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ZGD: Livin by a thread.

Espy Rose

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I disagree. Shields screw with Zelda's regular and smash attacks as is. Weaker shields would require people to contest Zelda's standard attacks far more often, since shielding wouldn't be able to just stomp on her like it does now.

I refuse to talk about her specials because there's nothing you can reasonably do to make them both good and not-obnoxious.

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#HBC | Scary

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I mean... How I see her right now, she is really strictly tools without a base. You're right with the lack of approach (which is why it's so fun to just charge at someone, trips them out) and she has a plethora of weaknesses.

I agree in the light that she was designed to be a glass cannon. It kinda is obvious to see. It is hard to succeed but she still has niches where she can do well I think.
 

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Funny thing is that, except for the Aerial Attacks tweaking, a lot of the listed changes were made for Balanced Brawl.
And the load time when you change from Sheik to Zelda (and vice-versa) was also improved.
 

Rizen

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Zelda's glass cannon aspects help her more in doubles.
IMO Zelda vs Ganon is +1 not +2. IDK where the +2 came from. Link v Ganon is +1 and Link does slightly better than Zelda imo.
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Edit, I found a cat cartoon that says it:
 

JigglyZelda003

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Imo Jigglypuff Zelda is either 0 or -1.
I don't have much to go by though because only Jigglypuff I've played in tournament is Thinkaman and that was only once.
I feel like if the Jigglypuff played super campy Zelda couldn't really do anything and it would be a -1, on the other hand if Zelda's in the lead it's super hard for Jigglypuff to get in in Zelda has the lead so idk.
that's basically how it is and why it's hard to give it a 0 or -1. i'm no pro, but i know from playing it from both sides it really comes down to camping and if Zelda can gain 1% lead.
 

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Gurl they gave her a sliding Nayru's Love for no good reason.
Something I was never happy with, but can understand the reasoning behind it.
It's also really fun.
Zelda's glass cannon aspects help her more in doubles.
Doubles are the prime example that Brawl was crafted mostly thinking on FFA's
Edit, I found a cat cartoon that says it:
I have a Garfield book, "Why do you hate mondays?" and it has always been my favourite book forever and ever. I often quote it IRL.

Ganon mains not knowing the match up and overrating Zelda (Verm).
Zelda mains overrating Zelda (Ed, probably those other queens on the panel too).

Kyoko weren't you on there?
I was, I actually proposed to change the Ganondorf matchup to +1, we didn't discuss it, and it was up for a Third panel to decide it and they didn't change it.
 

KayLo!

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lol no.

Just http://atrl.net/

Lipstick Alley is messy lmao
It is, it's just the way you post reminds me a LOT of how the people there post. I used to read it occasionally when I watched Basketball Wives. (Then even that show got too much for me, which is saying something.... I'm a very sick reality tv addict.)
 

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I mean, if you saw what I do to Ganon, you may be inclined to see my crazy ways lol. I don't think it got brought up because we were able to do only so many MUs so we settled on other ones.

lol 3rd party.
 

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^They were already IN the game. This preview was mostly showing all the characters that weren't already in P:M to hype it up.

Particularly Samus. :p
 

Fuujin

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Ew Project M​
Let's change this topic and talk about ARTPOP
Favorite tracks?​
mine are​
God tier:
GUY
Do What U Want
Great tier:
Applause
Aura
Venus
Swine
Mary Jane Holland
Dope
MANiCURE
Jewels and Drugs
Okay tier:
Donatella
BYE tier:
Gypsy
Flawfree album(minus Gypsy)​
PopAOTY​
Better than your faves​
etc.​
 

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Edit, this page need more R.E.M. :smirk:

Nope, i still lack in the vids department. I just see that MU, along with a few others, so easy because I like to play aggressive with them lol.
Lol yeah, I believe you. I know what it's like to have very few (offline) videos because my region is so bad at uploading anything. It's really hard to convince people a bad character can actually do well. Although for the record, in my experience Ganon/Zelda is -/+1. I think there are some people who are exceptionally good with a character(s) and that is hard to grasp for people who haven't played them. This applies more to uncommon low tiers.
When I've played people like DLA's Ganon, the Ad/mi...ral 's Pit (who said he'd teach me the MU and never did >:[), Mocha or Linkz' Zelda, Pe,.nta's G&W, Se/agu ll's or Tear's MK... lol I won't list them all. The point is really good people just shock you at what characters can do. I think people need more exposure to really good players of each character.

I was a little disappointed with how much Link was downplayed myself but that's how the cookie crumbles :ohwell:
 

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