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Dodge the bullets!
This is very vague... However you will wiggle the control stick as fast as possible to escape a grab. For a throw?DI away and up?
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Ask a quick question, get a quick answer (The Marth FAQ's)
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vato_break
Smash Master
what can marth do about a underneath the stage shuttleloop?
If he has his jump, airdodge or fall away then go to the ledge. If he doesn't then if he's in range of the ledge try to DS through the SL using invincibility. Uhh, maybe try to beat it out w/ an aerial if he's a god and can time that consistently?
Albert.
Smash Master
He can get his affairs in order and say a final farewell to his loved ones.
Kuro~
Nitoryu Kuro
or be a beast and learn2tech it. <3 teching stage spike shuttle loops
Kuro~
Nitoryu Kuro
in that case do what you said. In the reverse my point stands valid
hey guys, I got several questions for yall :D
1. What's the best momentum cancelling move for horizontal/vertical flights?
2. I've been having problems with the falco match up, in terms of phantasm and lazers help T.T
3. how to do the air release on MK? cause I keep missing...
4. Do people use c-stick for momentum cancelling?
1. What's the best momentum cancelling move for horizontal/vertical flights?
2. I've been having problems with the falco match up, in terms of phantasm and lazers help T.T
3. how to do the air release on MK? cause I keep missing...
4. Do people use c-stick for momentum cancelling?
Nike.
Smash Hero
For every character, the best momentum cancelling move is the fastest one. In marths case that's fair. This is for both vertical and horizontal. I, myself, am guilty of using dair everytime I get up, which is wrong lol.
Lasers.
Perfect Shield - Perfect shielding the lasers is a good way to continue your approach and not get hit. Watch any mikehaze vs falco match, he does it very smartly.
Full hop - This gets you over any short hop lasers Falco will fire. The only thing that could hit you was if he full hopped and fired which, by the time he finished his short hop lasers, wouldn't be able to get in time. It leaves him guessing what your going to do next and it takes away one his his best tools, jab.
Not sure what your asking here. To get him to air release, hold up on the joystick while doing a pummel (otherwise marth just does uthrow).
Actually, tilting the joystick without throwing might work too. You'd need Shaya or Kadaj to confirm that. I just hold up during the pummel.
Fair and Dash attack are the 2 standard moves to use after the air release. They just require timing, which takes practice.
Here: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=235157
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
You don't have to tilt the stick for MK to break in the air.
Since his feet don't touch the ground he will break in the air if you just hold him
Since his feet don't touch the ground he will break in the air if you just hold him
I generally use the c-stick. I can use the control stick for choosing my trajectory (like Up and away from enemy) and the c-tick for busting out the fair for momentum canceling
MARLX
Smash Journeyman
Does marth have a WALL OF PAIN?
PEACE7
Smash Champion
Does anyone have a good training method to get super good at power shielding?
KillLock
Smash Lord
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dean.
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Um no, not in the traditional sense. I guess you could string a couple of fairs together but he's somewhat limited with how far he can go off the stage once he's used his double jump.
Yeah nike...
someone getting air released has nothing to do with the grabber, unless of course they always naturally air release them (Marth always air releases MK unless its on a slope...)
someone getting air released has nothing to do with the grabber, unless of course they always naturally air release them (Marth always air releases MK unless its on a slope...)
Nike.
Smash Hero
I had a brain fart
3 frame leeway to do quite a few bit of inputs.
That 3 frame leeway being shared between dashing, jumping, holding forward, dairing.
If you're doing it in training mode, you'll know you've done it at frame 55 or better if MK gets spiked on stage (as in doesn't bounce up). The latest you can do it is frame 52 (he can't avoid it, but he can uair you at 52).
MARLX
Smash Journeyman
What move do you do for marths boost jump?
Nike.
Smash Hero
I'm in tears
MarlX... most of your questions I have no idea what you're talking about.
PEACE7
Smash Champion
MarlX are you talking about side b?
Nike.
Smash Hero
ZSS zoning with side-b and dsmash. How do you beat those moves?
neutral air dsmash...
side b?
neutral air.
If you counter zss' downsmash she gets the counter jacket hit lag stuff.
Oh but seriously, nair's pretty okay against a predicted dsmash if you're in the air.
Side-B you need to learn to power shield.
Neither of the moves can really be spammed (as in, one after the other), so as long as you shield them and are not 'too close' (i.e. jab/utilt) you are in a reasonably okay position.
side b?
neutral air.
If you counter zss' downsmash she gets the counter jacket hit lag stuff.
Oh but seriously, nair's pretty okay against a predicted dsmash if you're in the air.
Side-B you need to learn to power shield.
Neither of the moves can really be spammed (as in, one after the other), so as long as you shield them and are not 'too close' (i.e. jab/utilt) you are in a reasonably okay position.
Nike.
Smash Hero
I naired 7855657 dsmashes yesterday, works beautifully Shaya.
<3.
I'm proud of you.
Now something that is harder but also very feasible is nairing to beat Lucario's fsmash.
Also works against upwards angled ftilt but that requires uber strict timing of a fast fall.
you have to buffer the dash in the opposite direction and the grab.
you only need to dash grab in the opposite direction fast enough, nothing picky about how long you need to dash for, you just need to do it fast enough.
you only need to dash grab in the opposite direction fast enough, nothing picky about how long you need to dash for, you just need to do it fast enough.
Ares
Smash Journeyman
Wait Shaya, i don't think you can buffer a dash in the opposite direction. This is the reason other characters can't BDACUS the opposite way they are facing.
MMm? You may be right.
Either way, theres a reason why its a hard cg to do.