Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Depressed Gengar]

Greninja is the best Lord.

 

[Bowserlick]

Ness for Wednesday, Jiggs for Thursday, Captain Falcon for Friday. Yoshi can be saved for whenever his games come out.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I can understand Gourgeist being a good tank. Most try and use Leech Seed First turn (Bad Idea.) and then I get one dance down and murder them. Then again, there's a reason I run Lum berry on occaision for my Haxorus, Caesar. Goodra is a good special defender that is Dragon, good if you want something that can hit as well as be bulky.

Not to mention every physical hit against it lowers the opponent's speed, which is helpful. I also don't recommend ever using Chesnaught, as Talonflames are everywhere and that 4x weakness to flying makes it easily the worst Kalos starter competitively. And no, Delphox is not a bad pokemon.

-Yeah, which is why I was considering Ferrothorn or Skarmory since they resist them. In that case, should I go with Haxorus or try one of the other dragons?
-Gourgeist can be a tank? I always hear about Trevenant being used as one before but never him. I'll look into him and Mawile because I'm also looking into other Megas.



Yep, the frog ninja shall conquer you all!

Yes, Gourgeist has a very good move-pool and stats to pull off an offensive tank, especialy super-sized. As for Trevenant, its got really average stats aside from attack and is slow, so it's not really that good a pokemon. Also, for Greninja, it's so easy to defeat nowadays as everyone just uses Fling + Acrobatics.

 

[YoshiandToad]

Ness for Wednesday, Jiggs for Thursday, Captain Falcon for Friday. Yoshi can be saved for whenever his games come out.

Looking forward to this proposed WedNessday.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

What is the name of the afro american dude on other m? I think that he is a possibility since he is the only nintendo char that is a black man.

I know I am late to respond to this but,

Reggie begs to differ.

Though I would LOVE Anthony Higgs!

 

[TheLastJinjo]

In regards to screen time, the main protagonist is kind of immune don't you think?

Then so is the main antagonist.

You can't really equate Falcons screen time to Gorohs since Falcon is the face of F-Zero. He has infinite screen time.

Samurai Goroh is on every box cover that Captain Falcon is on.

You would be hard pressed to find characters that aren't iconic in Brawl

as the entire roster is pretty spot on with the All-Stars. Maybe you could argue Ike and Lucario but both of those characters are from way more popular series than F-Zero. They both also feature prominent roles in their respective games, something Goroh never has

Well then I guess Wolf didn't either. Also I'm pretty sure EarthBound wasn't nearly as popular as those franchises.

The difference between Donkey Kong and F-Zero is relevance, popularity, longevity and more importantly the fact that those characters are either always playable as themselves

Over and under representation is still a thing Sakurai takes into consideration you know.

 

[YoshiandToad]

I know I am late to respond to this but,

Reggie begs to differ.

Not a character.

I mean he's a character alright, but not in the traditional sense.

 

[josh bones]

Mr game and watch.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Soooo....

How about Prince from Katamari Demacy?

I want to make a thread for him (a serious thread), but I just made one for Wart yesterday.
Though I love both of them equally.
#contemplating

Not a character.

I mean he's a character alright, but not in the traditional sense.

Yes, but he is an eligible Smash Newcomer.
#mybodyisready

 

[Tekken_Guy]

Hey. I made a 50 character roster, check it out!

1. Bowser
2. Captain Falcon
3. Chrom
4. Diddy Kong
5. Donkey Kong
6. Falco
7. Fox
8. Ganondorf
9. Ice Climbers
10. Ike
11. Isaac
12. Jigglypuff
13. King Dedede
14. King K. Rool
15. Kirby
16. Link
17. Little Mac
18. Lucario
19. Lucas
20. Luigi
21. Mario
22. Marth
23. Mega Man
24. Meta Knight
25. Mewtwo
26. Mii
27. Mr. Game & Watch
28. Ness
29. Olimar
30. Pac-Man
31. Palutena
32. Peach
33. Pikachu
34. Pit
35. Pokemon Trainer
36. Ridley
37. R.O.B.
38. Rosalina
39. Samus
40. Shulk
41. Snake
42. Sonic
43. Takamaru
44. Toon Link
45. Villager
46. Wario
47. Wii Fit Trainer
48. Wolf
49. Yoshi
50. Zelda

 

[Gunla]

Not to mention every physical hit against it lowers the opponent's speed, which is helpful. I also don't recommend ever using Chesnaught, as Talonflames are everywhere and that 4x weakness to flying makes it easily the worst Kalos starter competitively. And no, Delphox is not a bad pokemon.

Yes, Gourgeist has a very good move-pool and stats to pull off an offensive tank, especialy super-sized. As for Trevenant, its got really average stats aside from attack and is slow, so it's not really that good a pokemon. Also, for Greninja, it's so easy to defeat nowadays as everyone just uses Fling + Acrobatics.

I use a special Greninja. Seriously, no one ever sees it coming. I'm really shocked people use Physical G-Ninja. Yes, Shadow Sneak is nifty, but it's not really too helpful for me.
Delphox is good!

 

[Morbi]

Hey. I made a 50 character roster, check it out!

1. Bowser
2. Captain Falcon
3. Chrom
4. Diddy Kong
5. Donkey Kong
6. Falco
7. Fox
8. Ganondorf
9. Ice Climbers
10. Ike
11. Isaac
12. Jigglypuff
13. King Dedede
14. King K. Rool
15. Kirby
16. Link
17. Little Mac
18. Lucario
19. Lucas
20. Luigi
21. Mario
22. Marth
23. Mega Man
24. Meta Knight
25. Mewtwo
26. Mii
27. Mr. Game & Watch
28. Ness
29. Olimar
30. Pac-Man
31. Palutena
32. Peach
33. Pikachu
34. Pit
35. Pokemon Trainer
36. Ridley
37. R.O.B.
38. Rosalina
39. Samus
40. Shulk
41. Snake
42. Sonic
43. Takamaru
44. Toon Link
45. Villager
46. Wario
47. Wii Fit Trainer
48. Wolf
49. Yoshi
50. Zelda

I can't believe you alphabetized the list. That is so swag.

 

[SchAlternate]

What about Black Ginger? (Ganondorf)

 

[BluePikmin11]

Soooo....

How about Prince from Katamari Demacy?
View attachment 6950

I want to make a thread for him (a serious thread), but I just made one for Wart yesterday.
Though I love both of them equally.
#contemplating


Yes, but he is an eligible Smash Newcomer.
#mybodyisready

Would rather have Pac-Man than the Prince.
If Namco Bandai were to choose, it would definitely be the Pacster and not the sticky ball prince.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

It's hard to critique a text based roster for so many reasons.

 

[UltimateWario]

Chrom

Urrrrrrrrgh, another good roster mired by this guy.

Look, can we just start accepting Robin as the catch-all Awakening rep??

 

[Arcanir]

Yes, Gourgeist has a very good move-pool and stats to pull off an offensive tank, especialy super-sized. As for Trevenant, its got really average stats aside from attack and is slow, so it's not really that good a pokemon. Also, for Greninja, it's so easy to defeat nowadays as everyone just uses Fling + Acrobatics.

Why is Fling + Acrobatics popular now?

Regardless, thanks for the advice! I'll start breeding Gourgeist as soon as I get back to the game (btw, which size is best for it?). I'll try to figure out the last two members later once I narrow it down.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Would rather have Pac-Man than the Prince.
If Namco Bandai were to choose, it would definitely be the Pacster and not the sticky ball prince.

Thinking about it, the Prince would make a cool assist (what he would do is obvious)!
Though I still want him playable

 

[YoshiandToad]

Or for actual black male characters you got Grant:

Spoiler

Prepare to get rocked.


If we're talking black girls we got Lenora and the more important Iris. Who actually could be a cool dragon trainer.

Yes, but he is an eligible Smash Newcomer.
#mybodyisready

I prefer Wart. I think most here would prefer Wart. I think Reggie himself would prefer Wart rather than getting the **** kicked out of him repeatedly and being an endless meme.

#nobodyisready

Edit; Jeez that pic was huge. Spoiler tagging it.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Urrrrrrrrgh, another good roster mired by this guy.

Look, can we just start accepting Robin as the catch-all Awakening rep??

"HOW ABOUT NO.."

 

[UltimateWario]

"NO.."

Well, catch-all reps must actually have a chance.

 

[Gunla]

@ Hotfeet444 @ Arcanir
So... apparantly Infernape is a thing again... or so my latest ventures into online revealed to me.
I picked an Iron First one up. Thoughts?

"NO.."

It's just not the same. You gotta put a "HOW ABOUT NO." on that Anna.

 

[Morbi]

It's hard to critique a text based roster for so many reasons.

That is exactly why I never released a roster yet. I don't have the roster maker, and I don't really intend on downloading it.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Wouldn't totally hate Anna, but I'd rather play as Lyn or Roy

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

For Black females we have mammy...

I mean Lenora

Good Job Japan!

 

[YoshiandToad]

For Black females we have mammy...

I mean Lenora

Good Job Japan!

 

[UltimateWario]

In the Pokemon World, even mammies are bangable.

Seriously, does every character have to be physically attractive?

 

[TheLastJinjo]

It's just not the same. You gotta put a "HOW ABOUT NO." on that Anna.

A simple "No" implies you are much more dead serious

 

[Gunla]

@ BluePikmin11
Enjoy.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Um, why is Fling + Acrobatics popular?

Regardless, thanks for the advice! I'll start breeding Gourgeist as soon as I get back to the game (btw, which size is best for it?). I'll try to figure out the last two members later once I narrow it down.

They use Fling to throw out a King's Rock, get STAB on it thanks to Protean, the opponent flinches, and Acrobatics gets max damage + STAB which is really deadly.

As for Gourgeist, the best size is Super Size, which is the slowest but gives it an attack stat of 100, which is pretty good.

I use a special Greninja. Seriously, no one ever sees it coming. I'm really shocked people use Physical G-Ninja. Yes, Shadow Sneak is nifty, but it's not really too helpful for me.
Delphox is good!

I gave my Greninja a couple of special moves too, like Toxic Spikes, to trick up and set-up on opponents. And you have to be one of the first people I've seen to say that about Delphox, everyone else just calls it garbage while denying the thing is easily one of the best set-up pokemon out there, being able to set up both Will-O-Wisp and Future Sight, and it can cripple special attackers with Mystical Fire. In my opinion, every Kalos starter is at least decent at a different stat. Chesnaught is the best tank with Leech Seed and Spiky Shield Combos, Delphox sets up the best with Future Sight and Will O Wisp as well as crippling special attackers, and Greninja is the best offensively with quick speed and Protean.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

In the Pokemon World, even mammies are bangable.

Seriously, does every character have to be physically attractive?

 

[andimidna]

Hey. I made a 50 character roster, check it out!

1. Bowser
2. Captain Falcon
3. Chrom
4. Diddy Kong
5. Donkey Kong
6. Falco
7. Fox
8. Ganondorf
9. Ice Climbers
10. Ike
11. Isaac
12. Jigglypuff
13. King Dedede
14. King K. Rool
15. Kirby
16. Link
17. Little Mac
18. Lucario
19. Lucas
20. Luigi
21. Mario
22. Marth
23. Mega Man
24. Meta Knight
25. Mewtwo
26. Mii
27. Mr. Game & Watch
28. Ness
29. Olimar
30. Pac-Man
31. Palutena
32. Peach
33. Pikachu
34. Pit
35. Pokemon Trainer
36. Ridley
37. R.O.B.
38. Rosalina
39. Samus
40. Shulk
41. Snake
42. Sonic
43. Takamaru
44. Toon Link
45. Villager
46. Wario
47. Wii Fit Trainer
48. Wolf
49. Yoshi
50. Zelda

I feel like this is a very weird thing to say... but this list seems too safe. Too realistic. The characters that stand out are the ones confirmed. Not a fan of miis, but everything on here is very deserving. But is also very... guessable.

 

[SuperNintendoDisney]

Then so is the main antagonist.


Samurai Goroh is on every box cover that Captain Falcon is on.





Well then I guess Wolf didn't either. Also I'm pretty sure EarthBound wasn't nearly as popular as those franchises.


Over and under representation is still a thing Sakurai takes into consideration you know.

First of all, you kind of ignored me when I asked nicely not to do that, it ruins the overall focus of a response. You continue to do it

Second, its debatable whether or not Samurai Goroh is truly the main protagonist of F-Zero, especially with the amount the more recent games such as GX and the GBA games, but I get the feeling you have never played any of those. Plus, you totally ignored my point about Falcon being "the face of F-Zero", its irrelevant whether or not Goroh is on the box. Do you think Zelda is the face of The Legend of Zelda, or is Link? Are you even paying attention

R.O.B and Game & Watch not iconic...? They both had their own hardware dedicated to them, they are extremely important figures of Nintendo's past... what a weird thing to say. Ice Climbers and Pit, again, are representing their own game, they are retro characters who are from a huge vault of classic Nintendo properties. If you know the story of Lucas replacing Ness in Melee, you would understand why he is in but again... He is the main character of his own game. Its really weird I have to explain this

The weirdest thing about your response though, is saying Wolf never had a prominent role in a Star Fox game. Have you played Star Fox 64, Star Fox Assault or Star Fox Command? Wolf was even considered for the original Smash Bros., along with Bowser, Dedede and Mewtwo.

I don't think Sakurai ever considered over/under representation as demonstrated by Melee. Either way, you are quickly turning this into a nitpicking at straws kind of discussion and I highly anticipate you to quote one or two sentences I wrote here and reply with one sentence responses. Its juvenile

 

[Gunla]

I gave my Greninja a couple of special moves too, like Toxic Spikes, to trick up and set-up on opponents. And you have to be one of the first people I've seen to say that about Delphox, everyone else just calls it garbage while denying the thing is easily one of the best set-up pokemon out there, being able to set up both Will-O-Wisp and Future Sight, and it can cripple special attackers with Mystical Fire. In my opinion, every Kalos starter is at least decent at a different stat. Chesnaught is the best tank with Leech Seed and Spiky Shield Combos, Delphox sets up the best with Future Sight and Will O Wisp as well as crippling special attackers, and Greninja is the best offensively with quick speed and Protean.

Seriously, Magician Delphox is really fun to play. In fact, Blaze is too!
Like, I'm able to outspeed most other G-Ninja because I run a Timid Set with Life Orb.
And King's Rock + Fling is lame, they should play Life Orb instead!

 

[Morbi]

First of all, you kind of ignored me when I asked nicely not to do that, it ruins the overall focus of a response. You continue to do it

Second, its debatable whether or not Samurai Goroh is truly the main protagonist of F-Zero, especially with the amount the more recent games such as GX and the GBA games, but I get the feeling you have never played any of those. Plus, you totally ignored my point about Falcon being "the face of F-Zero", its irrelevant whether or not Goroh is on the box. Do you think Zelda is the face of The Legend of Zelda, or is Link? Are you even paying attention

R.O.B and Game & Watch not iconic...? They both had their own hardware dedicated to them, they are extremely important figures of Nintendo's past... what a weird thing to say. Ice Climbers and Pit, again, are representing their own game, they are retro characters who are from a huge vault of classic Nintendo properties. If you know the story of Lucas replacing Ness in Melee, you would understand why he is in but again... He is the main character of his own game. Its really weird I have to explain this

The weirdest thing about your response though, is saying Wolf never had a prominent role in a Star Fox game. Have you played Star Fox 64, Star Fox Assault or Star Fox Command? Wolf was even considered for the original Smash Bros., along with Bowser, Dedede and Mewtwo.

I don't think Sakurai ever considered over/under representation as demonstrated by Melee. Either way, you are quickly turning this into a nitpicking at straws kind of discussion and I highly anticipate you to quote one or two sentences I wrote here and reply with one sentence responses. Its juvenile

You have a lot of audacity asking someone to type differently; however, I am fairly certain that he does it to ensure that he addresses every point. He doesn't always post like that, it is usually reserved for other responses. Asking "nicely" is irrelevant, he doesn't have to conform to your preferences.

 

[josh bones]

Wolf was even considered for the original Smash Bros., along with Bowser, Dedede and Mewtwo.

Source?

 

[UltimateWario]

Is SuperNintendoDisney arguing with Saturn?

That's a long road to nowhere, pal.

 

[Gunla]

Wolf was even considered for the original Smash Bros., along with Bowser, Dedede and Mewtwo.

I remember Dedede, Bowser and Mewtwo. Nothing about Wolf was said regarding Smash 64 as far as I remember.

 

[Hotfeet444]

@ Hotfeet444 @ Arcanir
So... apparantly Infernape is a thing again... or so my latest ventures into online revealed to me.
I picked an Iron First one up. Thoughts?


It's just not the same. You gotta put a "HOW ABOUT NO." on that Anna.

With so many Greninjas around online, I'm literally surprised anyone is brave enough to use one, considering Greninja is much faster and could take it out with a protean Acrobatics or Surf and is almost an equal to it in special attack and is still a decent attacker.

 

[Morbi]

Source?

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