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Cranky's Lab: Video & Kritique Thread

ardirok

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Hey, I got a few more matches. These are against Vurkyzo, a good Falco player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No6M2LUD5vc&playnext=1&videos=_joVDgZAHk8&feature=mfu_in_order

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pi6c7PW738&playnext=1&videos=n-v1OTroXJc&feature=mfu_in_order

I would be happy if anyone could give some critique.
It is not a good idea to abuse upb in this MU, it is good to use sometimes to punish his sideb...but don´t spam because he can easily SDI out of it and punish you.
I think you should use more ftilt, great range and decent knockback to send him offstage. Don´t be afraid to go offstage against Falco...it is he that must be afraid to face DK huge feet of doom.

Sakurai combo ftw!

Nice matches :)
 

D0N

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Man I don't think anyones ever asked to get their replays recorded... :(
I may soon. I'll try to record what I do this weekend... I forget this was an option lol. Also if you upload my vids and you have the Pimple Battletoads texture, feel free to use that one for me :)
 

Jebu-95

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It is not a good idea to abuse upb in this MU, it is good to use sometimes to punish his sideb...but don´t spam because he can easily SDI out of it and punish you.
I think you should use more ftilt, great range and decent knockback to send him offstage. Don´t be afraid to go offstage against Falco...it is he that must be afraid to face DK huge feet of doom.

Sakurai combo ftw!

Nice matches :)
Thanks to ardirok and MechWarrior. No wonder I keep on doing worse against Falco than against most of the other characters. My worst problem though seems to be those friggen lazors >:( They stop all my air game and when I approach from the ground he just phantasms and resets the situation. Thats what has led to me using Grounded Roflcopter more often.

Yes indeed, Sakurai Combo ftw!
 

Seton

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Aproach with Perfect SHields and fairs and u'll see that Falco is not that hard MU, it's quite even with DK in my opinion.
 

SN Viper

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Aproach with Perfect SHields and fairs and u'll see that Falco is not that hard MU, it's quite even with DK in my opinion.
no way is falco DK close to even if you start to approach with fair you will regret it after he hits you with any of his oos options. and if you wif the fair you get grabbed. P shield is a good approach once in ftilt range throw it out be aware of phantasm cause then you have to start all over. DK v Falco is annoying for dk.
 

¿Qué?

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no way is falco DK close to even if you start to approach with fair you will regret it after he hits you with any of his oos options. and if you wif the fair you get grabbed. P shield is a good approach once in ftilt range throw it out be aware of phantasm cause then you have to start all over. DK v Falco is annoying for dk.
Wtf?

Why would we approach with Fair? We're obv going to come in with Bair...
 

SN Viper

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Wtf?

Why would we approach with Fair? We're obv going to come in with Bair...
you should not approach with fair. bair is generally a good approach with dk but falcos lasers will turn dk around so bair becomes harders to hit. you should still not approach with fair even if you are being lasered.
 

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you should not approach with fair. bair is generally a good approach with dk but falcos lasers will turn dk around so bair becomes harders to hit. you should still not approach with fair even if you are being lasered.
True, but imo it's predictable to see the lasers coming in the air. DK's AD is good enough to get around them.
 

Seton

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no way is falco DK close to even if you start to approach with fair you will regret it after he hits you with any of his oos options. and if you wif the fair you get grabbed. P shield is a good approach once in ftilt range throw it out be aware of phantasm cause then you have to start all over. DK v Falco is annoying for dk.
Dk vs Falco is not that annoying, maybe the MU is a 60-40 in Falco's favor, but if u avoid the grab to Spike, Falco wont kill DK until a high %. I'm acostumed to play great falco's and it's been kinda even our battles. Fair works really good against them and it's kinda easy to predict their recover.
 

Cyphus

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Dk vs Falco is not that annoying, maybe the MU is a 60-40 in Falco's favor, but if u avoid the grab to Spike, Falco wont kill DK until a high %. I'm acostumed to play great falco's and it's been kinda even our battles. Fair works really good against them and it's kinda easy to predict their recover.
i swear to god all of you are trolling me...
 

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I can say the MU is around 45-55 Falco, maybe. Falco is slow and light. We're faster than he is and can still kill early. If you let him laser camp you to 40, that dispels and chance of his Chain Grab> Dair. Honestly, Donkey Kong's strength and longevity compensates for the MU. Falco's kills are predictable, and lasers are not impossible to avoid.
 

D0N

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Matches fom a tourney sunday. I'm doing lots of experimenting with stuff right now so im playing a little different and missing some stuff here and there.

vs sonic

1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-pV0bxNXhg
2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIVRY0g8oUU :denzel:


vs marth
These #s are out of order so heres the order

1 - http://www.youtube.com/user/SatraKien#p/u/4/sOvNcU3kJqg
2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRAomvLS1ew
3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYNkw6RYkTk
4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go6VrFUzwrY :facepalm:
5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ahe_MRoD8c

Dont worry about the order scabe, I couldnt remember it without seeing them.
 

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God.. I really need to practice those ATs..

My DK uses like NO ATs. He's all good reads and reactions.. :|


I WANNA BE COOL LIKE D0N/ OOK/ WILL.
 

Cyphus

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Falco vs DK is like 70-30 its a bad MU

DK has to play smart and falco has to mess up

indeed. at some point you just have to admit falco is a better character - not just 'depending' on a chainthrow and lasers, but they are the icing on the cake. Lasers, jab, phanstasm, and grab utilized harmoniously is just broken. He effortlessly dances around DK safely, forcing mistakes.
 

crifer

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Falco's kills are predictable, and lasers are not impossible to avoid.
You have no idea and I know why. In the USA there is not a single Falco who perfected falco´s bdacus.
You should play against BluB, shdl or dthrow into bdacus is such a huge killing threat it´s not funny. If you´re hit while in the air bdacus is a true combo.
 

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What percent range does it start killing DK at, assuming halfway-decent DI?
 

crifer

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Hey ya DK boards... My friend wants some critique on his DK here are some matches aganist me :3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdcFo1MjEoM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkkyGEOiBTM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq5oIuS4T2A
only watched game 1:
- wayyyy more downB, I´ve not seen a single one and I would say it´s the most important move in the MU.
- don´t get that easy to read, especially if you approach in the air to avoid nades.
- learn the timing of the nades and try to power shield some.
- not approach directly, try to force mistakes.
- more dtilt or ftilt
- punish his stupid b reversals he did every single time he was landing
- juggle him with (cargo) uthrow uair or wait for his landing and grab
 

Wilmenz

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only watched game 1:
- wayyyy more downB, I´ve not seen a single one and I would say it´s the most important move in the MU.
- don´t get that easy to read, especially if you approach in the air to avoid nades.
- learn the timing of the nades and try to power shield some.
- not approach directly, try to force mistakes.
- more dtilt or ftilt
- punish his stupid b reversals he did every single time he was landing
- juggle him with (cargo) uthrow uair or wait for his landing and grab
My B reversals are not stupid bro ._.

Anyway thanks i'll get him to know your message, but try to watch the 2nd and 3rd game, he catched on a few things try to watch the entire set please...
 

Dumbfire

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Problem is that people do this in their own free time.
Trust me, in any critique thread, people ALWAYS only watch 1 game. They just pick game 1 or the opponents character that speaks to them the most. Or they watch the first one to get a feeling and then skip to the last game to see how it ends.
 

crifer

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My B reversals are not stupid bro ._.

Anyway thanks i'll get him to know your message, but try to watch the 2nd and 3rd game, he catched on a few things try to watch the entire set please...
Sorry bro, but if you b reversal every time you land, it is stupid (but hey, if it works.... you may be right.)
 

Wilmenz

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Sorry bro, but if you b reversal every time you land, it is stupid (but hey, if it works.... you may be right.)
Exactly :awesome: if its working why i should stop doing it? However he catched on to it in the 2nd and 3rd game.

I do know that i usually B reversal very often its a habit im trying to take off. Thanks anyway. We are trying to step up our game but its really hard in such a small country like Dominican Republic...
 

Dumbfire

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I like how the platform tilted donw right on the GR, and it became a Ground Release.
Also, thats one of VGBCs SV songs.
 

Hippieslayer

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Hey guys, I am Hippieslayer an swedish donkey kong player. In sweden donkey is 2nd highest tier, he is very strong, but highest tier is ganondorf, he is even stronger and can infuse the power of darkness into his opponent so that the chaos and panic take control. Maybe you think now that this is sort of a joke, but I assure with deepest regard that after you have beholded the video I provide below that then you shall be convinced of the swedish metagame is very powerful and no noob allowd.

In sweden we often do battle on custom stages that are designed by Ingvar Kamprad which are allways 100% fair (not fair as an attack forward in the air lol I mean that they are 0% unjust lol!!). In recent pro swedish tournament I was able to defeat one very storng Ganondorf player called Abcakl I want show U the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLaz7CLcK3g

As you can see this is high lvl play, but nothing is good enough for me, I am constant look for improve. You have any tips yes?

Oh and also in sweden we only play 1 game per each set so that match won for me the tournament and I got 100 swedish kronor and also a fotograf of the swedish monarch Carl gustaf who has long been an avid supporter of the swedish shamsh competitions.

Sorry if I have made an post slightly long. Beware the power of Donkey Kong allways!!! :mad:
 

Jebu-95

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I lolled^^ : D
I think that I'll take the ferry over to Sweden to win some money as well....
 
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