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  • ARMS should be at EVO 2021. If Smash can be part of it ARMS can too.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    ARMS is not a good competitive game in the slightest, there is barely anything resembling a skill curve - the only tactic you can learn is faster reflexes, nothing beyond that.
    Some say Banjo is the only western character in Smash but you could make the argument that Banjo is a Donkey Kong character because he first appeared in a DK game and that Banjo-Kazooie is a DK spin off series because Rare said the DK and BK universes are linked.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    If Banjo is a Donkey Kong character, so is the Great Mighty Poo.

    Think before you speak.
    RealPokeFan11
    RealPokeFan11
    Continuing this argument, this also means the Great Mighty Poo is a Mario character, since Donkey Kong is also a Mario character lol (jk)

    While all of these characters may lie within the same universe, that does not mean Banjo is a DK character, or the Great Mighty Poo is a Mario character.

    (Reworded for clarity)
    BonafideFella
    BonafideFella
    Confound that Mr Pants, diluting everything I hold dear in relation to Donkey Kong
    Gaps between the release dates for characters that are part of the same Fighter's Pass are always 2-3 months apart. Min Min isn't part of Vol. 1 and it's been 2 months since she released. FP7 will probably release soon.
    When N64 games come to Switch Online, Super Mario 64, OOT, Mario Kart 64, Star Fox 64 and Banjo-Kazooie should be the first ones to be added. N64 games must take longer to port than NES and SNES games do so it would makes sense if there were only 5 to start with.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    I feel like if they did B-K for switch, it’d most likely be in a pack with it’s sequel on the eShop. Kinda like how Megaman X legacy collections are on the eShop, but Megaman X isn’t on SNES online.
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    "when" implies it actually will happen (it won't)
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    If that was to happen, I would say take down B&K and add Ocarina of Time instead. Then, later, add B&K in a package along with Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, BlastCorps, and Conker. Feels more natural that way. But like SGoW implies, it probably won’t ever happen.
    It don't matter if a character is Japanese or western. If a character has at least some Japanese fans that's the only thing that matters because Japan gets the first say in what characters should join.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Well, that’s certainly a pessimistic way to look at it.
    Captain Toad could work as a Smash character if he had the ability to take off his backpack. When it's off he can jump but he won't be able to do attacks that involve the backpack. When the backpack is on him, he's hard to launch and he can't jump.
    Min Min's four made up alts should have referenced other ARMS characters. If she had an alt that resembles Dr. Coyle, she would have a green hat and a green and black shirt and her arms would be the color gold.
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    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    This I agree with. I think it was a missed opportunity to not have Alt colors directly referencing the ARMS roster. I would have even been fine with them referencing only female characters.
    Ultimate has something for everyone. That means Ultimate's target demographic is everyone. Plus Sakurai never said Ultimate was only for good boys and girls so I could be right about this.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    I mean, Sakurai himself was apparently not pleased when he learned that Western fans essentially put words in his mouth (which is nothing new, but still).

    Also, some of Nintendo's localizers can go overboard...
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    We’re you at one point taking the phrase “A game for good boys and girls” seriously?
    Inkling Man
    Octo Expansion is one of the best DLC expansions for any game ever. It's challenging, it has a memorable and well written story and you can win gear, coins and drink tickets in it.
    In Smash 6, Min Min's shield needs to be the one she uses in ARMS while guarding. The Spring Man assist trophy has his ARMS shield so why not give Min Min hers?
    When you realize Randal from FE Echoes is voiced by Squidward.
    In WoL they need to add the ability to skip spirit battles and come back to them later but you can't go into warp portals on the map until you collect enough spirits. For example you'd need to collect 25 spirits to enter the Molten Fortress map.
    I like how the plot of SM64DS is different from the original. Yoshi is the real hero in the DS version. Without him, Mario wouldn't be able to defeat Bowser.
    Why is Banjo singled out for being a western character when Diddy Kong and King K. Rool are western too? Plus Banjo is a DK character too since he first appeared in a DK game.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    But they were all invented by Rare. All of them were designed by Greg Mayles too.
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    Lionfranky
    Difference is that Diddy and KKR were created characters under Donkey Kong franchise, Nintendo owned franchise. While Banjo first showed up in Diddy Kong racing, Banjo's games became totally indepedant from Donkey Kong franchise. Rare made Banjo(game) from scratch. That's why they own the ip. Banjo was not burrowed ip.
    Megadoomer
    Megadoomer
    Banjo and Kazooie are fully owned by Microsoft, a western company. Diddy and K. Rool might have been created by a British company, and Dark Samus was created by an American company, but all three of those characters are owned by Nintendo, a Japanese company.

    Banjo and Kazooie are the first characters owned by a non-Japanese company to be playable in Smash.
    In Smash 6 Spring Man could join and there could be 4 alts for him and 4 for Ribbon Girl. I know they each have their own abilities in ARMS but the Koopalings each have their own abilities too and that didn't stop them from being Bowser Jr. alts.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    Who said I want Min Min cut? At what point did I ever imply that?
    The Stoopid Unikorn
    The Stoopid Unikorn
    The difference is that in the case of the Koopalings, the vast majority of the moveset comes from the Clown Car, so Bowser Jr.'s own abilities aren't exactly showcased either because driving vehicules like that is not unique to him anymore; Koopalings have done it since New Super Mario Bros. 2.

    The only thing that is truly Junior's own unique thing is the Final Smash. Everything else is something that a Koopaling could realistically and canonically do, which is why them being alts work while multiple ARMS characters as alts don't.
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    > Who said I want Min Min cut? At what point did I ever imply that?

    Because we don’t need two (technically three with Ribbon Girl) reps from ARMS. Splatoon should get first dibs for a secondary rep over ARMS considering Splatoon is bigger than ARMS and, as far as we know, ARMS isn’t getting a sequel in the near future. Then again, Smash 6, if it does come, will be here in, like, 2030.
    Kamp Koral is disrespectful to Stephen Hillenburg. He never wanted SpongeBob to have a spin off series and yet Nickelodeon is ignoring his wishes.
    Amazing. ARMS now has a rep in Smash and people are STILL disrespectful towards ARMS.
    Smash Ultimate and Atelier Ryza are both rated Pegi 12 in Europe so why would Ryza need to be censored in Smash Ultimate?
    Rule of thumb, every new or upcoming Nintendo game will get either a spirit event or a Tetris 99 theme but not both.
    With all of these Nintendo leaks happening, I hope the unreleased Twelve Tales Conker 64 prototype gets leaked too.
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    RetrogamerMax
    I think Rare would probably have the source codes and files for all the DKC games they made as well. But Nintendo owns it even if they still have the files over back at Rare HQ. I don't believe we will see anything Rare related DKC or not come out of this leak.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    The only Rare content I could see us getting is perhaps some unused Rare content from the first 2 Smash games, assuming we get GC leaks. (which doesn't seem too far-fetched since there are GBA leaks) It's said that Rare trophies almost got into Melee.
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    RetrogamerMax
    I have a theory that Diddy Kong was planned for Melee as he had no trophy in the game but K. Rool and Dixie did. Why the hell Diddy Kong didn't get a trophy when they did when he's more important? Perhaps he was planned to be playable and they couldn't put him in in time due to time constraints. This hasn't been confirmed, but it's just my theory he was planned to be playable due to the missing trophy.
    Why are all the characters in Onward fantasy creatures? If all the characters were humans, the story would largely be the same.
    Elma's chances are higher than Rex's at this point. Xenoblade X has no music and spirits are now allowed to become playable. We don't know if Mii costumes are yet.
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    Guynamednelson
    Being more demanded will take priority over the lack of music.
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    RetrogamerMax
    Inkling Man Inkling Man I agree. But Rex fans will go on and on telling you his popularity destroys Elma's chances and the Xenoblade rep can't be anyone but him. They will repeat this like a broken record so I will suggest not engaging in a pointless debate.
    Given that Spring Man is everything except a playable character and his stage is in the game, he's probably a shoe in for Smash 6.
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    OnyanRings
    OnyanRings
    I read that as if you were saying that Spring Man would be represented as a shoe in smash 6.
    Origami King is a Mario game where Bowser isn't the main villian. A Mario game like this comes around once in a great while.
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    I hope the paper world is more peaceful now.
    Just because the announcement of the July 20th direct didn't happen today doesn't mean it won't get announced tomorrow or the next day. Nintendo usually announces a Nintendo Direct 1-2 days in advance too.
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