Ask a quick question, get a quick answer (The Marth FAQ's)

[Geenareeno]

You're nuts, MK ***** Snake
MK's "worst" MUs are definitely Diddy, Falco, maybe Olimar. I think Marth does better than Snake vs MK.

Idk about that

K well don't listen to me I thought that was an established fact.

 

[Shaya]

metgame advances/changes.
nothing is forever set in stone.

 

[_Kadaj_]

Anaky's right but the difference gap between the two is very small, ALMOST minute (his projectiles are what give him a slight edge)

 

[~Radiance~]

hey this may be answering a question thats been answered before many a time but, i cant seem to find info on the dthrow cg on falco and others to be guranteed. as a pika main i know that marths dthrow to tipper me all the time and it seems guranteed, but when i try it my opponet is always able to spot dodge my grab. idk why tho, im buffering the dash grab and still im getting spot dodged. what i wana know is what am i dooin wrong cuz i swear i know that **** is guranteed.

 

[MDJA109]

I noticed that some Marth's are able to pivot B out of a dash with a slide, I always thought it was just a softpivot out of a foxtrot to a Shieldbreaker but I guess I'm wrong, can anyone explain how to do this?

EDIT: Nvm didn't think to B-reverse on the ground

 

[SeekHeart]

can someone tell me how marth camps?

 

[Cyzs]

I've noticed someone using an uncharged Shieldbreaker offstage while recovering, does this actually help Marth's horizontal recovery?

 

[SeekHeart]

I think it is more of a punishable thing than a helpful thing

 

[Rad]

Using uncharged Shieldbreaker gives you a slight horizontal momentum boost, yes.

 

[SeekHeart]

here's a question, how does one chain grab falco with marth?

 

[Kuro~]

here's a question, how does one chain grab falco with marth?

fthow to edge then spike=grab fthrow run grab fhrow grab fhtrow spike <3 even tho im pretty sure ur talkin about sumfin else lol.

 

[Cyzs]

IIRC you can dthrow 10x then fsmash.

Also, does Marth have anything guaranteed on Snake on a grab at 0%?

 

[SeekHeart]

do you have to boost grab or something?

 

[Remzi]

It's fthrow x2 > dthrow x4 i believe. thats as far as I take it anyways. boost grab not needed, marth's boost grab is the same as his dash grab.

Marth on snake at 0% has fthrow > DB which is the easiest and most reliable.
You can do fthrow > fair/nair as well but the timing is very strict, you have to be nearly frame perfect.

 

[Anaky]

For Snake:

Fthrow > SS Fsmash or Fthrow > Dancing Blade.

While discussing this, is it possible to Fthrow > Regrab Snake? I havent played a real person in awhile, i always thought it didnt work.

For Falco:

Fthrow x2 + Dthrow x5 or Dthrow x9-10. I usually just do Fthrow x2 and Dthrow x3 cuz the extra 2 throws isnt much damage and i dont bother risking it.

There my 2 best matchups haha. Well fav anyway.

 

[_Kadaj_]

You can f throw to fair Anaky for Snake, no regrab though

 

[Player-3]

if you can fthrow fair, can you fthrow uair usmash/nair/regrab?

 

[Shaya]

i'm pretty sure you can regrab snake...

for falco there is:
fthrow x2 -> dthrow x3 -> fsmash
or dthrow x10

dthrowx10 is hard to do, strict timing.

 

[Anaky]

Shaya you can dthrow 5 times after the 2 fthrows.

Against Snake you cant fthrow Nair him unless he DI's up. Dunno about usmash, and fair isnt that useful, SS fsmash everytime for me.

 

[Reizilla]

I'm pretty sure 10 is more than 5. Just saiyan.

 

[toki]

Should I be full hopping fair-ing snake most of the time?

 

[LooftWaffles]

Should I be full hopping fair-ing snake most of the time?

Yes. Any short hopped aerial can be beaten by utilt after he blocks it. Except Nair if you space it well.

I cringe every time I see a Marth shfair at kill %

 

[6Mizu]

Can someone direct me to the thread that has the AT True Pivot?
Link please?

I need to learn it...

 

[toki]

oh hai
I was vsing a DDD player few days ago and I found something pretty cool on Lylat (it probs have been found already but I wasnt aware of it ) I grabbed DDD at the end of lylat and he couldnt get out of my grab.
This video explains all, @ 1:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NwQMiWswC0

 

[dean.]

Hi Toki! That's not a question >.>
I've seen Dedede's break out of grabs quickly like that before, when they're in the air. When it happens to me I'm usually happy as it means I didn't get thrown or grab released... I didn't know it gave a frame advantage to the releaser. Seems interesting. It's not stage dependant, though.
So... I don't have much to say >.> It's not really discussed much.

 

[toki]

Oh hai Dean <3
So its not the stage? The DDD player said he couldnt get out of it so I just wanted to learn how I pulled that of, so It'll be useful in the future.

 

[LooftWaffles]

Oh hai Dean <3
So its not the stage? The DDD player said he couldnt get out of it so I just wanted to learn how I pulled that of, so It'll be useful in the future.

I dont think that was inescapeable. Since his shield came up, he could have buffered a spotdodge and avoided it.

Unless Im mising something......

 

[PEACE7]

Is there any thread explaining how to rar?

 

[Remzi]

while running just begin to turn around and then jump.

 

[PEACE7]

Yea after I posted that I started to get it down lol thanks bro

 

[PEACE7]

Also is this known after you fthrow fsmash tipper Ike thats about 23% you can regrab and fthrow stutter step smash tipper for about 46%.

 

[dean.]

Fthrow stops 'true' combo-ing at about 4-6% depending on the character's knockback resistence (and fthrow's staleness). That would be a mixup, depending on both the Ike's DI and whether or not he airdodges.

On Ike, you can fthrow three times and then use a stutter-step fsmash for 30%, or fthrow them 3 times offstage into a tipped dair for guaranteed damage. If you can land the dair, he's in a very gimpable position - Dolphin Slash stagespike, Counter his Aether, etc.

 

[6Mizu]

Can someone direct me to the thread that has the AT True Pivot?
Link please?

I need to learn it...

Can someone help me with this?

 

[LooftWaffles]

Can someone help me with this?

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162220


Which you could have found by typing "true pivot ssbb" into google. Top of first page.




Did you even look?

 

[_Kadaj_]

We want Anaky back

 

[PEACE7]

Kadaj is wise

 

[earla]

can someone please give me a list of some specific frame perfect things + grab combos + combo strings to practice?

 

[Orion*]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162220


Which you could have found by typing "true pivot ssbb" into google. Top of first page.




Did you even look?

idk how people suck at google so much -.-

 

[Nike.]

LMFAOOOOO at 6Mizu

 

[Yung Mei]

can marth use Counter like, RIGHT AFTER a perfect shield? cuz CPU marth just did that to me, and i didnt even know it could happen that fast, i nearly **** myself at how fast that counter came out D: