Sonic

[APC99]

 

[SonicMario]

Don't mean to be a pain. But can I please have the exact timeframe where it mentions SSB4? I don't have time to search through a 33 minute video.

 

[APC99]

Don't mean to be a pain. But can I please have the exact timeframe where it mentions SSB4? I don't have time to search through a 33 minute video.

I honestly don't know, legendofrob1 knows what point it's at, I believe. But I'll try to re-watch it tonight.

 

[Starcutter]

Ahem. I said they showed sonic at gamescon.

but what I meant is that they showed off sonic lost world. sorry guys.

 

[APC99]

Ahem. I said they showed sonic at gamescon.

but what I meant is that they showed off sonic lost world. sorry guys.

You got me all happy, legendofrob1. YOU'RE DEAD TO ME!

 

[SonicMario]

Ahem. I said they showed sonic at gamescon.

but what I meant is that they showed off sonic lost world. sorry guys.

Ah alright xP It's fine.

Just seems weird that you mentioned Sonic Lost World in the Ridley for SSB4 thread if nothing related to SSB4 was said in the vid. Showing off gameplay footage of a game isn't exactly the same as revealing a character in a game after all.

Still wanted to make sure before I got hootin' and hollerin' that he's back. I'm sure he will be in the game still, though I've said before I'd like to know for certain as soon as possible.

 

[Starcutter]

Ah alright xP It's fine.

Just seems weird that you mentioned Sonic Lost World in the Ridley for SSB4 thread if nothing related to SSB4 was said in the vid. Showing off gameplay footage of a game isn't exactly the same as revealing a character in a game after all.

Still wanted to make sure before I got hootin' and hollerin' that he's back. I'm sure he will be in the game still, though I've said before I'd like to know for certain as soon as possible.

I was saying that they were showing off wii U stuff, suggesting nintendo COULD be next with ridley.

if sonic got confirmed, I'd probably bring it here XD

 

[APC99]

I was saying that they were showing off wii U stuff, suggesting nintendo COULD be next with ridley.

if sonic got confirmed, I'd probably bring it here XD

I'm joking with you, legendofrob. I couldn't be upset with you. You made a pee joke on the Ridley thread. You have APC cred.

 

[BaPr]

Please link that, I need to see it.

 

[Starcutter]

I posted this:

Is that what you are asking for?

 

[Espy Rose]

I didn't hear anything related to SSB4 in that video.
And I should probably refresh after sitting here for 20 minutes before I post next time.

 

[BaPr]

I think Sonic will get moves based off of Lost worlds. Maybe when he dashes, it will be the same animation as his dashing in Lost Worlds. Also, the Wind Kick seems like another move. I hope Tails makes it, but if he doesn't, he could be sonic's recovery.

When in the air, Tails appears and pulls you upwards while flying, and then gets tired later on. When sonic is using Tails, you use the Circle Pad to move around, and if you want to jump off, you press the attack button and you jump off. When on the ground, Tails throws you in the air which sends you slightly forward, like in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=AEWwYUrDzi0#t=47

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I thought at first where's eggman then I looked it up in wiki and nevermind he is on the game but this time for the first time in history eggman and sonic co-op that doesn't included vs metal madness

 

[BaPr]

I thought at first where's eggman then I looked it up in wiki and nevermind he is on the game but this time for the first time in history eggman and sonic co-op that doesn't included vs metal madness

He also teamed up with Eggman in Sonic Advance 3.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

I thought at first where's eggman then I looked it up in wiki and nevermind he is on the game but this time for the first time in history eggman and sonic co-op that doesn't included vs metal madness

Sonic Adventure 2, they team up at the very end of that.

 

[Toon link04]

I think he should stay since he was a highly requested 3rd peaty character

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I think he should stay since he was a highly requested 3rd peaty character

I woulden't be surprised if sonic got confirmed again I mean he was the most requested character of all time besides ridley

 

[Jedisupersonic]

I woulden't be surprised if sonic got confirmed again I mean he was the most requested character of all time besides ridley

I also don't see Sakurai introducing the whole Mario vs Sonic thing people have wanted to see for years [in something not the Olympics] and then just taking it out.

 

[BladerDaBrawler]

Things Sonic needs in SSB4!

#1 His homing attack should at least 2.45 times faster.
#2 A different Side Special.
#3 Much more KO power, I have to rely on stealing KOs and items when I use Sonic.
#4 Maybe a counter? He can sense danger with his quills, so he should be able to counter it.

 

[Toon link04]

Things Sonic needs in SSB4!

#1 His homing attack should at least 2.45 times faster.
#2 A different Side Special.
#3 Much more KO power, I have to rely on stealing KOs and items when I use Sonic.
#4 Maybe a counter? He can sense danger with his quills, so he should be able to counter it.

I really dont like the "counter" idea since one of the reasons I hate characters that have counters is beacause it can easaly be used as a spam move much like Ike's down B counter and Pit's foward B angel ring and his homing attack should be like Project M's in were it dosent curve and its faster and so those are all the changes I would make to sonic ohh and more killing power insted of just hit and run tactics

 

[BladerDaBrawler]

I like Shadow n all but Im afriad he'll be a clone. Thats really my only problem with him. Atleast when you add Tails you add another flying character with MetaKnight and Pit. With Eggman you add another major antagonist(like Bowser Status). If he's possibly in some sort of mech he would be a heavy weight like Gannon and Bowser.

Sure Shadow could have a some what unique moveset with the chaos emerald but I still not sure how much of a different move set he would have....

Shadow would definitely have at least one projectile, Chaos Spear, he'd be more powerful than Sonic, but more lag. His Final Smash would be the same, but he would definitely be way different. Look at Mario and Luigi, in the Mario Bros. games, they are exactly the same. But in Smash, they're totally different! I could see them being two very different characters, but that's just my opinion.

I really dont like the "counter" idea since one of the reasons I hate characters that have counters is beacause it can easaly be used as a spam move much like Ike's down B counter and Pit's foward B angel ring and his homing attack should be like Project M's in were it dosent curve and its faster and so those are all the changes I would make to sonic ohh and more killing power insted of just hit and run tactics

He definitely needs more KO power, I agree with you on that, but he needs a counter, I don't understand why Ike got one and the lighter characters didn't, but that's just my opinion.

My favorite soundtracks of all time are from Sonic games, Knight of the Wind, Escape from the City (Modern Remix), Fight the Knight, Reach for the Stars, His World, etc. So I would definitely put some of those in SSB4.

 

[Kon]

I hope Sonic will come back in SSB4. It would be cool to see Megaman vs Sonic ;D
Also, I hope for a few changes on Sonic's moveset

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I hope Sonic will come back in SSB4. It would be cool to see Megaman vs Sonic ;D
Also, I hope for a few changes on Sonic's moveset

Its pretty likly simce he was the most requested character in brawl even though hes third partie

 

[BaPr]

If Sonic makes it in, I hope Pacman does too. Just so I can have the battle of the icons, or iconic characters, or whatever it's called.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

Does anyone else kinda wanna see the Were-hog make an appearance in his moveset?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Does anyone else kinda wanna see the Were-hog make an appearance in his moveset?

Not really. If they make a Dahlsim type character I'm sure there's better candidates. Can't think of any though. I'd like to see him as a trophy though.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

Not really. If they make a Dahlsim type character I'm sure there's better candidates. Can't think of any though. I'd like to see him as a trophy though.

I'd want to see them make Spin Charge and Dash one move, as a Side B, then maybe Down-B transform.

 

[Altais]

I would like to see Sonic return in Super Smash Bros. U/3D, though I am not going to get mine hopes up. If he is in the game, I could really see Sakurai revealing him upon the release of Sonic: Lost World.

I really liked Sonic's playstyle in Brawl, though I would like to see his side special move changed. I liked some of the user JOE!'s ideas, particularly the side-special (Sonic Boost), the down-tilt (Sonic Slide), the neurtral aerial (Wind Shield), and the downward aerial (Stomp). I would also like Sonic's homing attack to have a speed boost.

Sonic's KO power in Brawl was not that bad, in mine opinion. There were a few moves that, if used strategically, could easily KO opponents at high percentages. It was not like Pit, whose KO strategy truly involved building up very high damage and using the right move at the right time. If we give Sonic too much brute power, he could easily end up being another Meta Knight. I, for one, would prefer Sonic to keep his speedy, mind-games playstyle. [Shrugs] That being said, to each his/her own.

 

[ryuu seika]

I'd want to see them make Spin Charge and Dash one move, as a Side B, then maybe Down-B transform.

NO.
Spin Dash has always been hold down and hold/mash a button. That should not change for smash.

 

[Espy Rose]

You new generation Sonic fans need to do your Smash homework.
Spin Dash has always been sideB.
Spin CHARGE is when you hold down and mash a button.

Spin Dash never required mashing of buttons in anything post S&K.

Before that time, it was called Super Dash Attack. Running then holding down was the Super Spin Attack.

 

[BlitznBurst]

At first I was hopeful for a Sonic reveal in October because of Lost World

Then I remembered Pokémon X and Y... ;_;

 

[SonicMario]

At first I was hopeful for a Sonic reveal in October because of Lost World

Then I remembered Pokémon X and Y... ;_;

Nothing has entirely said we can't get two characters in one month. Even then it's possible Sonic could be in November instead because of M&S Olympics 4

As a side note, Peach now has a Ribbon go along with her up-smash. I don't remember a ribbon being used my Peach in alot of other games besides in the Mario & Sonic Olympics games for the Ribbon Twirl event. Could they actually have borrowed something from a game that Nintendo only has supervised? Because for the most part it was Sega that made the Olympic Games. The Olympic Games series is one of the biggest reasons why Sonic's likely to return. As it doesn't make much sense to continue making the series where Sonic characters are playing sports with Nintendo's flagship franchise and have it be such a big money maker and not have Sonic return in SSB4 to milk that same crowd that loves buying the capability of having Mario Vs. Sonic. But I never thought of the possibility that they'd reference it even subtly in a character's moveset.

 

[CardiganBoy]

Sonic will return, since Nintendo and Sega have a partnership in wich they will release 3 Sonic games only for Nintendo consoles, Sonic Lost Worlds being the first one.

 

[Ryan.]

I'd like Sonic for return. Although his side special and down special seemed too similar for me, I hope one of them changes if he makes it back.

 

[Phan7om]

Sonic's coming back, but I think he wont be as different as people think hes going to be. Side-B or Down-B might be replaced with something but everything else, moveset wise, will stay the same.

 

[SonicMario]

I believe there's four likely reveal places for Sonic

1. October 24th 2013 - Japanese Release Date for Sonic Lost World
2. November 8th 2013 - Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2014's release
3. June 10-12th 2014 - E3 2014 (Sonic being revealed as a popular returnee would provide hype)
4. June 17th-19th 2014 - Sega @ Licensing Expo (They're announcing new games, and surprises such as a likely new Sonic show. If somehow Sonic isn't revealed in the past 3, then it's possible it could be here)

Granted Sakurai could pull what he did with Peach and surprise us (Granted I may have heard it was for the anniversery of Super Mario Bros.?) But yes. I'd be extremely nervous if we still don't know Sonic close to the time the full roster is leaked (AKA SSB4's release date in whichever country gets it first). I would think they would show that one of the most popular additions to the series is coming back before the game's release.

 

[ENCOREY]

I would love Sonic to be back. I remember Sakurai saying there will be no 3rd party characters in the next smash too. Well Megaman blasted right through that window.

In regards to his kit, I think his side b should be different. It's way to similar to his down b. Side B should be the sonic boost, would work like phantasm. Also maybe change is Dair to Power Stomp. I have no complaints about him now other than the effort it takes to kill. But if they were to change a few moves I think the ones mentioned would be make good replacements. Sonic Boom would also work. Since it's just a slightly different sonic boost.
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_Boost
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_Boom_(move)
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Stomp

 

[Espy Rose]

Sakurai never said anything like that.

 

[ENCOREY]

Sakurai never said anything like that.

I went and checked the article I saw it in before. He actually said don't expect a trend of adding a lot of 3rd party characters. This was before Megaman was announced so I assumed the worst.

 

[Louie G.]

Any one else think that Sakurai will add wisps to Sonic's moveset if Sega agrees?
Sonic Colors and Lost World both incorporate them, and are both Nintendo exclusive titles.