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We might be expecting one, but that wouldn't make the character any less of a surprise, considering most wouldn't be able to figure out which character it would be. Anyone that's not among the most commonly discussed characters could still be surprising.
Yeah, Smash is a fighting game, but it's worth remembering that it's also playing the role of couch multiplayer party game. People go flying with every hit and explode into colorful confetti effects instead of bleeding or recieving visible wounds. Nowadays it's grown a bit more violent, with characters like Ridley and Kazuya getting pretty brutal, but it's still enough to stay within the bounds of E10+ (Which ironically places it lower than what it was in Brawl and I think Melee). Hell, I think Nagoshi once said he'd be up for Kiryu in Smash if given the option, a little before he said he didn't want Kiryu in fighting games. My assumption (which may be wrong) is that he seemed to see Smash as separate from most fighting games, where it comes off more as goofing around versus a violent bareknuckle fight.
IDK, dude. I think that would do fans of certain characters dirty, especially after Sephiroth broke the mold. Smash getting characters like Shadow, Alucard, and Chun-Li shouldn't necessarily discourage the inclusions of characters like Arle, Dante or Bomberman.
Nah, that’s an arbitrary restriction.
Considering the fact that Sephiroth is my favorite Smash character, I’m going to have to disagree with that. Besides my own bias, I just don’t think any kind of hard limitation is necessary. While I do appreciate variety, if a character is popular enough and would make enough people happy if they made it, I don’t think they should be disqualified just because another character from the same game is already in.
Plus arcade/racing/music
Not unless you’re chill with Dante and Bomberman being clones.
Concurring with this point. Ken has enough differences to be charitably called a semiclone, but even then he shares a lot of properties and (I believe) his skeleton with Ryu. And Richter? Aside from a single property change for Holy Water, he's just about as clone-y as they come. Snipping them won't free up many resources, and certainly not enough for a whole new fighter.
I've got just the idea for who that could be:
After what happened with Ultimate in terms of 3rd Party like with Sephiroth, both are options are unlikely. Especially the latter starting from Smash 4's DLC.
Hmmm. On the one hand, it'd be a huge waste, but on the other hand, Dante in heels would be really funny...
The reveal trailer is just the cinematic but when Kiryu looks down instead of a picture of someone close to him its the smash invite or something.
I have an idea of who it could be.
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I think it works best when you don't know you're watching a Smash trailer. You think it's a regular trailer, then BAM! Envelope.
Personally, I was never a fan of the toys-to-life theme. And I feel like Smash would have abandoned it completely if Amiibo hadn't become a thing.
Needs more Pledge Of Demon.
That guy doesn't even work at Sega anymore.
HAHAHAHAHAAA!!
Kirby
If overhauled means "rebuilt from scratch" and not just "change a few moves" then:
Little Mac doesn't need a complete overhaul. He just needs his recovery moves ungimped.
Funfact: Zato-1 is named after Zatoichi("ichi" being Japanese for "one"), a fictional blind swordsman.
Majima needs to be an AT, because Majima Everywhere System.
I'd like Halberd to remain a series staple too, I guess it depends how many stages next game has in the first place but this has always been a very quintessential one to me - and citing it as Meta Knight's defacto home stage is a good justification. I think I'd bring one of Dream Land or Fountain of Dreams back over Green Greens personally, but otherwise it's a pretty nice lineup. Alivel Mall is my choice for a Forgotten Land stage also.
- The Halberd (Kirby Super Star, returning from Brawl)
None of the other stages really fit Meta Knight, Halberd gets to come back.
speak for yourself. I think PP was the last time I was surprised by a character and even then I was more confused than anything else
In all fairness, PP is generally thought to be the suprise character for Ultimate. The same way WFT was the suprise for 4, or ROB the suprise for Brawl. It'll be harder to find a suprise character for 6, since the fanbase is speculating every character under the sun, but Sakurai will think of something. Or maybe the suprise will be that there is no suprise character as we understand the term to mean. It's just a fan rule after all.
That is actually wrong.
Same here. I’m always in support of more diversity in all forms. Not only does diversity give more players a chance to relate to characters but it also just makes the roster more interesting for most everyone else. Other kinds of diversity regarding Smash itself like more villains, antiheroes and unique gameplay mechanics are welcome too.
Yup, that’s what I get for basing my first impression on the opening couple of hours of Like a Dragon (up to the time skip). That’s my only experience with the series and up to that point, everything in it seemed at least somewhat feasible.
) or leaving a spot open for a new character from a revolving door franchise that is later filled in () but these seem to be the exception. More often than not, Sakurai will instead note a character's intrinsic qualities when qualifying why they were added to Smash.
Pretty much. I want the characters I do because I like them as characters. I couldn’t care less what company owns them. I’ve never viewed characters as “reps” of any kind.Thinking of characters as "reps", be it for franchises or companies, seems like it's a poor way to conceive of characters.
Sakurai will occasionally reference thinking of a franchise to include first and then filing in the character later (
Every game seems to draw less and less of a distinction between the first and third parties. IMO, corporate ownership only feels relevant to the extent that licensing costs and a company's general cooperativeness when adding content.
I think a lot of this thinking is primarily inertia from information about Sakurai's thought process was moreso behind a language barrier and a desire for certain series that have been neglected to get characters for their own sake.
Yeah...surprises can also be bad.
I view most characters as "reps" for franchises.
I think in order for a 3P franchise to get multiple Fighters, those other characters need to be especially iconic, like Sephiroth.
Eh, I thought Piranha Plant was funny so I’m cool with it. I honestly like the Mario mooks more than the established characters. That said, I’m also okay if it doesn’t come back. It was a funny character for a game but I’d understand if it’s not really seen as a priority now that the surprise has worn off. Maybe those kinds of characters can be a fun surprise for a game if they’re just left as that?
I think the way you view Like a Dragon might actually make more sense for Shenmue. That series is more grounded in reality (ignoring the ending of the second game).
Yeah, that’s possible. I always viewed the series as something closer to a Grand Theft Auto. I think the realistic graphics and modern setting gave me a false first impression of the franchise. I played through the prologue of Like a Dragon and nothing so far deviated from those impressions. Clearly I was too quick to judge if there are characters that can create shadow clones and summon sharks. Goes to show that you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover. To be clear, I was never trying to make the argument that Yakuza shouldn’t get into Smash, just that characters from a more realistic setting would feel kind of out of place for me. They could always play off that for part of the appeal for those kinds of characters though. Even if it doesn’t really apply to Yakuza, just seeing a normal guy react to all the crazy stuff in Smash could be funny.
I still want a Kingdom Hearts Donald Mii Costume. Call it the “Court Magician” outfit or something to make it all above board video-game-exclusive-content-wise but real Duckheads will know.Is there any character you'd like to see in the game, but not necessarily in a playable capacity? Be it as a Mii Costume or Assist Trophy.
I'd love to see a Viewtiful Joe Mii Costume, I think his proportions are perfect for it.
For me, if I like a character, I’ll always prefer them to be playable. However, I realize that’s not always going to be possible so there are several characters I’d settle for an Assist Trophy for if that’s all I can get. If we get Jinx as a playable character, I’d be more than happy to see Vi make it in as an assist that plays similarly to Little Mac’s Brawl Assist Trophy.Is there any character you'd like to see in the game, but not necessarily in a playable capacity? Be it as a Mii Costume or Assist Trophy.
I'd love to see a Viewtiful Joe Mii Costume, I think his proportions are perfect for it.
I still think Red Arremer and Opa Opa are perfect AT material
I think this is THE perfect character to be added as a mii brawler outfitIs there any character you'd like to see in the game, but not necessarily in a playable capacity? Be it as a Mii Costume or Assist Trophy.
I'd love to see a Viewtiful Joe Mii Costume, I think his proportions are perfect for it.
