshi: Kamek
It's a little iffy, though. I still don't really know if Kamek would be appropriate, and same thing with Mona. These franchises are offshoots of one major franchise (Mario), so it's hard to say whether or not they should be getting another rep next time around.
I think the chances of at least getting those characters in is if we have someone else do the next one that's willing to be as accurate as possible to the original sources.
By the way, if that happens, this should be Lucas and Ness' movesets:
Lucas:
B: PK Love: Lucas releases PK Love from the heart and it explodes with a medium radius.
Side B: Salt Water Gun: Shoots out salt water that damages with its bad taste. Has minor knockback. It can be held down with the B button until it's all out.
Down B: PK Counter: Lucas sets up a shield around around himself. When he's hit, the shield shatters and attacks the opponent.
Up B: Bird Cage: Takes out a cage filled with birds that raise him up.
Final Smash: PK Love Ω: Like the regular PK Love but it covers the entire stage if it's done from the center of the stage.
Ness:
B: PK Paralysis: Works like how Ness' PK Flash works already in the SSB series. However, this freezes the opponent in place.
Side B: PK Flash: Shoots out a grean beam that, if it hits the opponent, leaves the opponent in a broken shield state.
Down B: PK Hypnosis: Works like Mewtwo's but better range and inflicts no damage.
Up B: PK Teleport: Disappears and then poofs out of nowhere like Shiek, Mewtwo, and Zelda.
Final Smash: PK ROCKIN'!!!!!!!!!!!: Ness makes a guitar out of PSI and then starts playing a rock version of Pollyanna. The notes then go off in random directions and Ness is invincible during this.
Grab: Instead of the Rope Snake, he uses the Shield Snatcher.
Hmm...accurate, yes. It's a shame to lose PK Thunder. Actually, it's a shame to lose most of those moves. From what I've seen, I really love Lucas' playstyle. Your moveset is very creative, though. I might change his B move since he already uses forms of PK Love in his standard attacks; Omega is still acceptable as a FS. I would love to see a cool animation along the lines of an FF Limit Break, maybe with an appearance by Hinawa's ghost.
People will certainly agree that Ness has no personality, but does Link suck for his lack of personality?
No?
****ing right.
Oh, and why in the world would we get rid of PK Thunder?
Ideal moveset =
Lucas:
B: PK Freeze
Smash B: PK Fire
Up B: PK Thunder
Down B: PK Earth
Final Smash: PK Starstorm
Ness:
B: PK Flash
Smash B: PK Brainshock
Up B: PK Teleport
Down B: PK Shield
Final Smash: PK Rockin'
Simple. Lucas is primarily offensive, Ness is primarily defensive. Give Ness some extra speed and jump, Lucas the extra offense.
There's a difference, though. With Link, you don't have other options. He IS the Legend of Zelda. With the MOTHER series, however, you have multiple heroes from which you might choose. There is also the fact that we're talking two different genres. With action, Link's stoic composure is an essence of his personality: the strong, silent hero. With RPGs, however, having a main character like Ness--an average kid who doesn't talk--kind of takes away from the experience because RPGs are, by nature, more personality-driven (in my opinion).
Cool to see PK Ground, though.
How the hell would Love be inconsistent? Also, it's PK Ground, not Earth.
I have no idea what the second sentence means other than that you think my moveset isn't differing the two enough. By the way, PK Love is more important than PK Starstorm. Let Poo and Kumatora use that move, not them.
It would probably go to Kumatora, only because I see her getting in before Poo.
If I had to make movesets, I'd give Lucas and Ness their own moves, and give their old set to Paula/Kumatora/Poo.
In theory, it's a great idea. The problem: when has Sakurai ever completely redone someone's moveset--not just in the Mario sense of "replace a move," but an all-out new moveset? (Plus, they would still come after Claus's inclusion, so that means MOTHER would need four reps for your idea to come through. It's good, but unlikely.)
I don't know. I think Lucas sounds better. but that's just me. although the wider arc in Ness's starstorm may seem useful in the bigger stages
Agreed. I like that he puts the emphasis on the first syllable, as opposed to Ness's second-syllable stress.
I must say, I've NEVER played a game from the Mother Franchise...but dear lord...."Smashing Song of Praise" is downright wonderful!
Ah, it's so true! Frankly, all of the M3 music that they chose is wonderful, ESPECIALLY the M3 Love Theme! It's absolutely beautiful. :bigthumbu
Which would justify them having the same moves, meaning they don't need a moveset.
They have enough differences that they could - and should - have different moves.
The problem is that Sakurai won't change them. (Plus, I just like Lucas the way he is.) It would certainly be more accurate, however.
I don't know. Now that I think about, Luigifications of each other would probably be the best and most appropriate.
So changes made to
both of them, making them even further apart than Mario and Luigi? Revolutionary.
and it looks like I have another 5-7 years ahead of it again... times double. It's not something that bothers me to the point of not using them (like Ganondorf) but it still bothers me.
