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[The Merc]

Melee Fox doesn't require skill to be effective.

Melee Fox allows for a great skill difference.

Know the difference.

Uh... not sure of the difference

But still, he does require some skill to be used effectively.

Sure you can can just play Fox normal without any techs and stuff and still be good, no worries

But you do need some skills with Fox to actually be good

Fox isn't a straight forward character

 

[LancerStaff]

Easy to play, difficult to master.

TBH Melee Fox is incredibly overpowered at any level of play. The only major thing that makes him more technical then the next guy, assuming equal skill otherwise, is the silly jumpsquat that makes shorthops a two-frame trick. See, stuff like this is why I don't think Melee was well designed.

Top level play is only absurdly technical because it's top level play. It's like calling OoT technical because when you want to beat it in ten minutes it requires a bunch of difficult glitches.

 

[The Merc]

True true.

I like Melee, it's fun to play (though mostly because Young Link is in it)

But your right, not matter the praise, it's just unfair the balance and how players are generally force to play top tier characters. It just sucks

Also, no option to turn off tap jump

 

[LancerStaff]

Somebody pulled the data off the servers and it looks like Bayonetta's the only character getting changes, all nerfs too.

Makes my job easier lol.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Somebody pulled the data off the servers and it looks like Bayonetta's the only character getting changes, all nerfs too.

Makes my job easier lol.

Well that ruins everything for something I guess

 

[CHOMPY]

Who can teach me how to abuse the frame data because I read it and still find it to be foreign.

 

[LancerStaff]

Who can teach me how to abuse the frame data because I read it and still find it to be foreign.

Like what exactly, punishes and stuff? That's something you need to feel more then know, especially in Smash because you're almost never going to be face-to-face like in traditional fighting games.

Pit's ground punishes range from f5 to f10 (f20 with an Arm and the second hit of D/Fsmash) so it's not like you need to be very picky, besides Usmash for obvious reasons. To me if you're sticking to the ground it's using the move with the most damage/potential damage/killing potential then anything, so mostly grabs and dash grabs.

If you're going for a flashier air combo though, that's tricky because Pit's aerials typically come out slower, his air speed is poor, and jumpsquat is always an extra 5 frames of start-up. The fastest Pit can put out an aerial hitbox from the ground is f9, Nair. (Fastest anybody can is f8 besides Mac's f2 Nair I think.) Dair would be f15 in the back, f16 up front.

 

[CHOMPY]

Like with hitstun, how many frames would they be in hitstun from an attack. For example, like I've always wandered why I was able to do a dthrow>dair>nair at lower percentages.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Guess there was a patch after all

 

[LancerStaff]

Like with hitstun, how many frames would they be in hitstun from an attack. For example, like I've always wandered why I was able to do a dthrow>dair>nair at lower percentages.

Well there's this: http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Calculator

Haven't had the chance to mess around with it but from what I've heard it's accurate.

 

[LancerStaff]

Meh... Head hurts, eyes drooping... Not going to seriously test the patch tonight. Nothing noticeable anyway...

Report all potential changes placebo to me and I'll be sure to test 'em out tomorrow. Pretty sure Kurogane said the data we got yesterday was all that was in the update, so it's probably nothing.

 

[FiXalaS]

As time moves on, I dislike fair more and more.

 

[NoLoudNoise]

How early could electroshock kill with rage?

I'm sure this is not new but I killed a ZSS at 49 damage with 129%. It was the very end of the ledge though, like normal ledge getup

 

[LancerStaff]

Sounds about right lol.

 

[The Merc]

How early could electroshock kill with rage?

I'm sure this is not new but I killed a ZSS at 49 damage with 129%. It was the very end of the ledge though, like normal ledge getup

Plz buff UpperDash Arm Sakurai

As time moves on, I dislike fair more and more.

Okay cool

Well just keep using it then.

 

[FiXalaS]

of course..

I use everything always except utilt, only used when... it's used.

I miss brawl's fair & bair. I'm sorry if I shouldn't.

 

[Sensane]

Its okay; I say good riddance Brawl Pit; you weren't even that good.

 

[Chobani007]

Hi all, this is 3F, I've been lurking around for some time, but I figured I'd drop by and say hi!

 

[The Merc]

of course..

I use everything always except utilt, only used when... it's used.

I miss brawl's fair & bair. I'm sorry if I shouldn't.

Eh, i prefer his new Fair (just wish it had a bit less endlag) Though I heard his old bair had more kill power, so that wouldn't be to bad

Hi all, this is 3F, I've been lurking around for some time, but I figured I'd drop by and say hi!

Who?

 

[Koiba]

How early could electroshock kill with rage?

I'm sure this is not new but I killed a ZSS at 49 damage with 129%. It was the very end of the ledge though, like normal ledge getup

Dark Pit can kill Puff at 0% at the ledge with max rage while she's charging a smash attack



Which will never happen but oh well :^)

Hi all, this is 3F, I've been lurking around for some time, but I figured I'd drop by and say hi!

Hello~!

 

[Sensane]

Hi all, this is 3F, I've been lurking around for some time, but I figured I'd drop by and say hi!

Never heard of you.

 

[Chobani007]

Who?

Never heard of you.

Hi there! This is reason why I'm introducing myself. Is there a different thread where I should have done this?

 

[The Merc]

Hi there! This is reason why I'm introducing myself. Is there a different thread where I should have done this?

No, here is fine.

Just you said that you were someone else, so that's what lead to the confusion

 

[Chobani007]

No, here is fine.

Just you said that you were someone else, so that's what lead to the confusion

Oh, my bad, I didn't even think about it, and I see how it can be confusing (3F is my tag everywhere else).

 

[Sensane]

Oh, my bad, I didn't even think about it, and I see how it can be confusing (3F is my tag everywhere else).

3F is also a Brawlex character file.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

When's EVO?

 

[Sensane]

When's EVO?

July 15-17

 

[TMNTSSB4]

July 15-17

Thanks

 

[Strider_123]

anyone up for some mirror matches?

 

[NoLoudNoise]

I can do some this weekend

 

[CHOMPY]

Take a gander of the artwork!

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Take a gander of the artwork!

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#TakingCreditForArtWork

 

[CHOMPY]

No but I had someone photoshop it and he added also added the leaves to give off the cool special effects.

 

[Koiba]

Take a gander of the artwork!

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That first one is super cute~
Is he holding a donut?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I must pull a Doc Ock on you all

 

[CHOMPY]

That first one is super cute~
Is he holding a donut?

It is a donut. Just like in the Kid Icarus Uprising game when he picks up the donut from the ground! xD

 

[Sensane]

Inb4 floor donuts give you health.

 

[Strider_123]

Take a gander of the artwork!

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Hi Chompy! lets battle again! That picture is adorable! not as cute as my cupid pit avatar tho

 

[Sensane]

Oh hey CHOMPY I followed you on twitter. So, follow me back? Maybe? Pit mains forever, right?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Inb4 floor donuts give you health.

But they do